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#16 More D

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I do the oil changes every 5k. That and dealer only services help with resaleablity.
I have heard too many horror stories about the Walmart grease monkeys to risk my $55k beauty.

Besides I drive just over 10k miles per year.

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#17 el diablo

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I'm about the same and always took it to bill Luke for $75. I'll have to look into Wally World. I get what ur sayin but an oil change is not rocket science. Hard to f that up. Drain refill and swap out filter. Changed it myself only once and I cost me $80 just to buy the oil and filter from checkers.

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There is essentially one ford dealer in the Tucson area so prices so no need to be competitive. The hourly labor was $130 18mo ago. I know that it is not that much for you all in the Phoenix area. Lots of competition.

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I have been perplexed with this same dilemma for nearly 4 years now and it has hindered me nearly incapable of making the decision. One of the main factors for me was the amount of things I have replaced on my 2004 1/2 ton dodge ram. Tranny, rear end, both axles and the front end on multiple occassions. Here is a quick snapshot to why I am going to purchase a 3/4 ton diesel and not another 1/2 gas. It's not all the factors I took into consideration, only a few:

 

Fuel cost / Maintenance / Longevity / Options:

I drive 19k miles each year. I pull my trailer 2k miles of those each year.

    * The fuel cost actually sides in the favor of the diesel by $83 due to the towing mileage (based off $2.60 avg gas / $2.90 avg diesel)

    * 5 oil changes throughout the year favor the gas motor by $415.

    * 1/2 ton = $11, 800 in repairs (see above for a portion of what I have replaced on my 1/2 ton)

    * 3/4 ton = $3k for a tranny. I don't believe anything else I have replaced would be needed on a heavier built truck like the 3/4 so the diesel gets the nod by $8000.

    * I don't know what I will own or want to do in the next 10 years. With a 1/2 ton, I will be limited the same as the past 10 years. "I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it"

    * Diesel costs $8k more. In 10 years, when I sell it, it will basically hold the same value ($8k) more than the gas.

 

I'm sure anyone can punch holes in my logic, but these were a few of my deciding factors. What scares me the most is where I live = no diesel mechanics. Good luck with your choice.



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I went with a ram 2500 with the new 6.4 litre Gas motor.  I basically did this because of the upfront cost of a diesel and the price of fuel over the last 10 years.  I will say that the oil change argument is not valid any longer.  On my new pickup, it requires 7 quarts of synthetic oil and costs as much as a diesel oil change.  Good thing I got 2 years of oil changes with it when I bought it.  Having said all that, I could not be happier with the motor I have, but if I were to tow frequently, I would have went diesel.



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I do the oil changes every 5k. That and dealer only services help with resaleablity.
I have heard too many horror stories about the Walmart grease monkeys to risk my $55k beauty.

Besides I drive just over 10k miles per year.

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i drive farther than that just to get to my hunting spots during the season



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i went to walmart for my oil changes forever but now i got a mechanic next to my shop that does them for me. one time i was at walmart and they overfilled a diesel with oil and the owner was bitching hard



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It sounds like know one changes their own oil any more?
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i went to walmart for my oil changes forever but now i got a mechanic next to my shop that does them for me. one time i was at walmart and they overfilled a diesel with oil and the owner was bitching hard

5% of my income comes from places like walmart "trying" to do a simple oil change. When they leave a drain plug loose, wrong filter, forget to reset a service light, don't check tire pressure, over or under fill oil... They've lost a customer for life and any friend of that customers if the friends hold any weight on their word. Not saying their all bad, heck 15% of my income is packet damage lol.

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It sounds like know one changes their own oil any more?


I mentioned earlier it's $75 to take to the dealer and get it done. I did it myself one time and cost me $80 just for the oil and filter. Why not just take it have it done. Ain't gotta worry bout disposing of the oil an all that.

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It sounds like know one changes their own oil any more?


Not when it's cheaper to have it done than it is to buy all the crap needed.
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It cost me about $60 to change the oil myself in my duramax. That is with Rotella full synthetic and a Napa gold filter.
For me, it would be a way bigger hassle to take my truck to the dealer and wait for it to be done. It literally takes me less than 15 minutes to do myself.
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#28 muledeerarea33?

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The factory filter is usually the same price or cheaper than aftermarket ones. And with the advent of synthetic oil and studying the aftermath of synthetic and conventional I don't see why anyone would run standard oil anymore?

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We bought a new F250 with a 6.7 in '13 with the plan to get a 34-40ft 5th wheel. Plans have changed and the 5th wheel is a no go so now the truck has to go.
I absolutely love this truck, it is my dream truck but if you are not using them for what they were really designed for it is not a smart use of it. Oil changes are $115 every 5k and every third one requires the fuel filters too which is a $300+ service total.

Mileage is a wash but it costs more for diesel as mentioned before.

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Wal-Mart, $56 for an oil change. (Yes, diesel)
1 case of Delo 400 at costco 39.99 on sale 37.99. I can do 1 and half oil changes with a case of oil. One fleetgurad oil filter from Inland Kentworh 16.99. An empty "Homer Depot" 5 gallon bucket slides right under my oil pan. No jack needed. Under 40$ I get it done in under 20 minutes.
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I love my diesel. I love it I can haul a 12,000 lb trailer up hill on the beeline or the I-17 going 65 mph while the gas truck is going in the slow lane going 35 mph. But if this is all about the mighty $ then your better off with the gas.




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