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Edge, that game they have on is not Football. Tampa and Cleveland. Not watching..lol...............BOB!

You guys are hilarious, thanks.

I'd like to watch what catfish is watching but no premium, just Bucks N Brown, sad.

Get a fire stick with kodi, you can watch it all. Free. It's like road hunting the NFL.

Kodi is a wonderful thing. Lol

 

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Talking to a couple of wardens; One of them said Road hunting is not illegal, shooting from the road is illegal. The other said if your bow is uncased I will write you a ticket. I said, write the ticket and I will see you in court and lets see who wins. No tickets were written.

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If you are a hunter you are always looking for game. You may be glassing, walking or driving. Dont shoot from the road, across the road or from the vehicle and I think your safe.

Driving the roads in AZ is so common mainly due to the fact there are so many roads. Spotting game from the road and road hunting seem to be a confusing point as people drive then stalk, people drive then shoot and people never leave their vehicle and never shoot. Ethics is a value we all have, the level of those ethics differs as much as our favorite food.

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Hunted archery elk in 11m few years back, after opener it was as if the sides of road & forest had quicksand so everybody just stayed in side by sides and cruised roads with bows in hand. Honestly it was as if a joke had been orchestrated on me and everybody was laughing at me while I sunk in the hiking Hunter quicksand. I have never seen so many roadhunters at once/same place/same day.. Felt like I should have met them all I saw them go by so many times. I guess maybe they were not hunting they might have been trolling?

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Hunted archery elk in 11m few years back, after opener it was as if the sides of road & forest had quicksand so everybody just stayed in side by sides and cruised roads with bows in hand. Honestly it was as if a joke had been orchestrated on me and everybody was laughing at me while I sunk in the hiking Hunter quicksand. I have never seen so many roadhunters at once/same place/same day.. Felt like I should have met them all I saw them go by so many times. I guess maybe they were not hunting they might have been trolling?

I joined a friend who drew a bull tag in 11m years ago and it was the worst decision I ever made. Every person I ran into did exactly what you stated. Hopping out of their vehicles and sprinting towards elk with their bows in hands. Unreal.

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There is nothing wrong with glassing from the road. Regulations say no shooting from or across a roadway. No where does it say no glassing from a roadway.

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A few years ago, had a friend that glassed some far off pigs from the road, then drove to put himself in a stalking position. G&F was watching and gave him a ticket for road hunting. He paid the fine instead of going to court so his wife wouldn't find out.

Can't imagine anyone on an antelope hunt does it any other way.

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Most of the roads I go on almost require driving less than 10mph. I'm off the main (good) dirt roads before daylight anyway and can't see in the dark. If I see a deer while driving a bad road I'm gonna pull off and figure it out. It's a huge grey area if your hunting from road or trying not to tear up your truck. Also what's considered a road is another grey area.

I have hunted a lot in unit 33. You are correct in your description of the roads.

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I have not read all the posts but I can tell you when my best friend and I, who is also my hunting partner are too old to hump the hills, we will become road hunters. We will not break any laws but that is how we will hunt. Probably will not even care if we get anything either because we are almost to that point now. I imagine we will mostly drive around, talk about the good ol' days and drink a thermos of coffee. I don't really care what others think because life is too short to worry about things as trivial as this. Too each their own, I say.

 

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Talking to a couple of wardens; One of them said Road hunting is not illegal, shooting from the road is illegal. The other said if your bow is uncased I will write you a ticket. I said, write the ticket and I will see you in court and lets see who wins. No tickets were written.

 

In the early 80's I bought my first compound bow and would practice in the backyard and eventually started to shoot at longer distances out at the familys cotton farm and eventually bought sites too which helped past 40 yards. Lucky me drew an elk tag and called G&F (no internet back then) and asked them if I could talk to the warden for the area. We he was in the field so I left my number and go a call back a few days later after dinner. I told him where I was going to camp and he asked me what my strategy was going to be. I told him I would hunt on foot from camp and leave camp before light and listen for bugles, then stalk them and try that in the morning then later come back to camp if I was unsuccessful and maybe drive to a different area. We talked some more about tactics and gear then he asked me where my bow would be while I was driving. I told him it would be in the bed of my truck which had a camper shell on it. He said that would be ok as long as it was cased. Problem was I was only making about $7.50 an hour and couldn't afford a case yet. I told him I didn't own one and he said if he stopped me and the bow wasn't cased he would cite me for road hunting. Well I disagreed with him on that and said what about having a gun in the window rack, would he consider that road hunting too? Anyway the bow would be in the camper, he didn't budge on his stance. Well I still couldn't afford a bow case so I made one out of an old dufflebag and went hunting. I never did run into him.

12B probably had the most road hunters I ever saw. My son and I hunted it for three days and we never saw another hunter on foot and we hiked quite a bit each day. Everyone we saw were driving around. We saw a group of deer about 500 yards away across a field on the edge of some trees. We backtracked a bit and found a draw that let us make it across the field out of their sight. When we got close the were gone so we went into the strip of trees and popped out the other side to an equally big field. The was a draw so I told my son that they were probably in there and had him go solo in that direction. It was just after sunrise and as he went down the hill I saw the headlights of a truck slowly come around a bend about 500 yards away headed in our direction. My son bumped the deer and they ran out into the open about 50 yards in from of them. The truck was now about 250 yards close and when they saw the deer they stopped and the drives and passenger jumped out with their rifles. My son took a shot but missed and the passenger who had his rifle shouldered was flagged off by the driver. Sure go a little hairy there for a second but it worked out even though he didn't get another chance at a shot.

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Unless you are shooting from the truck it's not road hunting. Any rabbit ranger that gave you a ticket for driving to a location getting out and walking somewhere to shoot an animal in season that you have a tag for and is of legal harvest requirements and is up to your personal requirements and is a safe and ethical range and position, should be punched right in the c@$k holster!!!

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I have been checked while glassing from the highway. Actually showed the ranger what I was looking at. He checked my tag and said good luck hope you have a good hunt. It all depends on which warden you get and if he is having a bad day. I will continue to do what I have done for years. Some of the best bucks I have seen were glassing from the highway.

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Have been glassing off side of road on various occasions and have been visited by the G&F representative. Interaction with rep has usually been cordial. Basic questions--are you hunting? Can I see your license and tag? Good luck and be safe is what i have been told.

Have also had them ask to assist on a junior hunt for the kid I had with me--all while sitting off the main road glassing. All went well good encounter with rep .

 

This is what I would term road hunting.

Barreling down forest road--skidding to a halt and bailing out of the truck, shooting from middle of road at Elk. Pulling off road to go and get it. Game and Fish guy pulls up and parks his vehicle in road on top of scope covers and shell casings.

Waits patiently for said individuals to get Elk loaded and proceeds to have them load Elk in his truck and then cites them .

The local food bank benefitted from this.

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A few years ago, had a friend that glassed some far off pigs from the road, then drove to put himself in a stalking position. G&F was watching and gave him a ticket for road hunting. He paid the fine instead of going to court so his wife wouldn't find out.

Can't imagine anyone on an antelope hunt does it any other way.

In this situation, I would politely ask the warden to give me the Arizona Revised Statute violated, otherwise he's wasting your time. For convenience, I carry the ARS in a PDF file on my phone and copy of the hunting regs in my truck and bags.

Neither is there a law stating your bow must be in a case while traveling.

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A few years ago, had a friend that glassed some far off pigs from the road, then drove to put himself in a stalking position. G&F was watching and gave him a ticket for road hunting. He paid the fine instead of going to court so his wife wouldn't find out.

Can't imagine anyone on an antelope hunt does it any other way.

In this situation, I would politely ask the warden to give me the Arizona Revised Statute violated, otherwise he's wasting your time. For convenience, I carry the ARS in a PDF file on my phone and copy of the hunting regs in my truck and bags.

Neither is there a law stating your bow must be in a case while traveling.

 

Good advice.

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