metau Report post Posted January 10, 2018 A young man I know has shown great interest in hunting but has had some issues passing the online portion of the hunter ed on his own and has become a bit discouraged. He does qualify under AZ's education laws as a special education student and has his IEP. I feel that his major issue with passing the online tests is not his understanding of the subject matter, but of a result of his lack of reading comprehension. Does anyone know if it would be possible/legal for me to assist him with explaining the words he has issues with both for the online potion and the test at the field day? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 That's likely a question best suited for AZGFD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roosevelt Mark Report post Posted January 10, 2018 Dude, help him with it. It's all about learning the material not just passing the test. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaton Report post Posted January 10, 2018 I say help him. Call azgfd and explain to them the situation. They should be perfectly ok with it. If not they may offer help for him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couesdeer Report post Posted January 10, 2018 Good advice given here already. I sat through the field day and test for both of my children. At each session there were one or two students who needed the test read to them and the adult accompanying that child was allowed to do such. In fact, I remember the instructor calling students up to go over questions that students missed to ensure that each kid passed at one of the sessions. I am an elementary special education teacher and work kids like this every day. Roosevelt Mark is spot on. It is amazing how much knowledge a kid can demonstrate when given alternatives to pen and paper! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost85 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 I bet that a big percentage of kids that take the online portion get a lot of help from their parents. Theyre going to learn their ethics, laws, sportsmanship and safety from being in the field with an adult anyways, not a computer screen. Give the kid some coaching and get him through the class and out in the field where you can teach him the laws of the land. No need to get G&F involved. Dont want to ruin a potential sportsman and conservationist because he doesnt computer well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metau Report post Posted January 10, 2018 I had already contacted the dept, and have helped teach him the skills, both field craft and how to research the regs to find answers to questions. Heard back from the dept a few minutes ago, and I can help him understand the content at the field day test. While I agree with everything you all have posted, my concern was helping him understand the computer part, but then not being able to help him on the field day. If he got to that point and failed, it would highly discourage him from every trying again. Apparently there is a box you check when registering for the field day that asks if there is any special assistance that is required. At that point you simply coordinate with the instructor once the filed day starts. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oz31p Report post Posted January 10, 2018 My daughter did the online/field day at 9 years olds. She a poor reader so I helped her through the reading but she answered the questions. At the field day a staffer read the entire test to her. It’s not he state bar exam, it’s more important to know the information than completing it on your own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IA Born Report post Posted January 10, 2018 Since AGFD uses Federal dollars for many things, including funding the HE program, they are required, by Federal law to make reasonable accommodations to help students like you have described. Taking the legal requirements out of the picture, as an instructor, we work with kids like you describe all the time to help them get where they need to be. And, yes, there is a box to check to let us know that there are special requirements. You can help him with the online portion and then help him with the field day portion to make sure he understands. All of the instructors I know and work with across the state are great at making the necessary accommodations. If you have any questions, let me know. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metau Report post Posted January 11, 2018 Took the test with him last night. Had to talk through about 1/3 of the questions with him. He missed 3 total, and is now scheduled for class on Sunday. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roosevelt Mark Report post Posted January 11, 2018 Good to hear. It will be a nice day at the range on Sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaton Report post Posted January 11, 2018 Good job! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IA Born Report post Posted January 11, 2018 Took the test with him last night. Had to talk through about 1/3 of the questions with him. He missed 3 total, and is now scheduled for class on Sunday. That's awesome! Remember there is a 50-question multiple choice final exam. If you are reading it to him, I'm guessing he'll do fine. We're trying to work on getting the wording of several questions changed to be more user-friendly. I've seen several kids get test anxiety or not read the questions well and not pass the test. As soon as we read the questions they missed to them, they nail it on the first try. Please keep us posted on how he does this weekend. You're reminding me why I do what I do, especially when I feel life telling me I have too many irons in the fire. GOOD LUCK!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
