Sportsmans Input Sought by ConserveandProtectAZ.org-Unit wide Raffle and Auction Tags

[Nefarious Red]

Yes to what, good enough or actually doing something?

[trphyhntr]

Yes to what, good enough or actually doing something?

Good enough

[Nefarious Red]

 

Yes to what, good enough or actually doing something?

Good enough

well that's unfortunate, because that's what HSUS relied upon. But I can admit when I'm wrong, my first impression of you was that you were smart enough to come up with some solid ideas to move this forward, and at least smarter than the antis. Perhaps I was wrong.

[krp]

The tactic of the proponents of the tag sale are using the same one from 2012... disregard the real works of the G&F and the average sportsman, try to create a wedge between them, when in reality we are the majority partners.

 

As a stakeholder in the G&F and supporter with my money I refuse to fall for this BS same as last time.

 

Kent

[trphyhntr]

I'm still lost on the very basics of this whole convo.

[Nefarious Red]

I'm still lost on the very basics of this whole convo.

lets start with the basics. Do you believe we need a comprehensive strategy to defeat groups like HSUS?

[idgaf]

I'm still lost on the very basics of this whole convo.

this like trying to get caught up mid season of walking dead or lost or name your favorite soap opera.

 

Basics from what I understand.

 

There are two sides to CAPAZ, one is the educational side that wants the tags or some sort of funding to educate the 70% of Arizonans that do not have an opinion on hunting. Their suggestion was permits because, unless somebody comes up with another idea, that is the easiest way to create money for education.

 

The other side is the 501C side that wants to take on the political fight with the HSUS. (guys that want to stop hunting) Because the two are closely (essentially the same people) related but separate there are concerns that the 501c side (private donors that can stay in the shadows) will be funded by the rich guys that want to hunt every year with the tags generated from the education side.

 

Personally I would like to see a death match of the hunting extremist and the HSUS extremist and a meteor falls from the sky and squashes them all.

[Nefarious Red]

 

I'm still lost on the very basics of this whole convo.

 

this like trying to get caught up mid season of walking dead or lost or name your favorite soap opera.

 

Basics from what I understand.

 

There are two sides to CAPAZ, one is the educational side that wants the tags or some sort of funding to educate the 70% of Arizonans that do not have an opinion on hunting. Their suggestion was permits because, unless somebody comes up with another idea, that is the easiest way to create money for education.

 

The other side is the 501C side that wants to take on the political fight with the HSUS. (guys that want to stop hunting) Because the two are closely related but separate there are concerns that the 501c side (private donors that can stay in the shadows) will be funded by the rich guys that want to hunt every year with the tags generated from the education side.

 

Personally I would like to see a death match of the hunting extremist and the HSUS extremist and meteor falls from the sky and squashes them all.

idgaf, your first paragraph sums it up perfectly, especially "unless someone comes up with a better idea". I agree completely. So let's put our heads together and come up with a better idea.

 

I also agree with your last paragraph, even though I run the risk of getting killed by a meteor.

[AZkiller]

 

 

 

 

Whats with all the hate against guys with the ability to buy auction tags?

 

In times like this all hunters should be working together to come up with a win win solution for both sides and not working against each other.

It's not hate for the guys that can afford the tags. I have yet to work for a poor person. It's the people around them that want some of what they have that are usually the issue.

Ooooohh so now if you know a rich person that hunts you're a problem. Got it.

No you don't. If you are trying to get your cut and change the game from said rich person, and for said rich person hunting, than you are the problem. AZKILLER are you the problem?

Nope

[Ohthatguy]

SRT radio segment from this morning. 4/22/18

 

You can scroll down to find the two files from today with Don, JK and Jim Unmacht. Both hours have content related to CAPAZ. I can't find a way to post the link directly.

 

It begins about 10:50 into the 1st segment, which is the 2nd file.

 

http://www.1580thefanatic.com/shake-rattle-troll-don-mcdowell/

[40-year-AZ-hunter]

SRT radio segment from this morning. 4/22/18

 

You can scroll down to find the two files from today with Don, JK and Jim Unmacht. Both hours have content related to CAPAZ. I can't find a way to post the link directly.

 

It begins about 10:50 into the 1st segment, which is the 2nd file.

 

http://www.1580thefanatic.com/shake-rattle-troll-don-mcdowell/

 

The distain for this website and it's "keyboard killers" just drips from those folks on that radio show.

[Delw]

 

Nefarious red, do you think that you decide what is right or wrong? You are a legend in your own mind.

naw, the hundreds i have signed on, as well as several heads of large hunting pages, groups, blogs, youtube channels, etc. that are ready to back any proposals CAPAZ has might decide, though. See ThomC, when you actually get out and do things, people take notice.

 

 

thats the scarey part they are stupid enough to "back any proposals CAPAZ has might decide," key word being any

Right out of the obamacare playbook. you sign it then read it later.

 

your turning into a con artist just liek the rest of Pete and his Merry Men

[Delw]

 

SRT radio segment from this morning. 4/22/18

 

You can scroll down to find the two files from today with Don, JK and Jim Unmacht. Both hours have content related to CAPAZ. I can't find a way to post the link directly.

 

It begins about 10:50 into the 1st segment, which is the 2nd file.

 

http://www.1580thefanatic.com/shake-rattle-troll-don-mcdowell/

 

The distain for this website and it's "keyboard killers" just drips from those folks on that radio show.

 

anyone who listens Don Mcdowell is a fool. he lost his credibility in the 2000's when he beat the crap out of his wife and oput her in ER on her death bed.

[Delw]

I'm still lost on the very basics of this whole convo.

Come on TH get with the program, Red it explained it many times and its on this thread. he said so himself.

[Ohthatguy]

 

SRT radio segment from this morning. 4/22/18

 

You can scroll down to find the two files from today with Don, JK and Jim Unmacht. Both hours have content related to CAPAZ. I can't find a way to post the link directly.

 

It begins about 10:50 into the 1st segment, which is the 2nd file.

 

http://www.1580thefanatic.com/shake-rattle-troll-don-mcdowell/

 

The distain for this website and it's "keyboard killers" just drips from those folks on that radio show.

 

If you were a newbie and read the last 10-30 pages of this thread, what opinion do you think they would form about it?

 

I was hoping the links would shed some light on the issue related to this thread because you can actually hear from them directly and not mis-quoted rumors from this guy I know said that he said that she said she heard....

 

Not defending anyone here or there but I can imagine how I would feel if I spent a lot of time helping/fighting for a cause only to get bashed for it..