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price has been lowered.

I may see you up there this summer. My son also drew a unit 9 tag in the random draw.

For sale 14" Satin Thompson Contender with matching scopes. Two calibers .223 & 7mm TCU (which is a necked up .223 that shoots a 7mm bullet). Comes with hammer extension, shoulder holster and soft case.. .223 barrel has a Simmons 2X6 scope and the 7mm TCU has a 4X simmons scope. Also included is 22 loaded rounds of 7mm TCU and 44 casings. Excellent condition. $1,050 OBO would consider Ruger or S&W .357 double action with 4" or 5" barrel as partial trade. John 623-680-4458 North Peoria 83rd & Happy Valley rd area

Seems like it may be a programming error. People who put a youth only hunt and a general hunt as 1st or 2nd choice it appears are charged the higher $135 fee even if they drew the youth hunt. I wonder if the people who are being charged for the $50 are only applying for youth hunts 1st & 2nd choice? If my assumption is correct, this is a very easy programming fix by just checking the hunt numbers and then charging the fee based on that. This entire draw cycle smells to high heaven. It is becoming pretty obvious that whatever they planned to do at the beginning did not work and then they had to quickly go in and re-enter information and write some new code to get this draw completed. I never like to see someone lose their job but some heads need to roll after this debacle.

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If it is a youth only hunt it is $50 because only 10-17 year old hunters can apply & hunt. If a 10-17 year old applies for a hunt that 18 year and older hunters can apply for then they pay the full price. This is the way it has always been for as long as I can remember. Unless I am reading the OP incorrectly, I do not see any error on G&F part.

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I was wondering that myself. You have 27 grand kids or you were a grandpa at 27? Country singer Loretta Lynn was a Grandma at 28, I believe. sorry to sidetrack OP. Carry on

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The gun is sold pending funds. The buyer is supposed to pick up this afternoon. I will update afterwards.

You can also call your financial institution and ask if you have any pending charges. In normal years I would say if you don't have a charge by now it is 99% sure you did not draw. This is not a normal year so who knows for sure?

Because when you make the purchases you listed, you are getting something of value in return. All the things you listed have real value after they are purchased even though they may not be used immediately. When you are applying for a hunt all you are buying is a chance to get something. The way the laws are now, if game and fish charged everyone up front then they would have to give everyone who applied a tag.

This law is bigger than G&F. If the law is changed it will have an affect on many other things not even related to G&F. Surprisingly, not all things in life revolve around hunting in Arizona. I'm still trying to get that through my thick skull. If people want the law changed then start writing your elected representatives and tell them. I promise there will people contacting them and pushing back and it has nothing to do with hunting or game and fish. The law is in place for a reason. I appreciate HuntHike61 for his due diligence and finding the law. Now we just have to save it so every time someone brings this up we can copy and paste.

To each their own. I believe it is important to support the things that are important to you in all aspects of life. For me, wildlife is important and so I belong to multiple organizations and I also make donations to G&F and many of the water hauling programs in place. Just because I don't see first hand where my money is going doesn't mean it's not going to where I intended it to go. I do think all these organizations along with G&F could do a better job of detailing where the money is being spent. In the mean time, I will continue to support AZ's wildlife.

There may be a silver lining if the latest rumor is correct and the draw has taken place but they are having problems interfacing with the card info. I'm guessing G&F already knows who the lucky recipients are and the tags are in the process of being printed. The few poor souls who get cards rejected, the dept can easily print a new tag for the next in line. In the grand scheme of things getting a tag by April 2nd or August 2nd really makes no difference. It only matter because that is is when they say they will have them sent out. At this point nobody really knows anything for sure and everything is left to speculation. my 2 cents

You have to look on the bright side. We have been getting much needed moisture the last month or so and might get more next week. Things are looking up all the time.

My daughter is finishing up her 3rd year of dental school at Midwestern University on 59th ave & 101 in north Glendale. I know they take a lot of people who do not have insurance and get work done at a discounted rate. State of the art facilities.

I'm no bear expert but I have read they like fresh young green grasses in the spring. Look for green up.

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Not what I wanted but better than a total ban.

thanks Dave, I wasn't that old when we went.