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  1. In February I'll be heading for unit 23. It will be my first time to the unit and my first try at Javelina hunting. If anyone is willing to offer advice on unit 23 or Javelina in general, I'd really appreciate it. Feel free to PM me if that's better. I've started research and was lucky enough to glass up my first herd of Javi's on my recent first Coues hunt in 31.

    Thanks in advance, Bob E.

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  2. Looks like a Remington 700 in a classic stock, what caliber? Nice job getting your deer!

    Thanks! It's a .300 RUM. I actually have almost all Win. Model 70's, but I won this at an Oregon Hunters Association banquet and thought I'd give it a try a few years back. I've ended up shooting quite a few critters with it since then. It is a really nice shooting gun. It has a longer barrel than I like, but probably needs it to utilize all that powder. I really like my model 70's, as I grew up with that style safety and most of mine have 22 inch barrels.


  3. Thought I'd post a couple pics and a write up on my first trip to AZ to hunt. First thing I'd like to do is thank the folks that responded to my post, asking for advice. When I am setting foot in a state that I've never hunted, for a species that I've never laid eyes on, and going in solo to top it off; every bit of knowledge folks are willing to share is really appreciated. Although it didn't end up working out due to timing of my trip and fairly quick success, I even had some offers to go out and help me glass! How cool is that? Now for a quick run down on the trip.

    I left Oregon a day and a half late due to digging out from a snow storm that hit us with 18" of snow. We were expecting another 8" in a couple days so, I made sure wood was on the porch and everything was clear and prepped for my wife. After fighting the lights on the trailer and bad gas in my on/off road bike I made the tactical decision just to leave both of them at home. I never use them much, so I was kind of relieved not to have one more thing to worry about anyway. I crammed my rig full of everything I could think of and then took off in my old Chevy. I had to pull over and sleep a few hours a couple times and going was slow through some white out conditions in NV, but the morning of the second day I was driving into my unit as it was getting light; I felt like a kid at Christmas! After driving around some of the area and getting a feel for the terrain, I found a nice spot to set up camp. It was noon by then so I spent the rest of the day going to a couple vantage points close to areas at the top of my research list. By the time evening hit I hadn't seen a deer, but I had a plan of where I would hike in first thing in the morning. I was excited and optimistic, but I have to admit I was a little nervous, because I still had never even seen a Coues deer!

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    The next morning was rainy and windy, but being from OR I wasn't gonna let that slow me down :).

    I eased my way in and slowly worked my way across a a big bowl headed for a steep hogs-back that led up to a main ridge that was about a mile in. My plan was to work this ridge for the day. I could cover a lot of ground, with a lot of glassing spots to see down and across all the fingers.

    Getting to the hogs-back that was steep, but fairly open turned out to take quite awhile. The flat leading to it wasn't all that flat and I was getting a quick lesson in the plant life of AZ :D.

    I took my time as I headed up the hogs-back, stopping to glass as I topped each bench. As I topped out a bench about 2/3 of the way up and set down to rest and glass. There it was; finally my first Coues deer! A forked horn buck and it was even in range at a little over 300 yards. As I watched and took pics, eventually I picked another little spike buck out of the brush. I was feeling a lot better all of the sudden. My eyes were tuned in to what to look for, now I was ready! As I worked my way up and glassed I started picking out deer more readily. By the time I was to the other side of the ridge and started glassing the fingers and bowls, I had seen a total of 8 deer counting the two little bucks.

    As I sat and ate lunch and glassed, I caught movement on the opposite finger about 400 yards out. By the time I got glass on the spot, 2 deer slipped over the ridge. I was sure I'd seen a good mainframe on both deer, but it happened so fast, I was second guessing myself.

    I decided that I'd make a run for the ridge and try to get all the way to the other end, where I would be positioned to look back across a big bowl, looking back towards the finger they crossed. It was a long shot, but figured they might hold up in this canyon; or I might cut them off before they made it over the finger I'd be on. It was all laid out within 400 yards, so if I saw them I would hopefully get a shot.

    As I sat and glassed, the wind blew back into the thick brushy bowl. I thought maybe they would get my wind and head back the other way if they hadn't beat me across the finger I was on. About the time I was ready to write these deer off and head to another glassing location, I spotted the two bucks headed back for the top of the finger they had originally crossed. One quick look and I knew that I'd be happy with the bigger of the two bucks. I quickly set the bi-pod out to full height and settled in.

    I'd be lucky to get one shot, if he stopped or hesitated before he topped the bench. As, I stayed locked on him, he weaved in and out of the thick brush. If he didn't stop I'd be out of luck, I knew he'd be pushing 400 yards(386 as ranged exactly later). The first buck went over and disappeared without stoppingand I thought I was done for. As the buck I was locked on to reached the little bench he was going to cross, he hesitated and I was already squeezing. At the shot he disappeared. The shot felt and sounded good, but as I worked my way up to the ridge and over to the finger that he was on, I felt that pit in my stomach that I get until I'm sure. I said a little prayer for a quick recovery, as I glassed down the finger. I couldn't see anything promising, but when I headed down to look for the deer or blood, a crow flew in and hovered over where I'd last seen the buck. I was now more sure than ever. After a quick finishing shot, I thanked God for answering my prayers, then sat down and admired my first Coues buck, a nice little 3pt. I was amazed how little he actually was, as up until now I hadn't seen a deer closer than a couple hundred yards. I could immediately see why people are so hooked on these tiny little guys; they are amazing!

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    I took pics. caped, skinned and hung him in a tree. I had just enough time to pack a quarter, head and his cape out before dark.

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    After a crazy wind, rain and snow filled night, I hiked back in with my frame pack and carried the other 3/4s out. I packed bones and all as I had a lot of time and I find if that's a reasonable option, I can get a lot more net meat %. That afternoon I was able to spot a herd of Javelina (another first :)) and was lucky enough to get to visit with some great folks in town, as well as, talk with another out of state hunter and his guide. All very nice folks!

    I had a perfect 22 degree night for hanging meat in camp and the next morning I packed up bright and early and started the 23 hour drive back to OR.

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    I am stoked to get to come back to AZ in February to hunt Javelina in unit 23, which will be another great first adventure. I am blessed to get to live out a lot of the hunts I've dreamed about most of my life with the support of my wonderful wife and family!

    Sorry for the long winded write up, but it's hard to contain the excitement that for me, comes out with replaying and sharing the story with some detail and pics!

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  4. Thanks Hatchet Jack:

    I have good boots and still have pretty strong legs :) . I could use a little better glass, but my mid range Leupolds will have to do. I will have my brothers' Leupold spotter also. It has served me well in AK for sheep and goat, so I'm hoping it will work alright for Coues.I'll need to address the tripod situation I think, as ours is pretty cheap. Exciting to hear about seeing bucks already!

     

    Mulepackhunter:

    The dates are 12/9-12/31. What a generous offer. That brings up a good question. Is the first of the season best or would the tail end be better? I will probably have about 2 weeks maximum of vacation time left by the time I'm done with all my other fall hunting.


  5. I drew a 31 late Coues tag and will finally get a chance to actually hunt in AZ. I thought I would hunt Javelina first, but beat the odds and drew the deer tag. I'm really excited to get my boots on the ground and try to connect with my first Coues. If any one is willing to offer some information on this unit or share some of their knowledge on hunting Coues in AZ it would be really appreciated. I have hunted most of the west and AK, but this will be a great new adventure. Feel free to PM me if that is a better way to go.I have been reading everything I can find on 31 and Coues in general, but figured this forum would have some of the most experienced Coues hunters around. Any info or experience that folks are willing to contribute is very, very much appreciated. I am from OR and have a lot of experience with all species here, so if you have interest in hunting in OR don't hesitate to ask. Thanks in advance for any advice that you are willing to share.

    Thanks, Bob E.

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  6. The only fall hunts in 2016 other than the youth you mentioned are OTC tags for the mountain (low density) units.

     

    The best units are the ones you are familiar with or have time to scout. Javelina are funny creatures in the way they can be here and gone, some people can find them every time they look and some people have more trouble with them than coues deer.

     

    Here are last year's 2015 regs with hunt numbers.

    https://repository.asu.edu/attachments/140974/content/2015%20springregs.pdf

    Here is the bonus point report for the general 1-2 pass in 2015.

    https://www.azgfd.com/PortalImages/files/hunting/draw/bonusPts/12_2014/2015%20Spring%20-%20Bonus%20Point%20Report%20-%201-2%20Pass%20by%20Hunt%20Number.pdf

     

    You can get 2 points/year.

    My archery javelina hunt of choice takes 4 points to draw in the bonus pass. I really like having this tag in my pocket as it coincides with archery deer, so I buy the fall point, put in for the spring draw/point, have a hunters education point and a loyalty point to total 4 points and guarantee the draw bonus pass.

    Thanks, that makes things a lot clearer. I really appreciate the help


  7. Probably a simple question to a resident (and probably most non-residents :) ), but is there fall hunts for Javelina besides the youth hunts and can you get 2pts per year for this species? How many points are needed to draw the best areas? Is there a good source of information on the best units, or am I over thinking it? Thanks in advance, it's easy to find info on the deer, elk, antelope and sheep units and draws, but I haven't found much detailed info on javelina.


  8. Not in az we get 1 , if there still talking, wish they would start our season a month earlier, but with the games its not about success its about the Benjamin's...

    Just added the third general Tom in OR this year. Turkey hunting is one of the real bright spots here!


  9. Congrats! How hard is it to draw spring black bear tags in Oregon?

    Some are harder than others of course, but there is a lot of opportunities to draw with 0-3 points. The units I hunt can be drawn fairly easy for sure. I can recommend some pretty decent spots if you'd like.


  10. Well another year slipped by without me getting to hunt AZ, hopefully I'll get lucky in 2016. I did grab a javelina point so I should at least get to try that soon, I hope. I thought I'd share some of my out of state and home state of OR success pics.

    OR Fall Black Bear

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    UT MZ Elk

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    OR Black Tail

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    MT Mule Deer

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    I was lucky enough to get a spring bear and two spring turkeys in OR this year also. I'm thankful for another great year hunting with family and friends. Can't wait for the chance at hunting AZ. Thanks to all the folks on here who have shared there knowledge of hunting AZ with me so far. It is really appreciated.

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  11. We eat at least one bear a year, sometimes two. I cut my meat myself and bone it out. I separate all muscle groups and remove all the fat and connecting tissue so I'm left with just lean meat. When bear is cut this way, in my experience it has never been greasy (spring or fall). It makes great roast in the crock pot, ground meat for sauces, tacos and chili, but my favorite is to make breakfast sausage for burritos and patties. Here again I do not add any kind of fat, just seasoning. ( I am going to try adding a package of pepper bacon ends and pieces to my next 15# batch just for fun though!) I prefer breakfast style sausage over summer sausage and pepperoni due to the fact that I control the cooking temp and it's easily made at home.

    I've heard of people using the bear fat, but I prefer just the lean meat, as that's how I cut the rest of my game meat. It seems to me that most of the taste influence from an animals diet is carried in the fat and the lean meat is much more mild and consistent when trimmed this way. ( Just my preference though!) A side benefit being that it's great tasting protein without extra fat.

    I've won over many a skeptic with the bear meat I've cooked and served.

    Besides great meat you get another critter to hunt and in some cases twice, both spring and fall! Have a blast it's addictive! Good luck


  12. Dang................

     

     

    Javelina for mntn goat wanna trade??

    I'm lucky to have relatives in AK, that allows me to afford trips like Sheep and Goat (No guide required/Next of kin). With out them being willing to tag along with me it wouldn't happen!

     

    I feel so un-accomplished now.

     

    Awesome pics, congrats!

    Thanks, It was a fun year!

     

    Great looking animals. Thanks for sharing.

    Thanks, I love seeing all the AZ critters on here, it's cool that people share their pics!

     

    Thanks for sharing.

    Wasn't sure whether to put them on here, but I don't have any AZ pics to show :)

     

    Awesome year and I hate u:) Congrats!!!

    Ha, Thanks, I really hope to have a pic of some AZ critters soon. All new to me though!

     

    Awesome hunting successes there! Congratulations on your endeavors, hopefully you'll get to Arizona and expand your photo album!

    Thanks, hope I draw soon!

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