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  1. 23 hours ago, GoldToyBox said:

    With 19pts or 17pts the same units were available (per Toprut & Gohunt).  Only exception was Unit 3 early archery which dropped to less than 30% chance.  Allows me to hunt with my buddy (hopefully).  There were some other hunts but they conflict with scheduled huntin or fishin trips in other states.

    Wishing everyone a great season filled with limited entry tags!

    There is only two NR tags for bonus pass so to draw 22 u will need the most points of all NR in the draw because u have to draw the first tag in order to get both of them


  2. The harvest reports are even due till the 7th or 8th. There is no way the draw will be done before that so don’t believe any of this mess w carcass tag showing etc. this only has to do w you choosing an e tag vs a carcass tag. 

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  3. On 3/27/2019 at 11:06 AM, Tc95 said:

    Hello, 

    I am a brand new hunter here in Arizona and have hunted deer just once this last year. I applied for a leftover elk tag this year and was drawn for Units 15A, 15B and 18A. So far the research I have done has suggested that I should stick to 18A. I will have over a month between November 8th and December 12th to hunt. I plan on spending one or two 4 days stretches out there hunting and scouting the unit for a couple weekend trips before I head out there. Does anyone have any tips for hunting this unit? I know that it will be a very challenging hunt especially given that I am an inexperienced hunter. My plan so far is to start out on the northern part of the unit near or on the BLM land and spend a couple days hunting that area. I plan on doing my best to get away from the roads and other hunters and am comfortable hiking fairly long distances. Please let me know if you guys any suggestions and I welcome any help you can provide. I don’t expect anyone’s honey hole just some tips if someone is willing to help me out. 

    Thank you guys! 

    Sent u a pm


  4. 13 hours ago, Explorer said:

    Get an otc archery deer tag and go have some fun scouting and hunting during the early season. Boots on the ground beat fingers on the keyboard.

    Well unfortunately I live in Alabama. So all my elk hunts I have to be researched and planned from the keyboard and phone conversations. But I do agree. I’d love to have a otc deer tag early season and scout/hunt. That would be a blast 


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    U should be able to camp on any of the BLM inside that unit.

    While true remember that if you choose to camp on State Land you have to have permission from the lands lesee (usually this would be the rancher leasing the land for his cattle).
    yea I knew that about the state land, but I think Id focus on the BlM and pack in and stay. The two areas in that unit to hunt seem to be Lunero peak(state) and the BlM to the south. But Ive seen a lot of ppl hunt the open flats too

  6. Shoot Blackhorn 209 powder and pick up a bunch of charge tubes you can preload. It is almost as easy as pellets and shoots allot cleaner.

     

    so Ive only shot pellets but this yr Im gonna try BH. So literally do u just fill the tubes up to the volume measure on the side that u r gonna shoot and your good? I keep reading the whole u gotta weigh your charge vs the volume method? But I dont know really? Im not shooting past 150 yds

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    I'm curious to know what odds report applications you are using? I subscribe www.hunterstrailhead.com and I get different numbers. For example, I get odds of 15.2% for a resident with 8 points applying for unit 7W early archery. 9 of the 35 tags available in the 20% pass went to NR's so that really left 26 available for residents. The website now separates resident draw odds from NR odds. They just started this and it is kind of interesting because you see some NR's are blowing big time bonus points on what I would consider middle of the road type units. In virtually every unit I look at odds for NR's are much different than residents. Looks like lots of NR's have decided to bail on holding out for a "primo" unit since they went to 5&5 rule is my guess. No matter....... interesting stuff to look at as you can see patterns and make better informed decisions when applying.

     

    I'm guessing unit 7w odds will be substantially different this year as it is the only early archery that starts a week later due to early muzzy the week before. I think 10 points is a minimum to get in on the 20% pass for residents this year.

     

    Good luck in the draw to all that apply.

    I'm using toprut.com. I'm not claiming these to be exact but you can read about how they do the odds and it's a pretty good system. I've compared them to gohunt odds and they are generally within 2-3%. I think the az draw is so confusing no-one really knows exact odds. But either way most of them get the part right where you know you'll be guaranteed.
    . Toprut odds are good!

  8. Id say do 23. U have a realistic chance of drawing with just a point. Ive thought about it myself. The success rates are low but bulls are killed every year. Yes its gonna be tough but doable. It really just depends if u want potentially wait at a minimum 7 years for a early archery tag and thats a minimum or hunt Now without all the ruttting action


  9. You can also go to toprut and they have bonus pass numbers for NR and R on their site. Very easy to see and find your odds. Just keep in mind from year to year more ppl can apply for the hunt than did last yr upping the number of points and vice versa


  10. Your license has to be valid on the deadline draw date, it doesn't matter that it was valid when you applied. if not you risk being kicked out of draw and if you have been applying for 5 yrs u lose your loyalty point. As long as u buy a license before the deadline you are fine. The system will see it and u can use that license to hunt in the fall. U don't have to buy another again this fall. So if u bought a license today it's good for 365 days from today. But your license that expires 1-22-17 will get u kicked outta the draw


  11. I don't know much about that area. I hear it gets a lot of traffic from horseback and outfitters. It looks to be very big country. Also my concerns would be the ability to get away from the crowds as there are a high number of hunters all pinched in the northern pockets of these units. I've looked at these units, they do get a lot of press and number of animals in these areas seem to be good, success rates aren't terrible either. But the drawback to me was if you look at access, there are really only a couple or just a few roads that lead to these trailheads or really the northern end in general in these units. So ppl aren't spread out. Everyone basically is going into this area from same few trailheads as you. I know once u get in there there's room to roam but then u have to compete with all the horsebackers, outfitters, etc. but again I've never been there. I'm going OTC myself in CO somewhere but still trying to nail down a few areas to check out


  12. I had this hunt last yr, what I found is 90% of the hunters stay real close to the roads. With that said, there are roads everywhere but find some of the more inaccessible roads/areas and you will find elk. We were in elk everyday and good bugling activity. I had my opportunities to kill a couple big Bulls but I couldn't shoot straight! I thought it was a great hunt once u get away from the crowds.

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  13. my understanding on these leftover tags is they are first come by mail only and if your application gets there early it's rejected. So literally they would have to open your mail before any others and your mail must get there the exact day. Kinda sounds like it may harder to get a leftover tag than regular one!

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