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    52 minutes ago, Rombo said:

    Pretty buck for a December hunt.  I don’t see a commissioners tag buck, but if the hunter is happy!

    Says the guy who murders 2yr old bucks for a living 😂😂. If you spent half your time trying to stay relevant with comments like this, and far less time breaking the law, people might actually take you serious. 

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    Nah, still around. Has anything new or groundbreaking been shared contrary to what I’ve said? I didn’t think so, so why keep the thread going? You guys have way more time on your hands than I do. Especially the guy who pulled up the guides list and looked for my name to find my dog in the fight? 😂

    Everyone got their panties in a bunch when someone (not just me) mentioned it was a hybrid. Now that there’s FAR more evidence to support that, hopefully we can move on to the full story of how he went about killing it from the beginning (not some abbreviated description of the story pulled from an IG post by Duwane himself). Or that really sweet one that trphyhntr repeated from his “source”. But let’s be real, that ain’t happening either. 

    Some people have made their mind up based on Duwanes reputation alone. That’s fine. After-all, good people never make really poor decisions in the moment, do they? My mind hasn’t changed because a few guys on the internet who weren’t there, or even bothered to ask a couple people who were, don’t agree with me. 

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    Speaking of dealing with dementia patients...

    I’ll repeat it ONCE AGAIN. Put your big boy ears on, okay?

    Duwane was never even going to go after the buck until they found out that A3 was requesting permits. Who knows, maybe Duwane didn’t even know about the buck up until that point! If the buck was so special and worth the raffle tag, Colt, Shane, Duwane and Tol would’ve been in there from the beginning. The fact that they weren’t in there from the beginning and the ENTIRE time Ben was watching this buck leading up to the auction hunter even showing up doesn’t sound strange to any of you?? It’s obvious, people. Colt and Shane (and clearly Duwane) would’ve rather seen Tol kill the deer than anyone else if Colt wasn’t going to have a second chance at him. Which is Colt’s prerogative. 

    I know some guides and outfitters who wouldn’t touch this mess. This was a cluster from the beginning. They don’t want the drama. If you’re an outfitter and you specifically go into an area ONLY because you found out another outfitter is chasing a big buck, you’re a douche. I don’t care if you’re A3, mossback or Duwanes whatever guide service. 

    As for the phone call. It was while Ben and the hunter were coming around to relocate the buck, not “getting ready to shoot”. Why did he answer? Who knows, maybe Ben thought for a minute that he’d have a good, honest discussion on the phone with a fellow outfitter who was clearly going after the same deer? We know that didn’t happen. 

     

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    1 hour ago, NOTAGS said:

    So, CJohnson, whose your source for your post?  Ben?  I've found that those who don't succeed makes lots of excuses and stories up to explain their lack of success. I agree with most everyone on here, Dwayne's a stand up guy, helping people pretty regularly.  Helping people become better hunters.  I remember talking to him at the ADA deer seminar years ago at length before my first hunt there,   never pushed me to hire him, but gave me tons of info on the Kaibab.  Saw him there on the late hunt this year , and he was very supportive of other hunters coming in with deer on their own. 

    Hyrbid or not, great buck!  Who wouldn't shoot that toad?

     

    Haters gonna Hate!

    What does it matter who my source is? Change my mind! Once again, thanks for the warm and fuzzy stories of when Duwayne changed your tire, or when Duwayne rocked your baby to sleep. Or whatever. 

    And spare me the “those who don’t succeed make up lots of stories to make up for their lack of success” garbage. You just get back from a Tony Robbins seminar? That’s become the go-to response when snowflakes get offended or don’t have anything significant to contribute. 

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    1 hour ago, jeremiahjohnson said:

    Look I get that there’s a bunch of “fan boys” on here that probably have Adams book, in hard copy, that’s autographed, and they sleep with it every night. But when you look at this whole crap show it boils down to ethics. The way this went down, could constitute a good ol’ fashioned butt whoopin, and probably should have gone down that way. BUT then a lawyer would have been called and someone would cry “SLANDER”. 

    100%

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    16 minutes ago, BOHNTR said:

    Unless the 'biologist' took a DNA sample and confirmed a 'Hybrid' than NOTHING is certain, at this point.  Time will tell I guess, but until then I'm enjoying the fact we have some serious hybrid biologists of our own right here on CWT.  :)

    Wrong. Metatarsals are, in fact, a definitive way of identifying a hybrid. 

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    18 minutes ago, Beaton said:

    So all this amounts to is this is not a true 150inch coues buck but a unique deer and a trophy as far as I'm concerned all the drama of how it was killed is dumb! So Duwane Adam's is the outfitter with the client that harvested it but if the story is true then maybe he should have had common courtesy and backed out but what I'm wondering about is you said the original person who was on the deer said it was on the hill. How did it end up in the flats? Just saying. I agree with trophyhuntr sounds like people are but hurt cause they didn't kill it. But if Adam's just walked in with disregard for the other hunter that's wrong too!

    Correct, this is not a true 150” Coues whitetail deer. The drama is extremely dumb and could’ve easily been avoided. 

    Spotter found the buck on the hill. Ben and the hunter were on the other side of the hill. Before Ben and the hunter could get around to the buck side of the hill, the buck had moved down in the flats. Coincidentally, about that same time Duwane and his hunter got there. Duwanes guide then picked up the buck in the flats. Boom. Dead hybrid. 

     

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    1 hour ago, trphyhntr said:

    Sucks to be him then, should have been on the other side of the hill. You mad bro? I bet you don’t even have any skin in this game. Yet here you are whining 

    Whiner, hater, jealous... they’re all just meaningless terms when someone doesn’t have a solid argument. I borrowed my kids crayolas if you’re still needing that picture? 

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    13 minutes ago, Big or Bust said:

    Awesome coues buck. Old coues buck.  I know no details of either party involved in this drama. 

    There are coues bucks I have on camera in the same unit this buck was killed. All are older and over 100". They are all coues deer. Very, very scarce but they are there. Average dude would never know. And they are all bucks. Not one doe.

    Does everyone know that hybrids are literally almost not found in the wild let alone get to the age this buck needed to be at to score 150"?

    Hybrids are a way of explaining the things the average Joe doesn't get to see or experience or are very rare because they don't get out enough, in my experiences. 

    Lol. Read a book, buddy. Or spend about 3 minutes talking to an actual wildlife biologist. Jim Heffelfinger is a great resource on this. If you’re in the TUCSON area, swing in and talk to Jesse Lim at bull basin and have him tell you of his confirmed hybrid in the same class. You talk as if “rare” means it doesn’t happen. 😂😂. And you’re right, this is an exceptional HALF Coues buck. 

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    36 minutes ago, CatfishKev said:

    I will flip the role. If Duwanes guys were on that buck waiting for Duwanes hunter to show up and kill it and A3 showed up....  Do You think for a second that A3 would just walk away if their hunter was right there ready to go? heck NO! They would have shot that buck right then and there.  If you believe otherwise you are kidding yourself.  

    Secondly, how did Duwane just happen to show up right at the right spot? Isn't it possible he knew there was or could be a big buck there?

    You publically called DuWane a snake,  seems a pretty strong choice of words. I know him personally as one of the nicest, honest, down to earth dudes you could ever meet.  I haven't met a single person that ever had something negative to say about him in fact quite the contrary.   Here's a great example of how he teaches his guys to be. While on the late hunt I was riding along with his son in law on his clients hunt. We found a nice buck but wasnt quite what the client wanted. When leaving another guide with his client are passing us and he flags them down to see what caliber buck they were after. Not only did he tell the dude where the buck was, we went back to make sure they could find it. As it turned out they missed it so he went out of his way to help get the guys client on it and the dude killed the buck. Duwane congratulated his son in law for the gesture when we got back to camp.  Did he have to help the dude out? Nope, but he did. Thats the type of guy DuWane is and has working for him.

    100%, I’m quite positive what Ben would’ve done if the roles were reversed. Definitely not what Duwane did. Minus “providing the hunter”, there was very little A3 had to do with this hunt. Not your typical A3 hunt with 15 guys on every hillside. Just a couple of guys the finder (Ben) wanted there and the hunter. 

    You ask how did Duwane just find that spot without knowing the buck was there? Did you not read anything I wrote?!? Of course he knew the buck was there! Like I said, and like Duwane himself said, “colt gave Shane permission” to take the hunter in there. That’s how Duwane knew where to go. Since you seem to know Duwane super well, ask him his side of the story. Also, ask him why he wasn’t hunting the buck from the very beginning if he knew it was there BEFORE A3 was requesting permits? 

    As for your story. Ummm, thanks for the cool story but clearly that says something about his SIL, not necessarily Duwane. Once again, unless you have something else contrary to what I’ve said about THIS story, you’re just telling stories that make us feel all warm and fuzzy 

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    Just now, standman said:

    Comment was not aimed at anyone in particular. Didn’t even read your post before I posted.   It’s was aimed at everything that I’ve seen on Facebook, Instagram, and this site over the years whenever a big, exceptional, out of ordinary buck is killed and posted.  Hardly ever  fails for a post to go south in a hurry.  

    I don’t know anything about the buck, people involved, or the guide.  Just a general statement about people and social media now a days.  

    Apologies and thanks for the clarification. 

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    5 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

    So wait lol, the a3 hunter wasn’t even there? That’s the reason many people think auction hunts are bunk. Just wait till you get a phone call. And then be pissed someone got there before you? How can someone be pissed about that 

    He was on the other side of the hill, dude. Need me to draw you a picture? Clearly you get confused with words...

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    3 minutes ago, CatfishKev said:

    DuWanes not known for blocking roads into an area and  trying to keep other hunters out of an area.

    DuWanes not known for having tons of dudes on ridges glassing one animal to walk one hunter in to kill it.

    DuWanes also not known for ordering pallets worth of trail cams and having every deer or elk in a unit catolaged. 

     

    Sorry but if A3s hunter was not there and Duwane himself was with his client that buck is fair game.  

    The last thing I’m doing is defending A3 for doing any of that, if they’re guilty of it. I hope they lose guides and permits for doing stuff like that if it’s true. Not gonna lie, I get a little nauseated when I hear myself sound like I’m “defending” A3. But I’m talking about how this particular animal was taken and the facts. Flip the roles played in this instance if you want, then A3 are a bunch of snakes! But that’s not the case. Change my mind. 

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    46 minutes ago, standman said:

    Big bucks, social media and the internet.....

    never fails to produce controversy, jealousy, and name calling.  

    Respectfully, I disagree. Plenty of honest, die hard hunters who get it done year in and year out with ZERO controversy. 

    The jealousy comment is overplayed and like I said, unless you have some different info, change my mind. 

    “Hunters gotta stick together..” they say. Apparently that means we lower our standards? No thanks. I’d rather tell the truth

     

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    42 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

    Someones jelly 

    First you were “confused”. Someone then explained to you what happened. And because you didn’t like the explanation it makes that same someone jealous?? 😂😂. Get real dude. Once again, change my mind. I’m all ears. 

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    Already confirmed by two biologists that it's a hybrid. Why is this even part of the discussion anymore? Unless you're trying to tell Duwane to STOP telling everyone, including his hunter, that it's a Coues buck? 

    Colt Yount found the buck and hunted the buck back in November unsuccessfully. He planned on hunting the buck again this year, I'm sure. That was until they (Duwane, Shane, Colt, or whoever) found out that A3 was requesting permits to guide in a specific area asap where this buck happened to live. Clearly someone else (we'll call him Ben) had found the buck, was planning on selling him to the auction hunter, and A3 was bringing said hunter to hunt it. That's when Colt gave Shane "permission" to take Duwane's hunter (the raffle tag holder, Tol) in there to hurry and kill it before A3 did. Up until that point, Duwane wasn't even hunting the buck. So the race begins...

    Several days later, and a couple of days of unsuccessfully hunting the buck, the buck is found again by one of Ben's friends. Ben and the hunter are now on their way around to the side of the mountain that the buck is on to shoot it. Meanwhile, Duwane pulls up with his hunter and walks right up to the hill where the spotter is and tries to BS with Ben's friend. Ben's friend makes it clear to Duwane that they're already on the buck. Duwane then tries the old "yeah, but which big buck? There's two big bucks in here" trick. A short while later, and after a random phone call made to Ben by Duwane about optics, Duwane's guide (assuming it was Shane) happens to glass the buck up in the flats. And the rest is history.

    This is why nobody wants to talk about it:

    #1 it's a hybrid (which doesn't mean it shouldn't be talked about, per se'), just NOT a full-blooded Coues Whitetail deer

    #2 Duwane's a snake

    #3 Change my mind

     

     

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