Ohthatguy

Unfortunately I can't help out with anything on this specific request but if my schedule allows, I am happy to help on future deals. I don't know if anyone maintains a contact list of people to check with when the need arises or they just go to the forums but if you want to PM me, I'll give you my contact info for future requests. I live in Mesa FWIW. I tried everything I could to get off for the sheep hunt several months back but just couldn't make it happen. I have a goofy schedule so it's hit or miss but there are times I could go for a week straight.

Bushnell Tanks is as easy as it gets. Easy entry on the road and perfect cell reception from Mt. Ord.. 3 Miles back to the tanks or stop at 2.

Constitution 1.5 day trip. Awesome Captain and crew. We, (19 of us), do a private charter with him every year in early Sept..

So what would prevent the anti's from placing cameras at every water source?

+1...Obsession is unreal speed and smoothness combo This!

The 65's are 199 though..... I was in at 140, now I may wait..

The coolers are available again on their site. The 65's are back to 199 shipped though. I liked the 140 price much better. New thread started as well.

According to Rtic, they will have more 65's available soon. (Before the redesigned model is released)

"Aint nobody got time for that!"

Save your money, I have the winning ticket!!

Based on the history of the draw, non-drawing of the draw, or non-entry into the draw, I'd put the same hunt # in all 5 spots if all you wanted was one hunt. In fact, it is exactly what I do for deer. Can't hurt and who knows? You always seem to hear about people not drawing a tag only to find out there are leftovers for the hunt they applied for. Simple answer to his question is yes you can.

Yeah, but then you have to hike the 7 miles to go shoot what you spotted! Maybe you can put some flourite in your boots. Seems to help with the optics.

I probably should have clarified but I was talking about times when you aren't sneaking around but crashing, stomping, laughing and talking. There is no question that they knew I was there. I have also watched bedded deer remain in their beds while people passed by them. The deer knew they were there but weren't spooked. Kind of like when you are sitting on the couch and hear a fire truck. You are aware of it but you only really pay attention to it when they cut off the siren and you know it's close but you wonder where it went?

Iv'e found that the deer are fine as long as they know what it going on around them. You can hike right by some bedded deer and they couldn't care less. The moment you stop, they don't know what you are doing so they get jumpy. How many times have you stopped for a few minutes and a deer busted out from some cover right next to you? Had you kept on walking, you would have passed him up none the wiser. Just another way to say that glassing is better than hiking all over the hills.

I'd much rather skin that guy over a stink pig.. (yet I still fill stinky tags every year. It's a sickness)

I had them decline the second drawn tag charge last spring because they thought it was a duplicate. I called the bank and they can't go back and approve it, GnF had to resubmit the charge. Finally worked out but then the issue about not even being entered into the draw came up. (Hope that issue is all squared away now)

Talk about a reality show! It was actually exciting to follow. I tried to get off work as have many others and glad it all came together.

So what if it's a 175+ lb buck that looks to be a mule deer in every way with the exception of the tail? That is way over the recognized maximum size for a coues. And if it's just an old giant freak, one would think it's rack would reflect that somewhat but some seem to just look like an average 3 1/2 year old mule deer. I certainly don't want this to be a popcorn worthy thread but there is a lot of conflicting information out there. Some referenced information even points back to this site but those threads are no longer available. GreyGhost85 If GnF uses the tail for tagging purposes, that makes that issue pretty cut and dry. Thanks! Unless you wanted to shoot the buck I saw with no tail at all in a group of mule deer that had a small coues buck and doe with them. For what it's worth, I have seen them running together for several years and there has never been any problem telling them apart. The coues stood out like a sore thumb. Now I may have to go look at the rest, especially the tailless guy. (I figured he was a mule deer but now I'm wondering)

So after seeing some of the latest big "Coues" deer in various threads and other places, I was wondering what GnF and the record books use for the definitive call on these. If a nice 175lb buck clearly has a big forked Mule deer rack and a "white tail" tail, can you hang either tag on him? Even if you saw them both prior to shooting, which way does it go? Or do you just wait for archery season and not worry about it? (Doesn't help with the record books though) I just searched the 2017 Main Regs and couldn't find anything about it. Some of the F1 hybrids may be easy to spot but as time goes by, it's going to get harder and harder to distinguish the differences between the two. Makes you wonder how many F2's, F3's etc will end up in the books.

Sweet!! I can't wait till Jan 1st to start chasing the little stinkers.

Saw a yearling coues yesterday with a softball sized white patch right over his lower chest. Don't know if it's low white pied, injury or what. There are supposedly a few resident albino doe in the area but albino and piebald are different mutations so I don't know what he has going on. Could be a marker for sheep though as he seemed intent to climb and hop on top of every possible rock pile in the area. Pretty darn cute.

Middle elevation in 22, (3200') had a little 3x4 mulie chasing some doe all over a mountain last week. Then settled down and grouped back up with his little brother, 6 doe and a little coues buck and doe. Had to bypass that area yesterday due to the rediculous number of hunters. Saw very few doe and not a single buck.

in possession of the last .22 shell ever made?

I'd shoot it here. Not sure if it would be legal in other states but I guess if you had the tag, you would know if you could shoot it with a collar.

Neat little project.