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I have hunted with 30, 284 and 277 caliber SGK's for 50 years. Have processed dozens of deer and several elk. I tended to a lot of shoulder shots (never quite calibrated my eye to get right behind the shoulder) and have excised plenty of ruined meat. Have run across some fragments in the damaged & discarded meat but its been a rarity. Never found lead bits in the meat I kept and have a difficult time imagining tinny bits you can't see having the mass and velocity to travel beyond the wound channel. I do tend to go slow and liberally trim out damage meat and keep a tidy table avoiding contaminated meat getting near the clean stuff. Oh well to late anyway I am 65 retired from a successfully completed & demanding 40 year aviation career, but who knows maybe lead contamination effects kept me from achieving Top Gun School.

I am sorry you have to deal with this. Sadly the young man was likely going to find a way to checkout one way or another. Its' you dilemma that he crossed your path on his fated journey. I for one am glad you shared, it makes me consider selling any handgun through an FFL and get a background check, never would have considered that before but your experience has been sobering to say the least.

Did you sell a long gun or handgun?

This, unfortunately that is the world we live in now.

I live in N Phoenix and am interested

Good shooting Mike.

Both Sire and Dam look young. How old are the mom& dad?

Thanks for the catch. The story popped up in my news feed and never thought to look at the date. I will be mindful of that in the future.

Worse news, 30 Marines and one sailor dead after helo crash in iraq. My heart goes out to their families and I salute their willingness to go in harms way True Heroes.

Dang up to my ears in 270's

I had a 7-08 REM Mod 7 for several years. It was lite and "compact" yet fit me fine as a full sized adult. It was a very handy rifle. I could load 130 gr speers reduced velocity or load 160 gr for elk. My vote 7-08 Tikka.

Super nice buck, thanks for the share.

Temperature and local air pressure make up density altitude. Here in the valley I have shot matches in the winter where DA (density altitude) is -150 feet and in the summer have clocked DA of 4800ft. When I run the two different DA's through my Strelok Pro APP using my 270 hunting rifle shooting Hornady 145ELD-X ammo I come up with 3 inch variation at 600 yards and 9 inches of variation at 800 yards. This example is a bit of an extreme but illustrates the issue. A Ballistic App like Strelok Pro will let you put in numbers and see what happens. Standard pressure at 4500 is 25.37, so run DA at 28Deg F and with a higher pressure of say 26.00 and then 72 Deg and pressure of 24.70 when I run that through a online DA calculator you will get 8,300 feet altitude for cold 12,800 feet altitude for the warmer conditions.

Another recommendation for reading "The Beast in The Garden".

Interesting perspective. For my point of view a lion that kills and feeds on a human is a dead lion not a lion to be studied. As far as predators feeding on a dumped body in the middle of nowhere, well the concern is not the same as when you have what appears to be a lioness and her cubs feeding on human remains showing no fear of people and in a populated area. Taking out these lions was the prudent thing to do. Heck there are more lions in AZ now than there was 100 years ago, not like they are endangered.

Not suspected, is not exactly the same as saying "did not do it".

great thoughts to start the new Year

Nice going, appreciate the share.

Thanks for the post. David was one of my two favorite contemporary out door writers, Craig Boddington is the other. As far as #2, after a lifetime of having Lab companions you come to realize that when they are not having any good days it might be time, still does not help but you are peace with it likely being the right timing.

Palm Springs airport Skywest flies under the American name for 300-400 round trip

Great buck. Sounds like a TROPHY Experience par excellence.

My Dad picked up half a dozen Miroku Charles Daly's on close out in the mid 70s. They are awesome shotguns and my old man shot skeet and did a bunch of dove shooting with his and it stayed tight over all that shooting. If you could find one used on a gun auction sight you will be very pleased.

To True

I/2 gallon a piece for hike in and same for hike out. Low intensity day 3 quarts a per person per day and water for cooking or coffee. Add that up as bare minimum and round up for comfort margins.

Prayers and sympathies for the family. To judge the situation or beat up on the families is a shame because it not like they are not living the outcome. It's only good to appropriately go over what happened so we can all learn or that remedies for the situation can be considered.