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Truly shooting from the hip here. After the rut bucks are vulnerable because they have used a lot of energy/fat reserves, not much left in the tank for that startled sprint when a predator surprises you and gets close and its full energy burst sprint or die. Does herd up normally and guessing bucks join in this behavior for added security or at least if you are not the slowest you wont get eaten? Seems like this is normal behavior for this time of year.

Sold last week 520 without scope

Quick someone buy this before we get a "Broke Back Mountain" bump.

I would echo this experience, I have had similar with my first three elk. Two where taken at 300 plus and this is where a partner spotting for you is critical. In one case I hiked down into a gully and up it a little and nothing looked the same as it did 300 yards away, took a little doing but found him right where I last saw him.

Rem MOD 7 from mid 90's asking $520 rifle & scope mount only 7-08 23" 4 groove 1/10 Broughton barrel (at the time he was one of the goto barrel makers for bench rest) .635 at muzzle trigger adjusted to 3 lbs epoxy beaded Leupold mounts asking $520.00

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its a plastic REM stock epoxy beaded but not pillars LOP 13 the barrel I had put on is a little heavier than a standard MOD Seven.

When my GF started shooting with me she would jump at loud reports from shooters on the next bench. When going with me tp PRS matches she also would startle at rifles discharging nearby. For the last 12MO she has been shooting 22NRL and 22 Silhouette. It has been a great way to get her a foundation of comfort around shooting and guns going bang.

I have never heard of a "minimum safe load" as far as black powder is concerned. For black powder a safe load is one that will get the ball out the barrel. As far as substitute powder for BP not sure if its the same?

You are correct about the tip. On the Hornady site SST tip is not advertised as the heat resistant type but after that the bullets are not the same. Hornady has an awesome video on the ELD-X and what they describe is exactly what my experience been. Very accurate and solid terminal performance.

Most of my deer have gone down to 165 Sierra GK out of 30-06. Had a 165 through and through both shoulders on a deer at 80 yardsish and through a spike bull at 60 yds bullets held up and exited even at a zippy speed you might not see out of the 308. More recently been using 270WIN and had my first chance to take a deer with ELD-X. It was a 350 yard shot and hit just ahead of mid ribs and exited other side back of the diaphragm, I thought the bullet did well to cross through the body lungs and paunch and make an nice exit hole of decent size. The ELD-X has good BC, been accurate and performed well that one time for us.

I don't get the bumpstock angst. Did you feel your right to own an AR with a 30round mag was diminished because you can't get a bumpstock? Are bumpstocks accuracy or long range enhancers? To me they re a gimmick pointless to ban and not worth trading political capitol to fight for. Maybe more jawboning about how it was a gimmick that did not make anything more dangerous and that ANTIS were just show boating. I do not feel our 2A rights were in anyway diminished by this silly ban.

I like that AZ has a draw for each species with 5 hunt choices. Last I used UT you got I application that you had to put your choices on Deer, Elk once in a lifetime, that's the part I did not like.

I am full up on 270win rifles and this is tempting.

Just bought a pair of similar in 12X very nice glass and a good upgrade from my 10X Zeiss classics. I would rate these as good as and better than Zeiss classics.

I grew up in AZ and I recall the draw started in mid 70's. Then life happened and I ended working and rasing a family up in Utah. Utah went to a a limited entry tag type F-upped system to spread out hunt pressure. Then Colorado had to reign in their tags hunt pressure. I tell you the AZ system is far better than all the others out west. I have used it as a resident & non resident and compared to CO and UT I love the AZ system. BTW my 28 year old son took his first buck in 35B last year as a non resident, that makes three generations of AZ hunters with his success for us.

????????? No goof there. Like our Union President told us one year, membership & participation count. Simple and cheap just be a member and give $10 a year to NRA-ILA. High rates of participation in PAC donations by membership counts a lot with politicians and does not matter how much you gave just that you did. NRA or another 2A rights group gets more clout if they can say "100% of membership gave $ to our PAC". One thing politicians respect is $. whatever your beef with NRA they are still a big player in the 2A rights arena. Heck also join and donate $ to a second 2A group kinda like voting twice. Always Always be a HAPPY WARRIOR for your RIGHTS

So everything has been good till just last fall, OCT? Is the ammo the same lot # ? Have you shot up all the ammo from last fall and still having the issue with ammo bought more recently? You clean your rifle regularly so that's not and issue, maybe your rifle just happened to get built on the tighter side of spec's and ammo lot was a little to much powder or bullet runout a touch on long side and you are getting pressure spike??? Have you tried new box ammo, different lot # ?

Could be your load is right on the pressure border. When the third round sits in the chamber and powder gets warmed up then you get pressure over the line and stick the bolt. Thats a guess for what might be occurring.

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Several wilderness areas in 23 Sierra Ancha Wilderness up hi and a couple wilderness on the west side a little lower. You could run into rain and a very off chance of snow that time of year. Then it could also be warmish just don't know till its gets there.

Ok from what I read on the Spanish Mauser page, is that if its 8X57mm then it was converted from 7mm to 8mm by the Spanish. I could not find anything about shooting these rifles or loading for them. Spain also converted a lot of 7mm to 7.62 and those do not sound like you want to fire full loaded 7.62 NATO or 308 in them. Not sure what you could sell it for.

Looks like Spanish Mauser MOD 1916. They were originally 7X57 and in 1943 Spain converted them to 8X57. Pictures of the top of the receiver and left side would help.

The L C stamp in the wood behind the tang screw could be "La Crona" arsenal stamp