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  1. Out to 500-600 yards the big difference is going to be recoil. Less recoil to manage from a hunting/field shooting position equals better accuracy. The 308 Hornady 178gr ELD-X ammo at 800 yards has 1500fps and 894 ft/lb energy. Now something better (if we are talking hunting) than the 308 or Creed would be the 280 Hornady 150gr ELDX, at 800 the .280/150gr has velocity 1740fps and energy 1008 ft/lb with less or at least no more recoil than the 308. 


  2. Maximus what are you aiming to hit at 600-800 yards? 

    5 minutes ago, STOMP442 said:

    Very similar ballistics when comparing heavy for caliber bullets such as 200gr vs 140gr. The .308 will deliver more energy at extended ranges and wind drift will be nearly identical but the Creedmoor will be much flatter shooting. That being said, most hunters using a .308 are using 150-185gr max in which a 140gr 6.5 projectile will provide better wind drift and trajectory and give up very little in the energy department. You have to compare apples to apples and it all depends on what you intend to do with it. A deer shot at 600 yards with either one will never know the difference. The .308 is a proven performer like say a suburban parked in your drive way and the Creedmoor is the new sports car your neighbor just bought. Both will get you to the grocery store and back. 

    To be more accurate the 308 is a Suburban and the Creed is the 4Runner 

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  3. 10 hours ago, Flatlander said:

    Public agencies who manage public resources are required to have a formal process for public input. If the anti’s flood the public comment process with requests to end lion, bear and bobcat hunting then if the department doesn’t consider those comments, the anti’s can sue the department on some liberal court and object to the policies, taking wildlife management away from science and into politics.

    Amber was likely doing hunters a favor by speaking up in a meeting with a well organized sportsmen group who could mount a response.

    Email your pro hunting comments here:

    AZHuntGuidelines@azgfd.gov

    Thank you FlatLander, I just emailed in my support for hunting. Hope other do the same. Get involved or get railroaded by anti's.


  4. Interesting topic. So a Guide that sounds like he is for the most part a decent sort flubbed some paper work by accident, or because other motives? The FS fines him and the AZGFD hammers him hard. Why a harsh punishment for failing to report a couple of hunters? Was the commission trying to crack down on under reporting? Were some commission members motivated against Steve? Seems like a punishment fit for guiding unlicensed, taking out hunters without proper permits/licenses or guiding hunters outside their permitted unit.  Why did the commission hit him so hard ???

     

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  5. 35 minutes ago, Sky Island junkie said:

    Had snow last year during the same hunt, unit north of there last year. 97 or 98 snow again in same unit, same hunt but more of it. Short sleeves on Friday afternoon and Saturday afternoon bundled up!

    Found my notes and it was 1996. Yep warm Friday and Saturday dark by 3:00 pm and inches of snow by 4:00 PM.


  6. 3 hours ago, sjvcon said:

    All great comments.  Thanks for that.

    I did look through a F1 NX8, and was not bothered by the size change.  For holdover that is nice.

    Lance...mil over moa...how hard to make the adjustment from Standard to Metric?  I always felt like 1.08@ 100 made it easy.

    At 100 yards 1MOA = 1.047in    1MIL = 3.6in.   At 100 yards one 1/4 MOA click = 1/4 inch and one 1/10 MIL click = about 1/3 inch. Clicks in MOA approximately 1/4 inch at 100y in MILL's 1 click approximately 1/3 inch at 100 yards. That is the simple uncomplicated difference , otherwise they act the same. What do your shooting/hunting buddies use? You want to shoot in the same measurement as they do so you are speaking the same language. It becomes more critical in wind calls at distance. If you are in a PRS match and other shooters are saying 3 mills of wind and you are in MOA then get that math brain turning up to make the conversion in your head (3X.36 = 1 MOA approximately. 

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  7. 34 minutes ago, lancetkenyon said:

    Depends on if you want FFP or SFP.  That will be the determining factor.

    If you want FFP, the NX8 is the only scope on your list that fits the bill.  I am a FFP MIL guy, so the ONLY one that would get my consideration.

    If you want SFP, I would go, in order:

    NF NX8 (tracking, mechanics, build quality, glass is still very good, parallax is a slight bit touchy, but not bad)

    Zeiss V6 (glass is the best of the bunch, turrets are decent but not as crisp as the NF, I have only shot behind a few, so not sure how the tracking and durability compare to the NF)

    A distant third would be Leupold VX6 HD (actually not even considered)

    The glass on the Leupold is great, weight is nice, but I have seen WAY too many tracking issues with Leupold to consider one for my own use.  Even if you went Mk 5, Mk 6, Mk 8.  

    Lance why FFP? Do you use it for ranging or hold over? With LRF and dial up I would think it would not matter. What is it about a FFP that you find advantageous to hunting?

     


  8. Wow how hunting has changed. I have spent many decades hunting with rigs that weighed 8 pounds or so and scopes from 4X, 6X to 3-9 and 4-12. The advantage was moving around, up and down hills was easy and when the opportunity for a quick close up shot presented a handy rig that handled like a quail gun sure was useful. For shots under 500 yards a 3-9 works. Now it depends on your hunting, will it all tend toward longer shots? An F1 scope at lower power does present a pretty faint reticle, I would go F2 if I thought lower power would be used. I have a NX8 4-32 on my competition rifle and IT IS GREAT. I swear my scores got better with the NF scope. I would definitely use the NX8 if I hunted with a 15ish pound rifle and planned on shots from 500 yards on out.

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