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  1. Catfish-  I appreciate you listening to my podcast and hope that you will be able to pick up some great info from the amazing guests that I've had on.  My bet is you can find some good tidbits of info within the almost 600 episodes.  As to anyone else that has downloaded and supported my podcast, I say thank you for the support.  I will continue to bring value and extract things out of my guests brains that might be of value to other hunters.  What a great fall season we all have to look forward to in 2019 with all of the moisture!  God Bless

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  2. On ‎12‎/‎24‎/‎2018 at 10:59 AM, codyhuntsaz said:

    Great info, thanks! As to your points:

    1) we have the Mexican resident that is helping with our gun permits meet us at the border and help out with that. A person in our group speaks fluent Spanish. 

    2) from what a few have told me as long as you have a notarized letter from the company owner (himself) allowing him to drive the vehicle (stating they are one in the same) it should be ok. 

    3) that’s the first I’ve heard about the ammo. I know there is a 30-06, 7mm mag and a .300 win mag going down, not sure on the other guns. 

    4) we plan on trying to pay for most everything in pesos to try and solve the conversion issue. Tips to rancher and help will be in American dollars. 

    5) I’ve heard that from almost everyone that’s been down there. 

    6) that will be tough for me, I’m a planner. I like things to go smoothly, i gererally have a problem when things don’t go as planned. I’ll have to work on that this trip haha! 

    7) how did your group do? Kill some good bucks? How far south of the border were you? 

    Thanks again for the info!!

    Cody-

    I think Ernesto and others have been doing a great job giving advice to you for your hunt.  I apologize if this has already been covered but make sure to have your US Fish and Wildlife Declaration Form and Notice of Arrival Form ready and filled out when you cross back into the US.  You can google and print both forms by simply typing those words in.  I'm happy to help if you have any questions on the form.

     

    A couple of other things, make sure on the back of your gun permit in the middle it says "El Prestador De Servicios" that is where the owner of the ranch needs to make sure they sign.  I've seen many years this never signed and it doesn't create a problem but it seems lately the military and the policia at Aduana want that signed.

     

    Remember you can also google and print your Customs 4457 form.  Make sure the US customs sign and date that form on your way in.

    Capes need to be "pliable" upon reaching the border.  They want to be able to check for ticks throughout the whole cape.  If one tick is found dead or alive there is a very good chance they will confiscate the cape.  In years past they used to let us pick until they were satisfied but seems like last year the tolerance level was lower.

    Don't forget to cancel your vehicle permit and check your guns out at military and policia on the way back to the US

    I appreciate everyone trying to help and sticking together.  Its really great to see!  Please don't hesitate to reach out if anyone has further questions as I will do my best to help. jayscottoutdoors@gmail.com

    Have a great time in Sonora as it is one of the finest and most spectacular places in the world.  Shoot straight and drive safe!

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  4.  

    Please send comments and questions to info@conserveandprotectaz.org

     

    Well Jay, I'm not sure you really wanted questions after your love-fest Podcasts with Pete. I have sent you a respectful PM last week that you have not bothered to read. I also sent questions last Wednesday to Conserve and Protect at their "info" email and am still waiting for an answer to even one of the questions.

     

    One of them was do they have an email list to send people updates. You did ask Pete that and he said sure - sign up on their web page as a supporter. Perhaps not everyone who would like to stay informed wants them to be able to list them as a "supporter"! I noticed you did not follow up.

     

    I hope you will find time to open your PMs. And I hope C&P will do more than just solicit questions.

    Bruce-

    I very rarely ever check my pm’s on CWT. Email or Instagram DM is my best form of communication

    I have been in Mexico Gould’s turkey hunting. I had messages from some of my friends saying you were trying to reach me. I’m glad we were able to chat on the phone. I’m heading back into Mexico with another group shortly. Hopefully we can talk more later. My email is jayscottoutdoors@gmail.com


  5. Guys I just interviewed Pete Cimellaro of ConserveandProtectAZ.org again (Episode 426) and asked him questions specifically from the questions you guys listed above. Give it a listen as I believe you will gain some more understanding of what they are proposing and why they are doing so. I tried to ask as many specific questions as time would allow.

     

    Links to the episode 423, 424 and 426 Jay Scott Outdoors Podcast

     

    For IOS and Apple users, https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jay-scott-outdoors-western/id970694987?mt=2

     

    For Android and PC users, http://jayscottoutdoors.podbean.com/?source=pb

     

    Please send comments and questions to info@conserveandprotectaz.org

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  6. Jay, BS

    They do not want our input or they would have given us more time..... more notice and been transparent.

    I hear what you are saying but this is just starting. All Sportsmen have the ability to have a major impact on this if you don't like it tell them why. If you do tell them why. In my opinion, we as Sportsmen need to express our likes and dislikes of the idea. I think this will continue to take shape according to your input. I will try to keep you posted on the next meeting. This is our chance to be heard. All Sportsmen's ideas and concepts should be entertained in my opinion.


  7. Jay,

    Thanks for the information. I would not get it if it wasn't for your podcast and I thought you did a good job being fair and impartial in your interview of Pete.

     

    During your interview, there was a list of names mentioned that sounded like they were a part of ConserveandProtect. I recognized a few of those names but couldn't find them or any others listed on it's website. One person in particular I had plenty of conversations in 2012 about this and felt good about his opinion on that matter back then. It might be useful, at least to me to see the people involved listed on the website. Maybe I missed where they're posted, but I couldn't find them.

    Saguaro-I think this is what you are looking for. I was sent this and it was one of the things I read on my podcast Episode 424

    -----Original Message-----

    From: Jason

    Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 12:22 AM

    To: info@conserveandprotectaz.org

    Subject: Input re: Tag Grab

     

    I dont feel like getting into too many details at this time, but i am

    against the tag grab in any form, and will fight it just as hard as i did

    last time. I knew it would pop up again and i am ready to start fighting

    against it. You guys are unbelievable.

     

    To: Jason and all Arizona sportsmen and women.

     

    Jason since you were the first to react so strongly to what was discussed on Jay Scott’s podcast, I thought I would respond to you; but I also want as many as possible of Arizona’s sportsmen and women to hear it as well. Please spread the word!

     

    Conserve and Protect Arizona (CAPAZ) has just prevented the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) from stopping all mountain lion and bobcat hunting in Arizona. That immediate threat is gone, but will they come back? Only time will tell, and shame on us if we are not prepared to defend ourselves in the future!

     

    Who is Conserve and Protect Arizona? It was formed by a small group of sportsmen with financial help from some of the states most well known sportsmen conservation organizations. The Arizona Desert Bighorn Sheep Society, Arizona Elk Society, Arizona Deer Association, Arizona Antelope Foundation, Yuma Valley Rod and Gun Club, Arizona Bowhunters Association and the Arizona Chapter of the National Wild Turkey Federation, and some houndsmen and women, all made contributions.

     

    The 35 member organizations, including those listed earlier, of Arizona Sportsmen for Wildlife Conservation also signed on in support of CAPAZ.

     

    For the past year CAPAZ has been working to deny the HSUS signature gatherers from collecting the 151,000 + signatures they needed to qualify their initiative. We jumped in and did this because, by law, the Arizona Game and Fish Department cannot defend themselves. Once an initiative is filed they are precluded from commenting and spending any department funds to defeat it.

     

    We did it quietly behind the scenes and without any media coverage.

    They didn’t know what we were doing and didn’t even know about us until it was too late. On March 31st, after six months of effort and with only a small number of signatures collected, HSUS suspended their campaign. This is the first time in twenty-five years, and eighty-one ballot measures the HSUS has pulled out of a campaign.

     

    Thanks to all of those who supported the CAPAZ effort, or made contributions, this is an important victory we can all share!

     

    With the history behind us lets look at where we are now. CAPAZ had to run a quiet underground campaign because we did not have the three to five million dollars necessary to run a traditional campaign to educate the voters. Our plan worked once, but now with HSUS aware of our effort they are educated. We are back to trying to find a way to defend ourselves. It will take the education of the voting public and millions of dollars to make this happen in order to effectively defend us against another HSUS effort.

     

    How do we raise the money? Do you have a plan? Do you have donors willing to write big checks? Can we rely on you to take this on and defend hunting and the professional wildlife management of the Arizona Game & Fish Department and Commission?

     

    Where were you on the HSUS issue we just brought to an end?

     

    These are the questions we had to answer at CAPAZ. Our collective work turned the issue in our favor and sent the HSUS packing. Now we are focused on “Going Forward” and defending wildlife, the Arizona Game and Fish Department, the Arizona Game & Fish Commission, and all Arizona Sportsmen and Women. Listen to what we have to say and give us a fair chance too make our case!

     

    What happened in 2012 is far different then what CAPAZ is doing today. All of the organizations listed earlier were opposed to that effort. Today, we are working with them and soliciting their input on this issue.

     

    Let me make one other thing very clear, none of these organizations have been asked to support any proposal for a special tag program. They are participating in our effort to take this to sportsmen and women and discuss a concept of raising funds for public education through the sale of a limited number of special tags.

     

    Through a collaborative effort with all stakeholders we want to try and establish a program which educates the people of Arizona about the importance of professional wildlife management, the support of hunters and anglers and how this is important to wildlife, wildlife management, and wildlife habitat.

     

    The Facts from Conserve and Protect Arizona:

     

    Conserve and Protect Arizona will not get a dime of this money.

     

    Meetings started last week to discuss this concept and more will continue in the future.

     

    At this time no legislation is written supporting this concept.

     

    This effort is being discussed with the Arizona Game & Fish Department and Commission.

     

    If this program is established, the Arizona Game & Fish Department will administer it, not an outside organization.

     

    Our suggestion is that a managing committee, similar to the Habitat Partnership Committee, be established to administer it.

     

    The Special Commissioners tags that currently support the Habitat Partnership process will not be used for education. Only the new tags authorized under the program will be used for education.

     

    We are not advocating for any particular number of tags. This would be determined in the future development of the program.

     

    All sportsmen and women together, are small in number when compared to the entire population. We cannot afford to lose anyone in our effort to remain viable in our pursuit of the outdoors. Join with us to insure we have a strong voice in determining that future

     

    In closing, let me assure you we want your constructive comments and concerns. We are trying to involve as many as possible so that product we produce can be support by the great majority of sportsmen and women.

     

    Conserve and Protect Arizona Board

     

    Pete Cimellaro, President

    Rich Williams, Vice President

    Tracy Unmacht Secretary

    Charlie Kelly, Treasurer

    Eddy Corona, Director

    Jim Unmacht, Director

    John Koleszar, Director

    Brad Remfrey, Director

     

    PS: We would not have put this out on Jay’s podcast if we were trying to keep it from you!

     

    Contact us:

     

    info@conserveandprotectaz.org


  8. Jay, i have for the most part been a supporter of what you do. You say you are undecided as of now, but the interview proves indifferently. You pitched that boy nothing but softballs and did not ask any opposing questions at all. You defended him and his “cause” thoroughly. This guy is a snake and a lackey of Peay, Hamberlin, Gallo and Meyer. Nothing more. He takes credit for stopping HSUS but will not say how or what they did. All he says is they “worked in the shadows”, which is probably true because that’s how they get their initiative passed is by “working in the shadows”

    Grey Ghost-I'm sorry you didn't like the interview. I tried to get as much info out of Pete rather than be confrontational. We had a 45 minute window before Pete had to go to the next meeting. I have always respected the work that Pete has done for Sportsmen and thought that I asked him questions which brought out the info that would help Sportsmen formulate their own opinion. You are entitled to your opinion of my interviewing skills and I respect that. I will continue to strive for bringing out info on my podcast.


  9. idgaf- I'm not going to let you drag me into this. I found out for the first time yesterday afternoon about this and heard there was a public meeting. I showed up to the meeting with my recorder hoping to record the meeting with the intent to publish it on my podcast so that MORE Sportsman could hear what is going on. I was happy to find out that Pete said no problem and actually encouraged me to in his words, "Please get this out to as many people as you can" That is exactly what I did. If you listen to the episodes you will see that I have not taken any side rather than acted as someone trying to get the info to the people the quickest.

     

    I have zero affiliation with Conserve and Protect Arizona nor AZSFWC. I am a member of RMEF, NWTF, AES, ADA and ADBSS like alot of Sportsman are. I have a great respect for the volunteers that help shape our wildlife and hunting traditions. I tend to listen to all sides before making and forming my opinions.

     

    As to guiding any of the potential tags that this would create it honestly hasn't even entered my mind. If you don't believe me then I cant help that. I am about 26 hours into even hearing the words Conserve and Protect Arizona. At this point its way to early for me to formulate any opinions on the matter.

     

    I will continue to try and inform and educate the public and Sportsman anyway I can and let them make their own opinions.

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  10. I just completed a question and answer interview with Pete Cimellaro of Conserve and Protect Arizona. (Episode 424) I tried to ask as many questions as I could. There is a meeting tonight that starts at 6pm Embassy Suites in Scottsdale 5001 N. Scottsdale Rd that is open to the public. It is before the normally scheduled meeting of the Arizona Desert Bighorn Sheep Society. I think there is alot of information in this interview about what is going on.

     

     

    Episode 424 Jay Scott Outdoors Podcast

     

    For IOS and Apple users, https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jay-scott-outdoors-western/id970694987?mt=2

     

    For Android and PC users, http://jayscottoutdoors.podbean.com/?source=pb

     

    Please send questions. comments and concerns to info@conserveandprotectaz.org


  11. I just completed a question and answer interview with Pete Cimellaro of Conserve and Protect Arizona. (Episode 424) I tried to ask as many questions as I could. There is a meeting tonight that starts at 6pm Embassy Suites in Scottsdale 5001 N. Scottsdale Rd that is open to the public. It is before the normally scheduled meeting of the Arizona Desert Bighorn Sheep Society. I think there is alot of information in this interview about what is going on.

     

     

    Episode 424 Jay Scott Outdoors Podcast

     

    For IOS and Apple users, https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jay-scott-outdoors-western/id970694987?mt=2

     

    For Android and PC users, http://jayscottoutdoors.podbean.com/?source=pb

     

    Please send questions. comments and concerns to info@conserveandprotectaz.org

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  12. Guys-

    I have a follow question and answer session with Pete Cimallero today about last nights meeting in which you can hear on episode 423 of my podcast. I have a bunch of questions to ask him. If you have a specific question that you would like answered please post them here and I will do my best to get all of the questions answered. I will then be posting our conversation in its entirety on my podcast so that we call all try to be informed as possible. I would ask all Sportsman to hear all of the facts and then form and make an informed decision. At the meeting last night, they were adamant that they want this to be completely transparent and open for discussion among Sportsman unlike the last thing similar to this in 2012. I for one understand as Sportsman that we are facing numbers of issues from many people who want to see our heritage of hunting going away. Lets get all of the facts then each individual can make their mind up. I was sick to see Grizzly Bear hunting in BC go away just by it getting on the ballot. I'm afraid we could easily see something similar happen in our near future. There will be additional meetings on this where the public sportsman is encouraged to come. Last night their was only 12 sportsman who showed up. I'm trying to get as much info out to your guys as possible.

     

    Please post your specific questions and I will do my best to get them all answered

     

    In all fairness, Pete Cimallero has probably done more for the wildlife in the state of Arizona on a complete volunteer basis than anyone I know. For probably 30 plus years. I think all of his ideas and commentary need to be fully listened to before jumping to conclusions. I'm not saying you have to agree with him at all BUT I do believe he has earned the right to be listened to and respected for what he has done for all of us Sportsman.

     

    I know this is a very complex and complicated issue. I would ask everyone to at least be respectful of ALL opinions. For the record, I was at some of the meetings last time and heard Pete with my own ears voice his opinion against what was being proposed. I'm sure there is a reason now that his opinion has changed. I will be diligent to find out what is different now.

     

    There is a presentation tonight at Embassy Suites 5001 N. Scottsdale, AZ 7pm at Arizona Desert Bighorn Sheep Society. Please go out an get fully informed.

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  13. Guys-

    I have a follow question and answer session with Pete Cimallero today about last nights meeting in which you can hear on episode 423 of my podcast. I have a bunch of questions to ask him. If you have a specific question that you would like answered please post them here and I will do my best to get all of the questions answered. I will then be posting our conversation in its entirety on my podcast so that we call all try to be informed as possible. I would ask all Sportsman to hear all of the facts and then form and make an informed decision. At the meeting last night, they were adamant that they want this to be completely transparent and open for discussion among Sportsman unlike the last thing similar to this in 2012. I for one understand as Sportsman that we are facing numbers of issues from many people who want to see our heritage of hunting going away. Lets get all of the facts then each individual can make their mind up. I was sick to see Grizzly Bear hunting in BC go away just by it getting on the ballot. I'm afraid we could easily see something similar happen in our near future. There will be additional meetings on this where the public sportsman is encouraged to come. Last night their was only 12 sportsman who showed up. I'm trying to get as much info out to your guys as possible.

     

    Please post your specific questions and I will do my best to get them all answered

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  14. I heard about a public meeting tonight in Phoenix where ConserveandProtectAZ.org was going to discuss new unit wide Raffle and Auction tags in order to raise money to help educate the public on issues such as Why its important to keep wildlife management in the hands of professionals like AZGFD. So I wanted to attend to see what this was all about. They allowed me to record the audio on my podcast. Please listen and direct all comments, questions, concerns to info@conserveandprotectaz.org

     

    I went as a Sportsman interested in hearing what was going on and to try to get more educated on the subject. I will try to get more info out there as it presents itself.

     

    Links to the episode 423 Jay Scott Outdoors Podcast

     

    For IOS and Apple users, https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/jay-scott-outdoors-western/id970694987?mt=2

     

    For Android and PC users, http://jayscottoutdoors.podbean.com/?source=pb

     

    Please send comments and questions to info@conserveandprotectaz.org


  15. Ernesto thanks so much for trying to help us understand some of the new regulations for taking vehicles into Mexico.

     

    We should use this post to help everyone that is going down to Mexico this season. Please feel free to add comments if you have concrete info.

     

    1. Vehicles have to be in your personal name and in the drivers name.

    2. If taking a trailer the trailer has to be in the drivers personal name.

    3. If taking a quad or utv they also have to be in the driver of the towing vehicles personal name.

    4. You cannot mix and match different owners on the trailer, quads or UTV's. Everything has to be in the drivers name.

    5. I have been told no flatbed trucks and no dual tire trucks (no confirmation on this yet)

    6. I have been told no commercial vehicles. (i highly recommend personal name vehicles)

    7. You must have the title or the registration that is valid and up to date.

    8. I have been told by some that if the vehicle is over 7716 (which is any 3/4 or larger vehicle) is will not be eligible to pass into Mexico. Conversely, I have been told that it is ok to be over 7716 but you just have to pay more. (if someone gets concrete info on this please keep us informed)

    9. I always make copies of my passport, drivers license, title, registration etc. Multiple copies.

    10. I have seen it done where the truck is in a company name or LLC. I have seen it work where on company letterhead it states that Joe Blow has the authority and permission to take the xxxx vehicle with license plate XXX into mexico for these dates. (I'm not sure if that is going to work anymore)

    11. I dont think it would hurt to have a letter that is notarized that says that the vehicle is for personal use only and is not a commercial vehicle. (I think they are trying to crack down on commercial vehicles entering into Mexico)

     

    As I get more info I will try to share it on here. Remember No Capes with ticks can cross into the US. Pick them clean so that we make all hunters look good.

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  16. AZ Killer- I'm not even sure what you mean by shenanigans but I assume you are trying to bait me into some sort of public argument. I have talked openly about the hunt on my podcast in episode 229. You can choose to listen or not I don't really care. If you are asking about Brian Rimsza? I would tell you he is doing fine as I talk to him about every other day or so. The money that was raised on that tag will prove to be essential with the huge die off we are witnessing in our Nelsoni herds.

     

    trophyhntr- I am not sure if your post is directed at me or AZ Killa. For the record, Darr and I believed the sheep was between 180 and 185 depending on bases and length. That is exactly what he was. There was never a time that we believed the ram could exceed 185. We believe the sheep that was harvested is the most unique ram to ever be harvested by a hunter in the state of Arizona.

     

    The hunt was guided by a partnership between Colburn and Scott Outfitters and Arizona Desert Outfitters.

     

    Our hunter bought the tag and we chose to include ADO because they had past history of trail cams of the ram. We felt like including ADO gave our client the best opportunity to harvest the ram. It turned out our hunch was correct.

     

    If anyone has questions or concerns about the hunt I can be reached at 602-803-0223 or by email at jayscottoutdoors@gmail.com.

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  17. We took our first group of 5 hunters down to Sonora December 27-January 4th. We went 5 for 5. We had a couple of young guys harvest their first coues. We had a lot of fun. Virtually zero rut. It should start up by mid month down there. Full moon on the 12th might be interesting on rut timing. Weather is definitely warmer than normal which might delay things a bit. Eventually they will get after it. I have on location podcast episode from our hunt going live tomorrow. Love this time of year. Everyone who is going down be safe, try not to travel at night and stay out of the towns and cities as much as possible. There is no place I like better than Sonora! Go get em guys! We can't wait to get back down there for some more action!

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  18. Grundle-

    Again spewing things that are false and untrue.

     

    Let me clarify a couple things, I have told my side of the story and am sharing videos and photos that were taken strictly by Myself and Darr Colburn on my Instagram account. Here is a portion,"We took this video the spring of 2016 it was the first time we actually ever saw this ram in person. Our good friend Ray Alt found the ram two days prior and I met Ray the following morning to try and get a personal look at him and maybe some #phoneskope video. We looked all day and could not find him. He had vanished like a ghost. I went back home that night and the next morning Ray called me saying he was looking at him again. @darrcolburn and I packed up and headed to the western deserts to try and get a look. When we got there Ray said that he had fed over the hill and so we spread out in the area and this was the first look I ever got of the ram known as "Curly". The first time I knew about curly was in 2014 when Darr and I were guiding the desert bighorn sheep auction Hunter. Arizona Desert Outfitters had sent us some trail cam pictures of this ram. We have a lot of photos and video to share of this ram. We would like to thank Arizona Desert Outfitters for working with @darrcolburn and I and our auction hunter on a successful hunt. Cool video clip captured by @darrcolburn of "Curly". The ram was nicknamed by the guys at Arizona Desert Outfitters (ADO) for obvious reasons. One of the challenges with this ram is that the ADO guys would get trail camera photos every once in awhile of the ram but actually putting eyes him always proved to be a challenge for them because of the nature of this ram to hang in the ironwood washes and low areas. The ram was almost always solo. Many times between photos the guys thought he might have passed away. Then he always seemed to pop back up again. When the hunter who wishes to remain anonymous purchased the tag, we felt that getting the ADO guys involved and leaning on their knowledge of the ram's loner behavior was absolutely the best chance for the hunter to harvest the ram. A great partnership was put into action."

     

    To be clear the auction hunter has been a friend of mine for over 25 years. He purchased the tag at the sheep show. He booked his hunt with Colburn and Scott Outfitters. He wishes to remain anonymous and for that I respect him and his reasons.

     

    ADO also booked the General season hunter in unit 43 A. I have never spoken to ADO's General season hunter or his father. I hear they are fantastic guys! I did not step foot in the unit until his hunt was over because I did not want to interfere with his hunt in any way. That means between December 1-17, I was never one time in unit 43a. There were agreements made between ADO and their General season hunter and his father, some that I am aware of and some that I am not.

     

    The ram has been extremely elusive and a loner for many years. Very few people can actually say they have seen him in person. The ADO guys have trail cam photos since 12 or 13, hopefully they will share them because they tell the story of this nomadic sheep. They did a fantastic job of trying to follow and document this ram as he was like a ghost.

     

    Darr and I knew that getting ADO involved after my friend and our hunter bought the tag would dramatically help our hunters chances of harvesting the ram.

     

    Again, I'm not sure why people have to say things that are not true.

     

    Merry Christmas to all the CWT members out there! I appreciate some of you that have stood up for me on here. To be clear, I make mistakes everyday and I am only saved by the eternal grace of God. Without that grace I would be rolling around in the gutter.

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  19. Couesbuk and Grundleshot you guys are taking bits and pieces of a story and spewing nonsense. There were definitely lots of moving parts with this story but your mixing things that are completely false with half truths. My number is the same it's always been. But you don't want to know the truth. You want to slander me. I have broad shoulders and I know what really happened. Good day! 602-803-0223 jayscottoutdoors@gmail.com

     

    Again like I've said before, this was a great partnership between Colburn and Scott Outfitters and Arizona Desert Outfitters. Both groups played different roles in getting this ram harvested. Agreements were also made by ADO and their General season hunter and his father both of whom I've never met or spoken to.

     

    I'm thankful and privileged to have seen a ram of this age, uniqueness and size and grateful for the dollars raised to help, protect and multiply sheep we all love and get to enjoy.

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  20. I heard there were some things being said on this forum so I came over and checked it out. Maybe I can clarify a few things. This was a team effort between Colburn and Scott Outfitters and Arizona Desert Outfitters, both played roles in several and different aspects of this hunt. The ram that was harvested was aged at 13 years old. He was shot with archery equipment. The ram is in my opinion the most unique ram to ever be harvested in our beloved states history. Great money was raised to benefit the sheep herds of Arizona and if you know what is going on in region III then you know we are going to need money. Their seems to be a lot of bitterness that surrounds these hunts and for that I have no explanation. My hats off to the guys at Arizona Desert Outfitters for their hard work on this hunt. Everyone has an opinion and that is ok. If anyone has any questions about the facts of this hunt please feel free to call, email or dm me. 602-803-0223 jayscottoutdoors@gmail.com In my opinion this is a win for our state, the hunter, the 13 year old ram that was harvested that probably wouldn't have made it to summer, the ADBSS and future sheep hunters.

     

    One of the reasons we all like CWT.com is that we can come here to learn and converse with our fellow hunters. Lets not stoop to lows of other sites. God Bless and Merry Christmas!

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