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  1. Wtf did i just spend time reading. Homeboy passes, then gets passed and complains. If you take the lead in nascar, it doesnt mean the other cars cant pass you later on. Sounds like you drive fast and hike slow, maybe try reversing your strategy. If i run in to other hunters in my area, it motivates me to find a new spot. Throw a camp on your back and hike in. You wont have any more issues with other hunters.

    Correction... I was waved pass. Many places to hunt between here and there. Random chance we met on the same ridge line miles in. Other options to go from that point. They chose the one I was glassing. I chose the other option. I shall correct my ways, the race is on.


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    I was a backpacker long before I started hunting (4th season) and I used to nearly lose my cool and sometimes did, when hunters would block me from passing them on a trail. It didn't happen often, but those times still stand out to me. The culture hasn't changed for a percentage of hunters unfortunately. Boneheads assumed I was a hunter and just couldn't stand the thought that we were going to get 'their' animal. Just silly. More so now that I hunt even. What does it say about you as a hunter if you can't hack a couple people with the same interests as you, thinks the way you do, and enjoys the same country as you, from beating you to 'your' single spot? Fact of the matter; is that you BOTH actually have a lot in common and would very likely have a great conversation and have a wealth of knowledge to share with each other - IF you didn't let your ego get in the way, thereby turning you in to a 1st class, A1A butthead.

    I know a couple folks have pointed out that this thread is carrying on and is somewhat silly in nature. I agree. But there are few folks that could use the perspective and will maybe open to looking at things a little differently.

    If any of you see a lifted 2012 magnetic grey Tacoma with a Tule rack on top in your rear-view. Please let me through. Trust me. We're not going to be in the same spot unless you've got an overnight pack in your back seat. And if you do, we'll swap stories over whatever 80 proof liquid has made it into my Nalgene bottle. Meeting a fellow backpack hunter on the trail in or at the TH is the equivalent of the hunter's version of Match.com - in a strictly dude kinda way! lol

    Actually we were having a normal conversation. Which immediately ended by them declaring they were going "that way"... meaning where I was glassing. They immediately started walking and I was for lack of any other description dumb struck, watching them hike off.

     

    I think we all get your point and don't disagree with some aspects of what you're saying. Was there another way that those guys could have hiked that was within reason, say a 15-20min detour... that would have taken them around the hillside you were glassing? Realizing of course 'reasonable' is relative to each individual. But I wouldn't think twice about finding another relatively short route a bit out of my way and didn't take me through wicked scrub oak, wait-a-minute, or manzanita

     

    Yes there was and yes I took it.


  3. I was a backpacker long before I started hunting (4th season) and I used to nearly lose my cool and sometimes did, when hunters would block me from passing them on a trail. It didn't happen often, but those times still stand out to me. The culture hasn't changed for a percentage of hunters unfortunately. Boneheads assumed I was a hunter and just couldn't stand the thought that we were going to get 'their' animal. Just silly. More so now that I hunt even. What does it say about you as a hunter if you can't hack a couple people with the same interests as you, thinks the way you do, and enjoys the same country as you, from beating you to 'your' single spot? Fact of the matter; is that you BOTH actually have a lot in common and would very likely have a great conversation and have a wealth of knowledge to share with each other - IF you didn't let your ego get in the way, thereby turning you in to a 1st class, A1A butthead.

    I know a couple folks have pointed out that this thread is carrying on and is somewhat silly in nature. I agree. But there are few folks that could use the perspective and will maybe open to looking at things a little differently.

    If any of you see a lifted 2012 magnetic grey Tacoma with a Tule rack on top in your rear-view. Please let me through. Trust me. We're not going to be in the same spot unless you've got an overnight pack in your back seat. And if you do, we'll swap stories over whatever 80 proof liquid has made it into my Nalgene bottle. Meeting a fellow backpack hunter on the trail in or at the TH is the equivalent of the hunter's version of Match.com - in a strictly dude kinda way! lol

    Actually we were having a normal conversation. Which immediately ended by them declaring they were going "that way"... meaning where I was glassing. They immediately started walking and I was for lack of any other description dumb struck, watching them hike off.


  4. Respect? What are you guys talking about other than jumping to conclusions. I pulled behind them, they waved me past, they happened to walk the same ridge as I, we had small talk for about 30 seconds (see anything? Does. Yeah, us as well) and they said "we are going up there" which was exactly where I was glassing. That is the situation in a nut shell.


  5. Communication would have been better way back on the road in hindsight. However there were dozens of good hunting places between where I passed and where we met later on the mountain. Many places that are good and many other directions. We were a long way from the end of the road... miles.

     

    How slow can someone go and not let someone pass? I could have walked faster than they were driving. That could be a great technique, go in first and then have a friend drive very slow and hold up everyone else... what an idea! Kind of like a moving version of parking in front of a gate.

     

    All in all, better communication would have been better way back, I just didn't think of it given the many other options and places they could have been headed... eventually.

     

    And yes they did wave me past.


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    I looked at the situation from my point of view. I would never walk right in front of someone glassing and hike directly to where he was glassing. But that's just me I guess.

    What would have happened if somebody else was there before you? I can understand your irritation. I have been in the situation bow hunting where I had a deer tag and archery elk was going on at the same time. I was sitting in an old ground blind and saw two hunters walking in. When they saw me they were going to take off the other direction until I waved them over. I found out they were elk hunting and I was deer hunting. I offered to share the blind with them if they wanted but I got first shot at a deer. They chose to go to a different spot but appreciated the offer. This year I ran into them into a central area of the unit and we all had elk tags. They were hunting another part of the unit and we both ended up in the same area for a break. They told me of a wallow they found over the summer in the area I was hunting.

     

    The same blind the year before another hunter got there before me. He was older and from out of state, hard for him to do much walking as the steep hills were taking their toll on legs and lungs. I knew the tracks at this natural mineral lick were quite fresh so told him to hunt it and kill a big bull, I had other places I could hunt elk. The best part was he was guided and the guide tracked me down. He had a bunch of antelope jerky because his antelope clients didn't want the meat. I think I ended up with about 20 pounds of antelope jerky as a thank you.

     

    Not meaning to sound holier than thou or my ethics are better than anybody else's. We are hunters and need to get along. Public land hunting sucks if you let it. I love to eat wild game but I am at a point in my life where I have killed quite a bit and don't have to kill an animal to have had a great hunt.

     

    I already said what I would have done. I would not have walked directly into the area someone was glassing. They went in front of me, I went another way.


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    Rant: Headed down a long rough road to the parking area I was going hunting in. 1 Hour rough drive on quad. Passed a grandma speed polaris UTV about half way. Made it to the parking area, now an hour hike up and down hills to reach the good stuff... near the base of where it gets steep. I'm glassing what I can see before pushing on. Pushing on means only 1 good way to go. It's steep right, it's steep left. However go straight and it gets better then you can really see good country. 30 minutes of glassing I hear 2 guys coming up behind behind me. Yep... polaris guys. Small chat for a minute and they say well good luck... and walk directly in front of where I'm glassing and into the area I'm working into. Is it just me was that an a-hole move?

    next time go straight to the good spot.

     

    Sure... and blow out the deer between where I was and there. By the way, this wasn't a "trail"... the trail branches off about 1/2 mile back. This was a ridge line. I just wouldn't have done what they did.

     

    A ridge line is a trail, you yourself said it was impassible/ extreamly rough on both sides. now you expect then to walk 1/2 mile back to go another route.

     

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    they coudl be saying, you know we were driving alon at our own pass and this guy passed us hauling butt right in front of us scaring everything away

     

    Sure thing boss... scaring everything away that was 1/2 hour down a rough road then 1 hour hike down a ridge line. Glad I have more ethics than you. We'll have to simply disagree on ethics. I'm done. I simply don't agree on playing leap frog with another hunter. There was another way to go and I did, they didn't. Enough said. Enjoy your hunts.


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    Rant: Headed down a long rough road to the parking area I was going hunting in. 1 Hour rough drive on quad. Passed a grandma speed polaris UTV about half way. Made it to the parking area, now an hour hike up and down hills to reach the good stuff... near the base of where it gets steep. I'm glassing what I can see before pushing on. Pushing on means only 1 good way to go. It's steep right, it's steep left. However go straight and it gets better then you can really see good country. 30 minutes of glassing I hear 2 guys coming up behind behind me. Yep... polaris guys. Small chat for a minute and they say well good luck... and walk directly in front of where I'm glassing and into the area I'm working into. Is it just me was that an a-hole move?

    next time go straight to the good spot.

     

    Sure... and blow out the deer between where I was and there. By the way, this wasn't a "trail"... the trail branches off about 1/2 mile back. This was a ridge line. I just wouldn't have done what they did.


  9. You passed them on a dead end road, they passed you on the trail. No harm no foul.

    More than one way to go from that trail head. I could have sipped coffee with one hand and walked faster than they were driving. Should I just stay behind them? I guess I look at it as "what would I do"? Me... I'd back track and go the other way. Which is what I did. Then I posted a rant.

     

    Have you ever literally walked in front of the binocs of a person glassing?


  10. Rant: Headed down a long rough road to the parking area I was going hunting in. 1 Hour rough drive on quad. Passed a grandma speed polaris UTV about half way. Made it to the parking area, now an hour hike up and down hills to reach the good stuff... near the base of where it gets steep. I'm glassing what I can see before pushing on. Pushing on means only 1 good way to go. It's steep right, it's steep left. However go straight and it gets better then you can really see good country. 30 minutes of glassing I hear 2 guys coming up behind behind me. Yep... polaris guys. Small chat for a minute and they say well good luck... and walk directly in front of where I'm glassing and into the area I'm working into. Is it just me was that an a-hole move?


  11. I live North of Payson and don't often travel to the Valley. But I am thinking about driving down to attend this so I can listen in to the BS that gets spouted.

    Does any one know if there is a petition that can be signed that is in opposition to the AZ for wild life campaign bill? I would certainly sign it as i am sure many members on the forum would.

    Perhaps some of the members of this forum would like to plan an event where food is served, donations given and whatever type of petition is needed would be there to sign if you so desire.

    I fear there are not many years left to hunt lions and bobcats the way things are going.

    Until the cat attacks rise.


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    Grijalva, and that scumbag from Illinois, sat down in the roadway in front of Trump tower, and refused to move. All 3 congressmen were arrested. They were demanding that Congress pass the Dream Act.

     

     

    When are sitting in the street you are not a protester. You are a speed bump

     

    Vroom Vroom... challenge accepted.

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