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    Flagstaff, AZ
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    Hiking, camping with my family, hunting, fishing (espeically fly fishing), fire ecology, wildlife photography, reloading, archery

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  1. IA Born

    Hoyt Ruckus: SOLD

    SOLD. Thanks, Ken!
  2. IA Born

    RV water and dump in Flagstaff

    I think you should revisit your elementary English teacher before you start talking trash to me, buddy. And I'll gladly use my garden hose on you...I mean you're welcome to fill up your fresh tank. I think. Maybe I mean the former...
  3. IA Born

    RV water and dump in Flagstaff

    I got your back, buddy!
  4. IA Born

    RV water and dump in Flagstaff

    I thought I'd head that the Conoco at Butler/I-40 stopped that. There is a KOA on 89A heading north out of town, Kit Karson RV Park, and Black Bart's RV Park that may be able to help you. I've never inquired there because I make the family use a shovel and we fill fresh water here at the house. Tim, if you get in a bind and need fresh water, give me a shout. Can't help you with the black water dump, but I can get you fresh water under the "I consider you a friend" special!
  5. IA Born

    Hoyt Ruckus: SOLD

    Bow is sold!
  6. IA Born

    Gould's success!

    I keep telling myself I'm heading back to 35A to chase coues after spending last turkey season down there. We had a pair of bruisers walk across the road in front of us one evening.
  7. IA Born

    Commisstioner's Turkey Tag Raffle

    Its that time again. We have our deck of cards for a chance at a Commissioner's Turkey Tag. This tag is good for 365 days in any open unit in Arizona. That includes the Merriams, Goulds, and Rio Grande units. Cards are $20 each and the drawing will be August 3, 2019 at the Sierra Vista Goulds NWTF Chapter Banquet. Second place is a Savage Axis II in 6.5 CM. We're working on getting this raffle up on our chapter website, but if you're interested in getting cards, PM me and we'll make it happen. I only have 25 cards left in our deck.
  8. IA Born

    Gould's success!

    Great job and congrats, Tommy!
  9. IA Born

    Rrrrrattle Rattle

    Forgot that one. Good catch! That's why most leading vets recommend Bennedryl to get the swelling down as fast as possible.
  10. IA Born

    Rrrrrattle Rattle

    Here is the picture of disintegrins working on a muscle fiber. The caption with the photo is: "A portion of a single muscle fiber (cell) with the amorphous and fibrous components of the plasma membrane being stripped away by the disintegrins present in the venom. The muscle cell is being stripped right down to, but with no damage to, the plasma membrane itself". All of that fuzzy stuff at the bottom of the muscle fiber (cellular level) is the plasma membrane/fascia being stripped away, rendering the muscle fiber useless.
  11. IA Born

    Rrrrrattle Rattle

    I'm not a bee expert, but my first question is what you mean by killer bees. Africanized bees are dangerous because they swarm in large numbers and attacks often result in 100s if not 1000s of stings. A colony of honey bees can do the same thing if provoked. As far as what their venom type is, that's out of my purview. Sorry, can't help. Most rattlesnakes in Arizona (US for that matter) have hemorrhagic toxin. Neurotoxins are not as common, as a whole, but prevalent among many species, including Mohaves, tigers, midget-faded in AZ (very limited distribution in AZ). Mohaves are tricky because they have a strong neurotoxin (Mohave toxin) throughout most of their range but, but also have individuals that have only hemorrahgic toxins. To complicate that, there is an area where individuals with each venom type overlap and possess both neurotoxin and hemorrhagic toxin. That was the subject of my research and I' happy to share my published paper of why some individuals have one, but not the other. Genetics, baby! Even among venomous snakes, in general, they can have many different proteins within the venom type, including different ones among different species and, even, within different individuals. My former immunology professor in grad school demonstrated 22 different variations of the neurotoxin of Mohave rattlesnakes, all based on the presence of various proteins. Some of those hemorrhagic toxins have 2 different proteins that each cause clotting and hemorrhaging in the same venom. Some proteins cleave off the antigen binding site, making antibodies (self-produced or from antivenin) rather useless. Other proteins (disintegrins) peel back cellular tissue layers like an onion. I have a cool scanning electron microscope of disintegrins peeling back the fascia of a group of muscle fibers, rendering those muscles useless. Happy to share that, too. By the way, when I hear "Killer Bees", this is where my mind races: In all of my years of venom research and talking to both venom researchers, ER doctors, and the AZ Poison Control (venom experts there, too), I've never seen any data supporting electroshock. There is no clinical data, to my knowledge, that demonstrates how electroshock counteracts the properties of those venom proteins. Exactly this. Its an expensive treatment that doesn't work effectively at all. I've had this discussion with my vets and several vet techs many times and its always the same. Get to an ER and pray for the best. It doesn't work very well because of the proteins in the venom that cleave off the antigen binding sites, preventing antibodies from attaching and being able to do their job. It won't work on humans for the same reason. Bill Haast, who used to run the Florida Serpentarium and handle all kinds of venomous snakes from around the world, used to give himself micro-injections of venom of several different kinds of snakes to build up immunity. This is the same way antivenim is produced when horses (formerly) and, now, goats are injected, building up the antibodies that are isolated for the antivenin serum. Despite Bill's efforts, he still had to make multiple trips to the ER for treatments after bites. I watched a documentary on him a couple of decades ago and it showed him using his wife's rose pruners to clip off the blackened, necrotic tip of his pinky finger after being bit. We had our two German shepherd avoidance trained when we lived in Tucson and I was still actively handling rattlesnakes while out hiking. It cost us $50 per dog and was the best money ever spent on that. A research buddy of mine showed up with a speck from Nevada on his way through town. He had it in a 5-gallon bucket. My dogs both came up, being the curious pups they were, stuck their noses over the edge of the bucket and immediately took off running. I was washing my truck, so my doors were open. I turned around to see them sitting side-by-side in the back seat looking out the back window with an "Up yours. We're staying here!" expression. When we'd find them on hikes, research adventures, they'd go find shade and hang out while we took care of business.
  12. IA Born

    FS: Scope

    Updated. Still have Simmons Aetec scope for sale. Price is $80 OBO shipped.
  13. IA Born

    Rrrrrattle Rattle

    I wish I could tell you it was a joke, but I've lost count how many times I've people tell me that's a legitimate treatment for rattlesnake bites. As soon as they heard I was a venom researcher, it was "I was always told that you just hook up your jumper cables and hit the bite site to neutralize the venom!" The scary part is that they were always dead serious. The ones who argued with me the most are the ones I quit trying to convince. Being a student of Darwin, I figured I'd let them weed out the gene pool themselves. And now you have me laughing again, too!
  14. IA Born

    Rrrrrattle Rattle

    The best thing you can do is get to a high point and get help via cell or SPOT/InReach, etc. Barring that option, the next best thing you can do is to stay calm (right?) and hike out as quickly as you can, while not getting your blood pumping too hard. I say that, because you don't want an increased blood flow moving the venom around any faster than necessary. There up to 43 different proteins in venom, ranging from hemorrhagic to necrotic to neurotoxic. If you carry a Sawyer extractor, they are in the category of "Might help a little, but won't hurt to try". Keep in mind that the "might" is emphasized for a reason. I have seen the data on them and they really aren't all that they're cracked up to be. When I have more time, I can indulge more about the success (lack thereof) rate when using those in trial studies. I can give you the "don't do" list much easier. Don't use a tourniquet; don't put ice on the bite site (or soak in ice); don't try to neutralize the venom by hooking your jumper cables to the car battery and shocking the bite site; don't have a friend try to suck the venom out either. Tourniquets and ice slow circulation and pool blood and, therefore, the venom proteins at the bite site. I've seen some nasty pictures of people missing fingers and having crazy-horrible necrosis at the bite site from tourniquets and ice. The "jumper cable" thing is a on old wives-tale. It does absolutely nothing to neutralize the venom and it simply shocks the piss out of you; nothing more. Having a friend (or you) try to suck the venom out is just as useless as the Sawyer Extractor (actually more so); if you or your friend is actually successful in getting the venom out (highly unlikely), then you will have active venom inside your mouth, which is porous and an easy inlet to your system, especially if you have bitten your lip or have an open sore/wound. Antihistamines may help with the swelling, but it won't do anything to counteract/neutralize the venom.
  15. IA Born

    5B Turkey

    Roads are open up there and the turkeys are plentiful. Good luck!
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