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  1. bowhunter4life

    Prayers and....

    Praying!!!!
  2. bowhunter4life

    Leftover list…

    Cause and effect of AZGFD paying people to promote out of state hunters, as the other topic showcased? Loss of 40-50% OTC deer tags........ May be last year of any deer left overs... Times are changing
  3. bowhunter4life

    G&F commission voted unanimously to ban trail cams

    Plus the first rounds of comments Trail Camera Summary January 1, 2021 to February 1, 2021 Oppose Proposed Ban: 1200 Support Proposed Ban: 833 Regulate Use of Trail Cameras (as indicated below - blue text): 442 Allow use for CHAMP Holders: 03 Allow Trail Cameras on Private Property: 14 Prohibit by Age: 02 Prohibit by Location: 27 Prohibit by Location and Limit/Regulate Trail Cameras: 30 Prohibit by Location and Species: 02 Prohibit by Location and Water: 07 Prohibit in Location and Regulate by Season: 05 Prohibit by Season: 83 Prohibit by Season and Limit/Regulate Trail Cameras: 10 Prohibit by Season and Regulate Guides: 04 Prohibit by Season and Sell Dept. Trail Camera Photo Subscriptions: 03 Prohibit by Season, Prohibit Distribution of Pictures, and Limit/Regulate Trail Cameras: 01 Prohibit by Water: 105 Prohibit by Water and Limit/Regulate Trail Cameras: 26 Prohibit by Water and Distribute Dept. Trail Camera Photos: 01 Prohibit by Water and Regulate by Season: 26 Prohibit by Water and Restrict Use to Tag Holders: 02 Register Limit/Regulate Trail Cameras: 35 Restrict Use to Tag Holders: 02 Limit/Regulate Guides: 51 Limit/Regulate Guides and Restrict Use to Tag Holders: 02 Limit/Regulate Guides by Season: 01 Conduct Education Campaign on Proper Use of Trail Cameras: 04 Pose Questions Regarding Proposed Ban: 09 Delay the Rulemaking and collect Data: 01 ********************** 254 duplicate comments were received. Duplicate means a person either submitted multiple comments or sent the same comment to multiple Department personnel during public comment period. Regardless of the number of separate comments a person submits, they are all considered to be one comment
  4. bowhunter4life

    G&F commission voted unanimously to ban trail cams

    This is the correct information 2nd round open comments- Total 1,845 public comments plus the One stakeholder who opposes any regulation of trail cameras submitted 6,172 one-page forms containing the same letter/text (opposing the proposal), Trail Camera Summary March 12, 2021 to April 12, 2021 Comments Sorted - 1,845 Oppose Proposed Rulemaking: 1,019 Support Proposed Rulemaking: 71 Regulate the Use of Trail Cameras in Some Manner (as indicated below - blue text): 571 Landowners Control Use of Trail Cameras: 01 Allow Use by CHAMP Holders/Disabled: 01 Allow Use by Tag Holders: 01 Allow Use of Trail Cameras for the Take of Predators: 01 Allow Use of Trail Cameras on Private Property and Prohibit on Water: 01 Conduct Education Campaign on Proper Use of Trail Cameras: 03 Delay Decision and Conduct More Research: 03 Expand Prohibition on Water to Include Natural Water Sources: 112 Limit Tags, Increase Number of Drink Tanks: 01 Limit Tags, Not Cameras: 06 Prohibit by Location Only: 14 Prohibit by Location and Register Trail Cameras: 03 Prohibit by Location, Season, and on Water: 01 Prohibit by Season Only: 24 Prohibit by Season and Register Trail Cameras: 03 Prohibit by Season, Regulate Guides, and Remove Water Locations from Recreational Map: 01 Prohibit by Species: 01 Prohibit Theft/Vandalism of Trail Cameras: 01 Prohibit on Water Only: 39 Prohibit on Water and Register Trail Cameras: 05 Prohibit on Water and Regulate Guides: 02 Prohibit on Water and Restrict SBGLT Holders by Season: 01 Prohibit on Water, Season, and Registration Process: 01 Prohibit Statewide (full ban): 260 Questions and Statements Regarding Proposed Ban: 19 Registration Process for Use of Trail Cameras: 19 Trail Camera Summary March 12, 2021 to April 12, 2021 Comments Sorted - 1,845 Regulate Guides Use of Trail Cameras: 16 Regulate Guides Use of Trail Cameras by Season: 02 Support Proposal with Modifications: 15 Support Season Oppose Water Prohibition: 08 Support Water Prohibition Oppose Season: 31 ********************** 160 duplicate comments were received. Duplicate comments are either multiple comments submitted by the same person or the same comment submitted to multiple Department personnel during the public comment period. Regardless of the number of separate comments a person submits, they are all considered to be one comment. One stakeholder who opposes any regulation of trail cameras submitted 6,172 one-page forms containing the same letter/text (opposing the proposal), but with a different computer generated name, city, and state.
  5. bowhunter4life

    G&F commission voted unanimously to ban trail cams

    Found this clip on YouTube breaking down the AZGFD 3 hour meeting AZGFD Trail Camera Ban 2021 | Arizona Trail Camera Ban | Commission Bans Trail Cameras - YouTube Also looks like fireworks in the making with a lawsuit... Fundraiser by Josiah Scott : Arizona Sportsmans Trail Cam Defense Fund (gofundme.com)
  6. bowhunter4life

    G&F commission voted unanimously to ban trail cams

    Never know with A3- but they continually have customers with the Commissioner tags that pay AZGFD hundreds of thousands of dollars- Maybe A3 bragging is correct on the 300 cameras to locate the shooter. But the biggest Bull or Mule deer is promoted by the department in the name of receiving huge $$$. Don't worry those cameras will still be out as new "outdoor enthusiast wildlife watchers" will now own them and share where those Commissioner tag shooters may live..... in the black market...... Nope- I had 3 tanks all to myself on the strip without a camera and not even close to 15 years ago. But then again I was happy with a 170 class buck with my bow- maybe they pulled them as the strip standard was not there? Do you really think hunters who do their homework before season cannot pattern a pronghorn, mule deer, coues, elk or javelina from watching them from a distance with a tripod and 15 power binos and be set up on opening morning and harvest them with a few days scouting before opening day? Have you really hunted Arizona or are you a new tag holder without much success as I call Bullsh** on your true hunting capabilities.... But I did get a message- you are a new member and employed by the AZGFD- True?
  7. bowhunter4life

    G&F commission voted unanimously to ban trail cams

    I completely disagree... Have you pre scouted before your hunt?? Ask any hunter who puts the time in to scout and show up a few days before the opening day. Sitting a mile a way glassing with their Binos and learning where they are in the morning, where they bed and where they end up during the evening. Once opening day hits- they are like clock work and have no chance to elude detection and will overwhelm them when the bullet hits them! Now throw in the new exciting long range shooting... These critters have zero chance to elude detection and will be harvested due to the diligence of hunters whom did their homework. 1300 cameras from the Strip, one outfitter.. really? I had the strip tag and hunted it (without an outfitter but with friends) and there is no way that is truth! I hunted numerous water sources without a camera on it!
  8. bowhunter4life

    G&F commission voted unanimously to ban trail cams

    This was a personal agenda based on their idea of fair chase...... AZGFD controls all tags, manages success rate of bowhunters (20% harvest of rifle hunters- season closes deer) - just look at all the closed units this year- harvest will always be roughly the same for all big game animals, as they issue and manage each year all tag allocations based on hunter success and unit conditions. Just look at the history over a time... For me the biggest disappointment and was truly disgusting as a Sportsman who values open minded discussions and conservation through the North American model. Witnessing each commissioner pull out and a read their pre-written statements of excuses why fair chase was needed to help wildlife and vote the complete ban of trail camera - Yuck!! Almost made made me throw up sitting there witnessing it. I lost all respect for the commission as the open public comment discussion was just a process and was on death ears and their facial expressions showed . Additionally, The Emergency rule to open the rule making to the Governor was requested to protect the lives of sportsman and fellow citizens. Not once did they address public safety. Looks like Sir Royal was correct- the trail camera ban was a self created political agenda..... What am I missing here..... All they talked about was Fair chase with the new definition. Its interesting as all technologies will guide in a quarry's ability to elude detection- What is overwhelmed mean?? Since I use my 15x 56 swaro and spot n stalk and harvest the javelina, deer or elk... looks like I am now guilty as the critter was not able to elude detection? I found it and went and harvested it with a valid tag....... Yup a bit frustrated.... Fair Chase is the ethical, sportsmanlike and lawful pursuit and taking of free-range wildlife in a manner that does not give a hunter or an angler improper or unfair advantage over such wildlife. Fair Chase has been embraced as the proper conduct of a sportsman/sportswoman in the field and has been taught to new hunters for more than a century. It pays respect to the traditions of hunting and angling by emphasizing the development of an individual’s skills rather than reliance on practices or technologies that overwhelm the quarry’s ability to elude detection or take. In many situations, Fair Chase is not something that is enforceable by law. Rather it should be guided by each person’s own ethical compass, which compels them to do the right thing when no one else is watching—even when doing the wrong thing is legal. AZGFD
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    TRAIL CAM BAN UPDATE 3/17/21

    The official report Ty E. Gray, Director FROM: Tom Finley, Deputy Director TF PRESENTER: Larry Phoenix, FOR2 Regional Supervisor TITLE: Request to Approve Notice of Final Rulemaking and Economic Impact Statement Amending Rules Within Article 3. Taking and Handling of Wildlife. DESCRIPTION: The Department will ask the Commission to vote to approve a Notice of Final Rulemaking and Economic Impact Statement amending rules within Article 3. Taking and Handling of Wildlife to regulate the use of trail cameras for the purpose of take. The Commission may vote to take action on and/or provide the Department direction on this item. DATE: June 2, 2021 The Commission proposes to amend rules within Article 3 addressing the taking and handling of wildlife to regulate the use of trail cameras for the purpose of taking or aiding in the take of wildlife. The Commission is considering regulating trail cameras as a result of concerns including: • The use of trail cameras as it relates to Fair Chase. o Commission Policy on Fair Chase includes: “…new or evolving technologies and practices that provide hunters or anglers with an improper or unfair advantage in the pursuit and taking of wildlife, or may create a public perception of an improper or unfair advantage…” The following criteria are used to evaluate whether a new technology or practice violates the Fair Chase ethic; does the technology or practice allow a hunter or angler to: locate or take wildlife without acquiring necessary hunting and angling skills or competency; pursue or take wildlife without being physically present and pursuing wildlife in the field; or almost guarantee the harvest of wildlife when the technology or practice prevents wildlife from eluding take. • The use of trail cameras has become an increasing source of conflict between and amongst hunters, including increased traffic by hunters checking cameras for future hunts, during the hunts of others. • Frequent visits to set and/or check trail cameras cause disturbance to wildlife, which may be exacerbated during extended dry periods of the year and during drought conditions. • Livestock operators are concerned that frequent visits to set and/or check trail cameras are negatively affecting livestock operations. • Invasion of privacy when trail cameras photograph other people in the field without permission. • The potential monetization of game cameras to include services to place, monitor, check and sell camera images, and if those services increase, the numbers of cameras and their use for take could dramatically increase. • Trail camera use has also been raised with the State Legislature and legislation has previously been introduced that has so far not advanced because the Commission maintains the authority to examine this issue through rulemaking. As the state population continues to grow, the number of cameras continue to steadily increase as do Arizona Game and Fish Commission Memo Re: Request to Approve Notice of Final Rulemaking Amending Rules Within Article 3. Page 2 concerns. The frequency and severity of these concerns is reasonably expected to continue to increase as technology advances, populations grow, and trail camera use continues to increase. At the December 2020 Commission Meeting, the Commission directed the Department to pursue rulemaking to prohibit the use of trail cameras for the purpose of taking or aiding in the take of wildlife, or locating wildlife for the purpose of taking or aiding in the take of wildlife. The public comment period ran from January 1 through February 1, 2021. Over 2,000 public comments were received in response to the proposed rulemaking, all of which were provided to the Commission for consideration. A summary of those comments are included in the State-wide Prohibition Notice of Final Rulemaking, which is attached for the Commission’s consideration. At the February 2021 Commission Meeting, the Commission directed the Department to pursue additional rulemaking to establish a seasonal prohibition on the use of trail cameras for the purpose of taking or aiding in the take of wildlife, or locating wildlife for the purpose of taking or aiding in the take of wildlife; and prohibit the use of trail cameras for the purpose of taking or aiding in the take of wildlife, or locating wildlife for the purpose of taking or aiding in the take of wildlife within one-fourth mile of a developed water source. The public comment period ran from March 12 through April 12, 2021. In addition to an advocate facilitated online petition that acquired over 6,000 signatures, over 1,800 public comments were received in response to the proposed rulemaking, all of which were provided to the Commission for consideration. A summary of those comments are included in the Seasonal/Developed Water Prohibition Notice of Final Rulemaking, which is attached for the Commission’s consideration. If approved by the Commission and in accordance with the exemption authorized by the Governor's Office, the Department will submit the selected final rulemaking package to the Governor’s Regulatory Review Council for review and placement on a future agenda. RECOMMENDATION: THE DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION VOTE TO APPROVE THE NOTICE OF FINAL RULEMAKING AND ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT AMENDING RULES WITHIN ARTICLE 3. TAKING AND HANDLING OF WILDLIFE TO ADOPT ONE OF THE TWO OPTIONS PRESENTED. TF:LP:cmc Attachments: State-wide Prohibition Notice of Final Rulemaking and Economic Impact Statement Seasonal/Developed Water Prohibition Notice of Final Rulemaking and Economic Impact Statement
  10. bowhunter4life

    NL pure 12x42's

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    Hunt proposal, more limited archery units

    Yes I did and I also put in for a public records request to obtain the statistical information.
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    Hunt proposal, more limited archery units

    I absolutely disagree with this proposal. Show me the unit by unit hunt success for the last 5 years. Number of archery hunters per unit and the number of deer harvested and by either mule or coues deer. We can start with only the proposed closed units. Without mandatory check in's as we have for bear or lion, everything is a best guess estimate. With increased and 10% of non resident archery hunters- what is the success rate between non resident and resident?
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    THE LIE Significant threat to public safety!

    HuntHarder- thanks- I would disagree with reducing the technology though. I'm a bowhunter and very seldom rifle hunt. But I have friends who use the most advance technology for their long range hunting. Even though I have no interest in it- I support them as they invest in it and can shoot 700-1000 yards and harvest coues deer with it. To me its a personal perspective and I should not have a negative influence if something should be removed without factual data supporting the ban- no matter what it is. As for trail cameras- I would say trail cameras are no way easier? I waited over a decade and did not hunt elk in my 30's waiting on one of the premium bull hunts plus the same amount of time for an archery strip tag. Being a solo hunter and a bit anti- outfitter. I invested in trail cameras as the strip was a 7 hour drive and the elk unit was 4 hours. The few trail cameras allowed me to learn the areas, by driving hundreds of miles of dirt roads during scouting and helped me make an educated decision on the areas to focus on (I was looking for higher considerations within areas that could not be glassed) Hoping to not have conflicts with the outfitters and clients. I ended up shooting the world smallest 2 point (meat buck) from the strip as my hunt came to a close. But the 2 weeks of chasing, stalking big mule deer is what made the whole trip. I did sit water about 5 or 6 days and never had a deer show up even though the camera showed them hitting every 3rd or 4th day. My elk hunt showed lots great bulls all summer long- I was so excited until Sept showed up and 90% of the big bulls vanished. So much for trail cameras.... But it was okay as I love to hunt elk on the ground chasing them- a hunt filled with incredible opportunity with my closest hunting buddies.
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    THE LIE Significant threat to public safety!

    That is an interesting point about finding the few thieves threads. Let's guess (as we have no factual data) we have 50 or so of them from the last 3-5 years and having hundreds of thousands of hunters and hundreds of thousands of non hunters throughout Arizona hunting, camping, exploring or enjoying the outdoors within the placed water hole camera locations year in and year out. So we are talking about (Guessing) .0001% potential conflict with hunters and others? Since when do we regulate when 99% or more of the outdoor users has no conflicts and do not care from either perspective? Additionally, do we know if the few conflict camera issues is throughout Arizona or is it in the few high profile units where the commissioner tags are searching for the 400" bull or the 200" mule deer?
  15. bowhunter4life

    TRAIL CAM BAN UPDATE 3/17/21

    I am still trying to figure out this letter to open the EM rule making back in October that is all over social media. Why has there not been any public outreach in the last year as related to "prevent a significant threat to the public health, peace, and safety." "increasing threat of breach of peace as social media surrounding the use of trail cameras indicate potential for violent confrontation between those who support their use and those opposed to such methods." If this was the case one would think the department would be making it a priority on social media, within the hunting regs, Facebook, Instagram, here on Coueswhitetail and all other outlets to address the imminent public safety safety concerns when trail cameras are placed on public lands prior to October 2020 and currently? All I know is something is missing for the public to be educated on? Maybe just as the incredible draw result issues we all just witnessed :+( - By the way my portal is still messed up too - uggggg but I do feel bad for them on the draw results as I know many of them as great people! Dear Mr. Podolak, The Arizona Game and Fish Department (Department) respectfully submits this letter requesting permission to initiate rulemaking to regulate the use of trail cameras for the purpose of taking, aiding in the take of wildlife, or locating wildlife for the purpose of taking or aiding in the take of wildlife. Under the guidance of our Assistant Attorneys General the Department requests permission to pursue rulemaking as authorized under Executive Order 2020-02 - 1(b), which allows an agency to promulgate a rule to prevent a significant threat to the public health, peace, and safety. The use of trail cameras pose an increasing threat of breach of peace as social media surrounding the use of trail cameras indicate potential for violent confrontation between those who support their use and those opposed to such methods. Encounters between these two groups have been more confrontational with those who oppose the use of trail cameras resorting to vandalism, and those who support the use of trail cameras having a sense of entitlement over the areas in which the trail cameras were placed. Violent conflict is likely to occur when those who oppose the use of trail cameras encounter someone while placing a trail camera. A rule under this exemption would prohibit the use of trail cameras for the purpose of taking or aiding in the take of wildlife, and locating wildlife for the purpose of taking or aiding in the take of wildlife. In an effort to comply with the requirements of Executive Order 2020-02(2), the Department recommends for consideration the following three rules for elimination: R12-4-111. Identification Number, R12-4-209. Community Fishing License; Exemption, and R12-4-214. Apprentice License. If you have any questions, please contact Celeste Cook at (623) 236-7390 or by email at ccook@azgfdgov. Sincerely, Ty E. Gray Director
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