bonecollector777

What's not logical about they can pick and choose what and what not to give a discount on?

No they wont

You know they don't have to give any sort of discount on anything right?

Results out!

But is it fluorite?

I've heard of guys getting phone calls and getting them if they were next in line.

Congrats. Didn't think there was any way he couldn't draw it. Glad the draw reports were right!

Ha easiest fix for them. Without any repurcussions.

I can certainly appreciate and agree with a lot of what you are saying, but I hope you are being sincere about the "coveted left over cow tag". Might not be a big deal to you, but to a young first time hunter (and many others) who have been waiting 10 years, it is the world. Not to mention that it is disrespectful to the animal to discount it like that.Whoever these kids parents were should have taken the draw more seriously and had their cards ready to go if their kids were so excited to hunt. I'm also pretty sure the cow doesn't give a damm whether you call it a coveted cow or a ugly cow or stupid cow or whatever you please. It's a cow elk for crying out loud. No I wasn't being sincere about the coveted leftover cow tag. A kid is still gonna get to hunt it so hopefully they appreciate it and have a good time. It's like 5 tags of several thousand cow tags so 99.9999999% of the tags got given to who it was supposed to. The leftover tags obviously didn't get picked for you guys because you would have gotten the tag since your cards are good. Think of it this way the tag didn't go to someone that obviously didn't care enough to have their card ready to go. Now it will go to someone excited about it in the leftover draw. And they get to keep their points! Doesn't get better than that.

The draw went as smooth as ever and everything was accurate. Just because you guys are trying to make it out to seem like something went wrong doesn't mean it did. I had nieces and nephews in for these same hunts and Noones upset about it. They followed their draw rules even if we don't agree with them.

So sounds like your kids didn't deserve the tags. They simply stopped trying to charge cards after the second guy got rejected. If that's the rule they had in place they did nothing wrong. I'd imagine in the next draws they will set it up to keep charging until the tag is given away. Now everyone go put your kids in for that coveted leftover cow tag. Gonna have worse odds than a sheep tag when its all said and done.

I read guys losing their minds, figured there was gonna be like 100 leftover tags per unit. I look, 1 tag. Lmao It is hilarious until your kid put in for that hunt as a first or second choice and were instead given a bonus point. Not saying it was my daughter who would have gotten that tag, but there is no good excuse for there to be a "left-over" tag if someone who put in for it didn't draw. It this case it is probably well over 1000 that put in for most of these and didn't get drawn. even if they decide to figure out who deserved the tag next in line all of your kids are still gonna get a bonus point and the one kid is gonna get a tag. Only difference is this way whichever kid ends up getting it doesn't have to use points to get it.

An error on the list is definitely a possibility and I would definitely feel better about that than a draw error. But the concern about the leftovers isnt about a handful of medium quality cow tags. Its the shadow it casts on the whole process. Because if they are using the process as they describe it, and the statistical data they provide is accurate, then something is not right. That leads me to ask are they following the process they have prescribed and by statute are required to follow? And are they publishing accurate data? Personally, I believe the data for the most part is accurate. So then what is going on with the process? And is there a QA QC strategy? A few years ago the auditor general for the state did a comprehensive review of the Dept and one of his major recommendations was to provide more checks and balances in the draw. I wonder if that is happening? I've said the game and fish can do what they want with the draw (give tags to whoever they please in exchange for info, among other things) for years and everyone said I was crazy and Noone would ever do such a thing. There's never been anyone to check that system and how it works. But I didn't need a couple messed up cow tag leftovers to tell me that. I just think in this case the list was messed up. It's just such a stupid mess up its hard to believe. But what I do know is we will never know because all they are gonna do is say oh sorry just a glitch and those tags aren't available for leftovers now. No way they offer to go back into the draw and see if it was messed up if it really was.

most of those issues are due to something each individual messed up on. If everything doesn't match with your app and portal whether it's email, phone, address, ss# it won't transfer their stuff over. If they are worried about it call 6029423000 and check results and they will know if they were in the draw or not.

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Just gonna throw this out there maybe the draw was correct and they just messed up on the leftover list. But everyone losing their minds to try and hang game and fish over one leftover tag in unit 1 and 4a is kind of crazy.

It's a little different if you're talking 3c. They split the hunts up this year

Are you non resident? Also several units have two hunts for cow at different times make sure it's not a different hunt. Or you didn't put in for what you thought you did. Sometimes the nr 10% quota gets met and they can't give nr a tag after that even if there are no residents to take it.

Anyone that applied for sure and their portal is saying you didn't or doesn't recognize your info you entered something wrong when making your portal.

I was in for archery only. Put in for 10 and 4b and had 8 points. Time will tell!Pretty close to bonus pass for 4b. I'd bet 4b.No, Im talking about for the lope hunt, not elk. The draw odds are worse for 4b, than 10. But, Im guessing I got the 4b tag. Fine with me! Unit 10 can be kind of a zoo.my bad! Fun hunt either way.

1 more week!I sure hope not. I dont think there have been any new hits today. Hopefully they start posting those babies up.Seems like always on the Tuesday a week and half later after charges is when they have results posted. Noone in the family drew so I hope it's a month til results kidding have a few friends that drew that I'll be helping so want to see where we will be.Man theyre lucky dudes!Ha! Wonder who they could be.

Pretty sure that's whats happening right now.

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