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I don't know about everyone else but I've never been completely satisfied with our current scoring methods. There are two reasons why I don't fully agree with these methods one reasons is spread. Don't get me wrong I love the look of a nice wide buck but I like a very tall buck just as much or even better. A tall buck can be just as impressive as a wide buck especially from the side but yet when it comes to score these impressive looking tall boys don't get any credit for growing their rack upwards like the wide boys do when growing their rack outward. In my opinion anytime you can have two bucks with the exact same bone mass and tine length score differently just because one grew outward instead of upward then something just isn't quite right with that method of scoring. The other reason I won't ever be able to fully agree the our current antler scoring systems is tine mass has no effect on score. A good example of this is the Titus bull that Candice Hogan shot. If you haven't seen this bull yet do yourself a favor and Google it. The bull has absolutely insane tine mass but under the current scoring systems this incredible tine mass has no effect on score what so ever. Are you kidding me! All that extra bone the bull grew with nothing to show for it score wise but yet he got 30-40 inches for air. It just doesn't sit well with me that this bull didn't get any score for his impressive tine mass. So after testing out numerous different methods I think I found a method that easily fixes these issues I have and I feel that this new method is an improvement over the scoring systems currently being used for elk and deer. Here's how you do it. Score your buck or bull as you normally would but leave out the spread measurement. If you already know the score whether it be B&C, P&Y or SCI just subtract the width measurement from that score. Next measure the smallest circumference located between the base and the mid-point of the tine for all typical points. Lets say your buck has a 10 inch G2 for example. Well we all know half of 10 is 5 so you would measure 5 inches down from the tip of the G2 and this will give you the location of the g2's midpoint. You would then find the smallest circumference located between the midpoint and the base of the G2. This measurement will be the tine mass measurement for the G2. Repeat this process on all the typical points and add them up to get your total tine mass score. A typical 6x6 bull will have 5 tine mass measurements per side, a typical 4x4 muley with eye guards will have 4 tine mass measurement per side and a typical 3x3 coues will have 3 tine mass measurements per side. Once you get your total tine mass score you just simply add it to your previous score minus the spread measurement and your done. It's quite simple really. I don't have very many racks to measure but from the few I've measured there really hasn't been that much difference between the two scores. The racks I've scored using this new method have been a 101 7/8 B&C 3x3 coues that scored 98 4/8 using this new method. A 74 4/8 B&C 3x3 coues that scored 72 6/8 using the new method. A 130 B&C 3x4 muley that scored 129 new method. A 132 7/8 B&C 3x3 muley that scored 126 with the new method. Lastly a 6x6 305 bull that scored 307 1/8 using the new method. Like I mentioned earlier I haven't found much difference between the two methods so far but to be fair I have yet to score a really wide or a really heavy tined rack. This is where I feel the biggest difference will be seen using this new method. I was hoping some of you guys would be willing to take the time and measure some of your current bucks or bulls using this new method and post your results and/or opinions. Especially if you happen to have some really wide or heavy tined racks. I also think this new method will work better for accurately scoring sheds because you don't have to make a guesstimate on the spread. So what do you guys think?