ctafoya Report post Posted May 27, 2022 From the link above. Doesn't seem like this happened in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctafoya Report post Posted May 27, 2022 While Department of Public Safety officials initially said the gunman, Salvador Ramos, was confronted by an armed officer outside the school, those same authorities denied that version of events at a press conference Thursday. The Wall Street Journal reported that the gunman fired shots for 12 minutes after crashing his truck outside the school before walking in “unobstructed.” Police arrived on scene four minutes later “and exchanged gunfire with Ramos, who locked himself in a fourth-grade classroom.” Cheap Car Rentals From $7.95 - We Save You Up to 70% on Cars Ad Ad www.save70.com/special-deals According to the story, it was around 12:40 p.m.—about an hour later—when a Border Patrol tactical team entered the school, and then the classroom, and killed the gunman. In that time, parent Angeli Rose Gomez said she was handcuffed by U.S. Marshals outside the school, was later freed, hopped a fence, went into the school, grabbed her children, and fled. Videos from that time show frustrated and frantic parents urging officers to act. “The police were doing nothing,” Gomez told the Journal. “They were just standing outside the fence. They weren’t going in there or running anywhere.” Victor Escalon, a DPS official, said Thursday that officers called “everyone that’s in the area” to help. They then waited on “specialty equipment” and body armor. And so on Thursday, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer had some pressing questions for Texas DPS Lt. Chris Olivarez. “Don’t current best practices, Lieutenant, call for officers to disable a shooter as quickly as possible, regardless of how many officers are actually on site?” Blitzer asked. “Correct,” Olivarez replied. “In the active shooter situation, you want to stop the killing, you want to preserve life. But also one thing that, of course, the American people need to understand is that officers are making entry into this building. They do not know where the gunman is. They are hearing gunshots. They are receiving gunshots,” Olivarez said. “At that point, if they proceeded any further not knowing where the suspect was at, they could’ve been shot, they could’ve been killed, and at that point that gunman would have had an opportunity to kill other people inside that school,” he continued. “So they were able to contain that gunman inside that classroom so that he was not able to go to any other portions of the school to commit any other killings.” Blitzer also asked Olivarez why authorities initially claimed an armed officer confronted the shooter outside the school. “So that’s information that we received early on in this investigation,” he responded. “That goes back to what I mentioned earlier by trying to corroborate all this information by getting factual statements from these witnesses,” he added. “The Texas Rangers are now conducting interviews with those officers trying to establish exactly what was their role, and that will help us establish a more factual, concrete timeline.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZBIG10 Report post Posted May 27, 2022 Respect to the BP agents that were there that day. I pray for all that we’re involved in this incident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThomC Report post Posted May 27, 2022 You must remember this is a little town. Nothing ever happens so doors are not locked, officers are not trained or equipped, and have little experience. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsotm Report post Posted May 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, ThomC said: You must remember this is a little town. Nothing ever happens so doors are not locked, officers are not trained or equipped, and have little experience. And it's starting to sound like those officers were cowards as well. Not sure how they can live with themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Report post Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, ThomC said: You must remember this is a little town. Nothing ever happens so doors are not locked, officers are not trained or equipped, and have little experience. **on top of what’s shown below, Uvalde's police/SWAT make up 40% of the entire municipal budget. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZAV8ER Report post Posted May 27, 2022 14 hours ago, Ohthatguy said: Gun was used in mass shooting Families sued gun maker Families got paid 70M Guess it all depends on what you consider a win... As was presented in this case a "win" implied that the plaintiffs prevailed in court and received a judgment in their favor that validated their claim. The plaintiffs did not "win" their court case, they took money to go away. Yep they got the $$$ but their claim of culpability was not validated. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Non-Typical Solutions Report post Posted May 27, 2022 Latest I read states that the shooter was arrested in 2018 for threatening to shoot the school up. Current two kids in Az that were arrested for threatening to shoot a school up yesterday. Cottonwood and Prestcott valley..........................we aren't gonna get in front of mental health fast enough, fastest fix is to protect our campuses until better proactive solutions can be installed...........fencing, detectors, trained personnel, etc............. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckster Report post Posted May 27, 2022 $40 billion and counting to Ukraine. All the money congress wastes and not a dime to consider for school protection. Nothing but corrupt clowns running a transnational criminal money laundering cartel. We could do better on our own, but 'they' won't let us. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eddielasvegas Report post Posted May 27, 2022 It seems the cops were not doing their jobs by any standard one wants to use. I love the excuse displayed below the LEO in the below screenshot. Inexcusable lack of action when you sign up for the job. Eddie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThomC Report post Posted May 27, 2022 The calls were coming from another classroom. The shooter had most likely killed the people in the classroom and was shooting at the door. The school commander was thrown under the bus by the DPS head. The teacher that put the rock in the door for her own connivence should be hung. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsotm Report post Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, ThomC said: The teacher that put the rock in the door for her own connivence should be hung. Along with a lot of the officers who refused to do the right thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrustratedMonk Report post Posted May 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, dsotm said: Along with a lot of the officers who refused to do the right thing Wonder if they could prosecute the teacher for involuntary manslaughter... As far as the cops are concerned, won't happen as they have no duty to protect (other than those who are in their custody). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eddielasvegas Report post Posted May 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, FrustratedMonk said: ...As far as the cops are concerned, won't happen as they have no duty to protect (other than those who are in their custody). As effed up as it is, THIS, I believe, is the case that makes FM's statement true. All the way to the SCOTUS. THIS case proceeded the above case and was the first case (I believe) affirming that police are under no duty to protect. You for yourself and your loved ones, and your loved ones for you and them, are your own first responders. Be careful out there... Eddie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted May 27, 2022 Did anyone see the Twitter post by Antonio Arellano stating that calling BP to the scene was racist and traumatizing to the parents? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
