UggRedBilly Report post Posted January 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Bucks N Bulls said: I have had a tc for years and it has been great. This year i bought the cva paramount htr in 40 cal. I really like it alot. Groups well and is fast and accurate. I have shot it out to 500 yards. It is proven to shoot further but my max is 500 even with my rifles. I use triple 7 and pyrodex ellets both in my tc and This one i only use blackhorn and very happy with it. I was looking at those a lot too. After doing all the math for getting gear with a new muzzy it seems a little expensive for me now. I'll still probably go with the cva optima first just to learn and do a few hunts. But then if I feel it nessesary after a few times I'll make the switch the the Paramount or whenever seems to be better at that time frame! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Markleo21377 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, UggRedBilly said: I was looking at those a lot too. After doing all the math for getting gear with a new muzzy it seems a little expensive for me now. I'll still probably go with the cva optima first just to learn and do a few hunts. But then if I feel it nessesary after a few times I'll make the switch the the Paramount or whenever seems to be better at that time frame! If you want a great midrange gun I have mine that I am going to sell since switching to CVA paramount. Traditions strike fire with Cabelas slug master scope. Shoots really well to 200 yards and has 3 az bulls under its belt. Paid $500 for gun and scope. Will sell for $350 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UggRedBilly Report post Posted January 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Markleo21377 said: If you want a great midrange gun I have mine that I am going to sell since switching to CVA paramount. Traditions strike fire with Cabelas slug master scope. Shoots really well to 200 yards and has 3 az bulls under its belt. Paid $500 for gun and scope. Will sell for $350 Wow! I'll have to take you up on that. I am bout to post my 7 mag and probably ruger 10/22 on classifids so I can buy a muzzy. Unless you wanna trade of course. But once I get the cash I'll be sure to send a PM! Thank you for the offer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Markleo21377 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 31 minutes ago, UggRedBilly said: Wow! I'll have to take you up on that. I am bout to post my 7 mag and probably ruger 10/22 on classifids so I can buy a muzzy. Unless you wanna trade of course. But once I get the cash I'll be sure to send a PM! Thank you for the offer Not interested in any trades but send me a PM when you are ready. I’m not in a hurry. thx,Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UggRedBilly Report post Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, Markleo21377 said: Not interested in any trades but send me a PM when you are ready. I’m not in a hurry. thx,Mark People are buying my stuff today it looks like. Imma spend the night doing some research on the gun since I haven't heard of it. I'll get back to ya via PM tomorrow. Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Markleo21377 Report post Posted January 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, UggRedBilly said: People are buying my stuff today it looks like. Imma spend the night doing some research on the gun since I haven't heard of it. I'll get back to ya via PM tomorrow. Thank you Traditions Vortex Strikefire is exact make and model Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UggRedBilly Report post Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Markleo21377 said: Traditions Vortex Strikefire is exact make and model Sweet. Thank you very much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOTAGS Report post Posted January 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Bucks N Bulls said: Who said anything about shooting a bull at 500 yards? I did shoot a deer with this at 450 and it was plenty. The 40 cal with a 125 gr is over 2700 ft per second. And yep i would certainly shoot a bull at 500 with my 7mm and my 300 mag. Get real dude! This is under elk hunting, dude! Title, muzzleloader information for beginners…. No one was talking about a 7mm or 300 mag, dude! Pay attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucks N Bulls Report post Posted January 26, 2023 26 minutes ago, NOTAGS said: This is under elk hunting, dude! Title, muzzleloader information for beginners…. No one was talking about a 7mm or 300 mag, dude! Pay attention. No one asked about shootin bulls at 500 yards either but you chimed in about nothing he asked about dude! Get a life life dude! So why don't you pay attn dude! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucks N Bulls Report post Posted January 26, 2023 Uggredbilly sorry to derail your thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazymonkey Report post Posted January 26, 2023 Per powerbelt the elr in 45 cal is designed to work out to 500 yds on game animals. I'm currently not sure what my gun is running for speed to calculate the drop and energy out that far as a buddy is going to use it for his up and coming 22 ham pig hunt .When he is done in a few weeks and I get the gun back and can run it over the chronograph I'll put up the speed and drop and energy that it gets out to 500 per the strelok app. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UggRedBilly Report post Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Crazymonkey said: Per powerbelt the elr in 45 cal is designed to work out to 500 yds on game animals. I'm currently not sure what my gun is running for speed to calculate the drop and energy out that far as a buddy is going to use it for his up and coming 22 ham pig hunt .When he is done in a few weeks and I get the gun back and can run it over the chronograph I'll put up the speed and drop and energy that it gets out to 500 per the strelok app. That's freaking insane. What kinda groups do you get at 500? What do you look for in muzzy groups? Usually in rifle I'll try to keep groups within an inch every 100 yards. Would muzzy expectations be the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazymonkey Report post Posted January 26, 2023 My buddy was shooting 1 moa at a hundred yds .I've shot it to 2 hundred and it will hold just over moa. I want to run full bore bullets like the arrow head or pittman as they say the skirt on the powerbelt has a negative effect on accuracy. That was the problem with some of the 45 cal optimas and accura models. The skirt had varying thickness and would screw up the bullet flight. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazymonkey Report post Posted January 26, 2023 I'm in gilbert and shoot at Rio Salado .My buddy will have my gun for a few weeks for his ham hunt .But when I do get it back I could meet you at the range and you could give it a try for yourself it's an impressive gun for what it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UggRedBilly Report post Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Crazymonkey said: I'm in gilbert and shoot at Rio Salado .My buddy will have my gun for a few weeks for his ham hunt .But when I do get it back I could meet you at the range and you could give it a try for yourself it's an impressive gun for what it is. I am in the Gilbert area as well. I plan on buying an optima because after all the gear it seems a but cheaper. But if possible I would like to learn from you when I do get everything I need. I can pay you as well too for your time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
