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They need to stop wasting money on all the school administrators ... Far too many earning far too much .... What ever happened to all the trust money If I recall 500 million to a billion that was suppose to flood into schools between 2001 and 2011 after voted on in 2000 ( I think it was prop 300 or 301 ) ... From my understanding very little made it as far down as teachers and students...

Bashing Each other is all in good fun ( I get good laughs at the BS thrown my way) , Then some mangina from a facebook club throws a tantrum and we all have to behave again... I guess some people really do take to heart what others, whom do not even know them, say. anyone remember the old saying about Sticks and Stones ? Welcome to the new generation and the old timers who want to join them.

Been able to get on some crappie at saguaro lake the last couple trips caught a couple dozen Nice Blacks ... Several in the 2lb range .... Really wish we Would hear good from San Carlos.... miss the days of 40 plus fish drifting and trolling .

Ghost what did he gross out at ... 390 or 410

The bull in my avatar must only be 360 then No yours is actually a big elk. Id say in the 390-410 range. The pic here is deceiving. Look at the size and length of his head compared to the antlers. Yes his 3rds are very long which is why i put him at 340 instead of 325-330. I bet his mains are not evn 50". Probably only 45" mains. The right side 4th in his pic is only 14" or so. Left side bigger. Just my opinion That is what I was looking at and maybe the poor pic is a little deceiving but I was figuring those main beams at 44 - 45 inches ....may have about 24 - 25 inches of mass on each side ( not close to 30 IMO) and the g3's are probably closer to 18 maybe 20 ( not much curl on them at all) but with lacking g4's .... When I said 120ish I was figuring high 120's and possibly up to mid 130's which was stated .. but unless he finds the sheds or it hits the ground we are just speculating anyway .... Unlike Ghosts pic where you can judge a little more figuring low to mid 380's ... big difference between the two IMO ...

Someone with a Wall Tent did not get drawn , Right !

I do not know of a Local place ... Outdoosgeek.com I believe, ships for rental but at the cost you may be able to rent a pop up .... I know there was a place in Scottsdale that rented like the jumping Jack setups for around 50 - 60 a night .. but would have to get back with you on the name when I am home. or you could find lodging in Young or Heber

I would pay double that if every dollar went to gaining us Better access and it did " I Support Hunter's access" As it is, I see no additional value , unless they can show every dollar spent is towards improving and maintaining our Big Game Herds, something I doubt they could or will do ... I would hate to think of those funds being shoved into the same account as the rest and programs not directly related to improving the quality of hunting in state getting increases in their budgets... Not enough Transparency as it stands and a Lot of money wasted IMO ...

Put him down and measure him for us!! Everyone is getting sucked in on his g3's which are impressive in length but I am not seeing much in mass for any of the tines much less his main beams(which look to be lacking in length as you stated) ... I still think somewhere in the 320's and 335 would be on the high side but going over that seems a stretch .... Seen a lot of Bulls guys said were 350 plus that went at or under 320 when they hit the Dirt.

Not a lot in the pic to use as gauge ... Looking at main beams and mass I would venture 320ish

Unless they have really upgraded the map.. IT Sucks IMO ! You would be better off Downloading the onXmaps HUNT map for AZ and using it with Basecamp for Garmin. What other services are gained by Joining other than the enhanced map?

Big Buddy Works Better

Would it be too much of a stretch, that according to the OP's post and Tag numbers that he and his buddy were issued some of the additional tags due to the mistake with the draw... If that is the case and he is so passionate about the number of tags in the unit, IMO the only right thing to do would be to forfeit their tags for the sake of conservation and to not screw the guys that drew tags 1 - 4

Keep one or two if you want dinner ... Do not listen to all these other people who make you out to be hurting the brown trout population .... While I may not take a limit of browns from a stream I sure would not worry about having one for dinner.

Awesome Job heck of a Nice 3 .... Should be interesting to see if you can find him This year and how wide and big he will be

BowHuntAZ ... This is not a state or city run business ... It is a Business Ran by a Non For Profit Foundation that started in the late 50 or 60's

It is an App bonus point the average of all Applicants ... Which does get abused a little ... Say wifey has bought bonus points for 10 years and has her Loyalty and Hunters Ed for a total of 12 .. and Pappa got drawn last year but has his Hunters Ed and Loyalty ... This year he does a 2 person App With Mamma and it is 12 + 2 divided by 2 ... Both Have 7 bonus points .... Now with the new surrender program , Say they get drawn ... Mamma Surrenders her tag now has 13 BP ... and Next year Pappa puts in with her now they both have 8 ( 13 + 2 / 2 = 7.5 .. the .5 is rounded up to 8 ).. But if drawn Mamma can not surrender again

When he was talking about scratches from a couple creosote trees I couldn't help to think " Why all the Fuss ? " My grandma made us pick our own creosote limbs that were to be used as our switch when we misbehaved ... Lord how the World has Changed!

In the works. Not looking to sue anyone, well at least not me but then again my kid was not in back where myself and another guy were rescuing kids. Just looking for some safety practices to be put in place for future paying customers of that death trap. Side note, We also did not see 1 rattlesnake warning sign out there which was very suprising at a place that caters to tourists and elementary schools. I am all for trying to fix something that is wrong and make sure it does not happen again, but anyone who lawyers up over a bumpy ride with a few minor scratches IMO would be the very representation of what is wrong with this country... This is Arizona WTH do there need to be rattle snake warning signs? My kids have been aware of watching for rattle snakes since before they were in school, not to mention I would think Teachers and Chaperones would be doing their jobs and making the students aware of all possible dangers including rattle snakes.

My question is why are you doing this yourself ? Why are not all the parents along with the school taking action ? If it is the Pioneer Living History Museum on Pioneer Road in Phoenix .. a simple lookup shows it is part of the a Non - profit .... http://www.nonprofitfacts.com/AZ/Pioneer-Arizona-Foundation.html .... I would think the school has the means to facilitate action on behalf of parents and students ....

Optima Batteries are good But The only thing that really matters is the Reserve capacity of the Deep Cycle , The Draw of you Trolling Motor and How you are using your trolling Motor ... If you are trolling a lot and dealing with waves and wind an Optima will drain just as quick as Other deep cycles. The main things to think about ... Make sure you use Marine batteries ... Built to take the vibrations and abuse of running a rough lake. Two Deep Cycles For those who Troll a Lot with separate Starting Battery Good Trolling Motor 12/24 or 24 volt Newer digital Trolling motors are way more efficient and get you more out of your batteries DC alternator Charging system So running your Outboard keeps all batteries charging and topped off Maintaining and charging At home and off the lake via traditional charging ( an on-board AC charging system makes this easier as well) A good Emergency Jump pack ( just in case )

Happens with every Draw ... Tends to be a little more so for Elk and Antelope !

Price dropped to $ 150 ... She would really like to sell it SO if you know anyone

If any one is looking or knows another looking for a campsite for Country thunder, my daughter is selling one of hers due to a change in plans. It is in Encore section C ( family friendly camping) price dropped to $150 ... Does not Come With Rights Shoot me a message Will honor in order that Messages ( not Posts ) are received.

Here you go ... http://www.amazon.com/MinnKota-MK-3-DC-Triple-Alternator-Charger/dp/B001PTHKK8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1459958902&sr=8-2&keywords=marine+dc+charger#Ask They also make a 2 bank for a little less ... If you run with your outboard enough between trolling spots it will keep them up around 100% ... As coues32 said I would get a second battery for trolling as well.... We also carry on the boat with us a Noco jump pack, just incase for emergency starting of outboard.