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Muley !!!! If they spook away and Pogo you now 100% it is a Mule deer.

Awesome Bird ... hate seeing your camp torn up in the snow like that, but as least it is in prep for another good Hunt ... Good luck up there !

Wait .. You are sitting in your truck more than a 1/4 mile from a Known Roost (not sure if your implication means known by many and/or all) and you are going to complain about a guy wanting to push out in an area where you are just sitting? It seems if he came up to you and asked , you did have an opportunity to direct some of how things may have gone down. How Many Square miles Does one reserve for themselves while sitting in a truck ( not really hunting ) ? I know if I have an area picked out, show up, and a couple guys are just sitting it out in a truck, I am going to give them the opportunity tell me their plans and I will adapt and try not to interfere bu that does not mean I am going to just drive miles away ... When you are out hiking and hunting, you are going to come across others often that have similar ideas and strategies, when this happens neither person is wrong but both should try and cooperate... But I am having a hard time grasping how sitting parked 1/4 + mile away from a Known roost ( did you know there were turkey on it or sitting back hoping to catch some moving in from the comfort of your truck?) entitles anyone to anything ... heck, others could come in from a different direction at that distance and you possibly would not even know. It is public land hunting, get used to curve balls being thrown at you and adapt ...

Wow! How on earth did this go 3 pages deep before someone hit up Monty Python?! Im disappointed in all of us. "Of course I'm French! Why else would I speak with this out-raaaaageous auk-cent!" "Excuse me sir! Are you suggesting that a coconut migrated?" Classic stuff! I think Monty Python Quotes + Hunting forum + Gun owners ... may = a NSA red Flag "And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."

"A deer has to be taken with one shot. I try to tell people that but they don't listen." " Every time he comes up, he's got no knife, he's got no jacket, he's got no pants, he's got no boots. All he's got is that stupid gun he carries around like John Wayne." So many good ones out there, but here are a couple of my favorites ... If I have to tell you the movie it would be a shame!

Get them some starter sets .. Amazon has a lot to choose from ... if you have some old reels spooled up use them for teaching mechanics... take them out to a park with lots of grass and space , throw hula hoops at various distances and make it fun having them compete trying to land on target. No need to drop a lot on teaching the fundamentals and in most of AZ a good spinning rod floating a leader and fly behind a bubble can produce just as well with less headache than dealing with a fly rod, unless of course you are looking at setting them up in waders and float tubes too.

Because there is no way to use the law to keep her ex out of the honey hole, well at least the one they may both try to hunt in. It is still first come first serve... she should try to make sure she has cell signal and if he harasses her( not the other way around ) then she can call the law and his hunting trip will most likely be cut short, something I am sure any guy would like to avoid.... with today's technology if I were either,I would be running a go-pro at all times just in case I need some evidence of how things went down, if anything even was to happen... like most said, Big Unit ... plenty of honey holes for those willing to hike... and with so many tags her ex may be the least of her worries when it comes to competition ...

Non-Typical I feel the ambush method is the best way to kill a pesky fly... Turn off all your lights so it is nice and dark ( the fly/flies will land) ... grab your camera with night vision ( if you have one ) ... hit record and then show your finger slowly squishing the unknowing Blind Fly... Seriously though. I agree with most that this is an issue you need to discuss with your attorney... an OOP does not usually give the right for the protected to knowingly place themselves in the others vicinity in order to harass and chase off. I would look at it as Hunting as usual, First come First Serve. You walk up on him in one of your shared spots, it is you that has to leave , if he walks in on you, it is him... I am not so sure this is as big as an issue as this thread seems to make it seem , then again I do not feel that some of the dialogue expressed in it does you any favors either. In the end you both should be able to enjoy your own personal Hunts and try to not make it an issue... if You guys do , most likely the Elk will win! just my 2 cents.

Many on this site like to complain about everyone and everything but their all knowing selves. Often the Game and fish department is ridiculed and disparaged on almost every move or decision they make. The reality is, No one is perfect and no one person knows it all, but if it were not for some motivated outdoors men and organizations including the game and fish. None of us would have the luxury today to sit on a computer and cry about when, if, and where we may be able to hunt in some of the best Elk Country in the world. It is hard to believe that only 10 decades ago+ a few years( for those 20 - 30 yo guys that is only 3 - 5 times your age) there were no elk left in this state. After our native herds of Merriam's Elk had been hunted out by 1910.By the early 1920's the total National numbers of Elk were in the range of 90,000 head with almost 40,000 of the nations elk residing in Yellowstone National Park . In 1913 a group of citizens, private groups, the Elks, with the help of some politicians who gave support introduced the first 83 Rocky Mountain Elk to Arizona. When we talk Genetics we must know that numerous states used the same herds from Yellowstone through the early to mid 1900's to rebuild dwindling populations. The state legislator and a single Game Warden was in control of our wildlife and New growing Elk population for the first 17 years. In 1929 after years of lobbying by citizens the Game and Fish Commission was created and entrusted with the future prosperity of our Wildlife for future generations utilizing science versus politics. So begun the AZ game and Fish Department as we know it today under a commission. By 1935 The first elk hunts began and ever since Game and Fish has worked with various groups and citizens to continue growing and maintaining a herd that is known to have some of the best Bulls in the world and the most sought after tags by Non resident Hunters. By the mid 80's ( 7 decades later) the number of Elk , the quality of Elk and the opportunity to hunt these Majestic animals has increased exponentially. This would not have been possible with out the Game and Fish, no matter how much you want to think it could have. I am thankful to the generations of individuals who seen the importance of such a task, the Game and Fish of old for laying a foundation and the new who continue to work hard to try and ensure future generations will have the same opportunities to enjoy our wildlife as we all have. I am 40, and when you look at it 10 decades is not that long of a time to go from 83 animals to the stable herds we have today that have maintained pretty solid for last couple decades even with 8,000-9,000 head being harvested annually. I feel, we owe it to those that helped ensure we get to even have the chance to draw a tag year after year to know the history.... I also feel that G&F deserves a little more support and acknowledgment for their part in keeping a healthy quality herd. http://www.elks.org/lodges/LodgePages.cfm?LodgeNumber=536&ID=365 http://www.azgfd.gov/i_e/pubs/documents/ElkRestoration_000.pdf http://www.azgfd.com/h_f/documents/2011%20Elk%20Management%20Plan%20December%203%202011.pdf http://www.azgfd.com/h_f/game_elk.shtml p.s. I have no affiliation with G&F nor do I agree with everything they do, but I will not sit back and belittle people, with more detailed knowledge than myself, for trying to do their jobs.

I like all the guys that try to convince everyone there are no more good bulls left in many of the units .... and the premier members that tear up on the rest, especially the noobs that are asking on their very first post or two .... Let the next few Months of entertaining bickering begin ... My recommendation is only this .... If you have the late hunts , save your money and limit your scouting to a few trips, and the last two taking place within the weeks leading to your open... The money saved may be able to pay for a mule pack out of your trophy, and in some units once successful, many are going to wish they did ... Oh and one more thing for the first time E-scouters ... the G&F "Where to Hunt" gives enough information to find good starting points that even a Home Schooled Kid from Arkansas could have a fighting chance of tagging out .... and I have nothing against people from Arkansas

rossislider Yeah ... I often fish the 4 3/8" or 5 and 1/4 in these baits on Big lake trailing salmon eggs ... The rainbow trout ,holo clown , and holo Tennessee are colors I use .... you will be surprised at even how many 12 inch fish try to gobble up a big lure .... http://yo-zuri.com/OnlineStore/Classic_Lures/Crystal_Minnow_Series/details/Crystal_Minnow_Floating.html If those are not turning them on I will go to the pins minnows ... in more native colors ... on the Black the smallest M37 was a killer I go with the 3 1/2 inch most the times on lakes though... http://yo-zuri.com/Products/Pins_Minnow_Series/details/Pins_Minnow_Floating.html been a long time since I fished the snake .. would love to get back up to Island park and do some fishing up there !

I have always done well with brooks on the east bank where it cuts back into the cove... but big rainbows and cut throats can pop up anywhere any time in the spring ... fish those big lures slow and you will catch some.

I am thinking a $10,000 fine for every mile shown on the odometer of every atv/utv owned by the fools ....

Never too cold once the ice is melted ..... Late March through April can be awesome if you have open water for casting you are all good ... If you are looking for some big ones try putting salmon eggs on the barbs of the rear hook of a Rapala Countdown minnow or yo-zuri crystal minnow .... if you think they are holding closer to bottom use a floating version of either lure with a 2-3 feet of leader and weight in front of leader to get it down while letting the lure float off bottom .... p.s. do not be afraid to use the bigger lures

I hope they do it right and not only build a case with what the OP has , but actually taking the time to catch him in the act ... I would then like to see him get the book thrown at him and to become the poster child for why breaking the laws does not pay in the long run , only COSTS ...

Winchester Long Beard XR in 3 1/2 5 or 6 with full turkey choke .... I know carlsons makes a specific long beard xr full turkey choke that I know a few using and they love them

I think he has gone up 40 posts since he started this thread .... only 926 to go

as other said , just keep replying and posting ... sure there are enough old threads you could do a one word response of "Cool" and become premier

Thanks... Welcome... and Good Luck on your Draw and Hunt

Caller # 12,000 earns his or her Draw Results !

Thanks for adding the link .... I had both open and copied and pasted the wrong the one .... p.s. Sour I did not put any current population numbers for yellowstone ... and please share the published articles you have that show the national lows in the early 1920's are different than what I read and paraphrased ....

Congrats and Blessings to all your family and new Daughter ...

I use to love when the Cubs came to visit so I could poke fun at Sammy SO-SO .... now days he is retired and a much paler version of his former self...

^^^^^^^ What he said^^^^^^^^ and get your speedo gear as the police these days do not seem as nice about using the excuse I just lifted my truck and put on bigger tires ....

Had to buy 7th bonus point this year since I am dealing with my mom being in hospital for over 8 months now... But will Be on a few hunts with family one 23 Bull the other two cow hunts 3c