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Wondering WTH sjvcon is saying is wrong .... A license is all that is needed to take small game not a tag ... A pistol can be carried at anytime for protection or hunting small game .... TO CYA make sure you have a license and you will not have any trouble ...

Read Game and Fish Where to hunt .... gives you about all the same info you will ever get from a forum and is always the best place to start.... Good luck !

Kaz our group has quiet a few more , but many are better to tell around the fire ....

The Smile says it all .... Nicely done.

Blaze IMO the coues hunters are far worse, I have been on coues hunts where I have seen the worst of it and often by long range shooters ... I have seen 4 guys unload and reload on small buck shooting right up to a hunter glassing on the ridge above where it was bedded they fired off over 20 shots every time the buck was moving up and getting closer to the hunter .. If I seen him I am sure they did too... He hustled of the hill and knocked the biggest guy in the group out with one punch then drew his sidearm and continued to unload verbally on them... It was not a buck he was interested in but the proximity to him those guys should have never been shot ... He told the young guys to go get their buck and me and my buddy worked to the group in time to hear him tell the dad that he was going to working the area throughout the hunt and if he seen them even close in his glass they would be seeing rocks exploding around them ... Same unit far different area were on some bucks at night fall , returned to glass the next morning but only got a few hundred yards from road so we could get a wider look and relocate them in the numerous draws, well we found them about 600-700 yards a couple ridges over, but while glassing we seen that a hunter coming from the other direction was glassing them up and putting a stalk on them ...We decided to just stay put and watch and see if he was successful and where the rest of the group of 5 bucks went when he was done... He was within about 400 yards and working up closer when the biggest buck stood up, under the tree he stood out like a sore thumb and was easily seen without binoculars. It was at that time a truck stopped on the road and a hunter decided to shoot the 1000 yard shot.. The guy on the stalk stood up waving blaze orange , the guy in the trucks friend was saying something and pointing to the other hunter when the guy with the gun let his shot rip hitting the buck but only wounding him... The hunter at that point unloaded his firearm sending all 5 bucks scrambling and running over steep nasty terrain... At that point we headed down to our truck and the guys off the shoulder of the road telling them how screwed up that was for them to do. We told them we knew they were aware of the other hunter stalking them, even the shooters buddy acknowledged we were right. The guy stalking worked his way down quick shouting and cussing right to them pissed telling them to have fun trying to locate that wounded buck now as he walked off ! So when you say carp hunters in reference to ethics and respecting others .. I have seen way worse on my coues hunts and way more than anyone should see and most of it in 36b ..

Pretty messed up situation but not surprising ... I expect to see hunters and often they make an honest mistake but this does not sound like the case in your situation... I have twice experienced what I think is a bit worse than that down south, when having bullets coming overhead from long distance shooters who knew I was between them and the deer they attempted to shoot .. I make it a point to make others see me by standing flashing a mirror in their direction or putting my orange up ... Both times I was acknowledged by waves so I know they knew I was there... both times it was deer coming over the ridge line and moving to bed in the shade below.. both times multiple shots were fired and missed sending the bucks running for broke. I would have much rather the hunters worked to me and discussed how they intended to hunt the area ... I was only able to have words with one of the groups. the group was 6 guys, 2 hunters being guided... I told them if they shoot over my head again I was going to shoot back aiming right at them and say it was self defense as my life felt threatened... that group broke and moved their camp that night and I did not see any of the hunters or vehicles the entire rest of the hunt down in 36B.

In 36B years ago on one of our first trips down there my brother had a doe and fawn feed right up to him the closer they got had him tucking himself tighter to the tree he was using for shade while glassing... They fed right to him to the point they began smelling his boots. It was about then he sneezed and they jumped back about 10 yards but did not leave .. The doe and fawn started blowing through their noses and worked right back to him ... I watched from across the ridge for a while until he decided he had enough and stepped out from the tree sending the white flags up and dust trails flying away from him ... Was cool to see !

Awesome Buck !!!! can not wait to hear more about your adventures getting him

Awesome .. Well Done Draysen .. Way to get it done to all those helping!

age - 40 male 1 Speeding Ticket ( when 17) felony speeding going 107 in 55, judge reduced to misdemenor and no fine had to go to traffic school believe it was $75 2 - photo radar tickets for speeding , but was not me driving , charges dropped 1 illegal right trun on red ticket - trafic school all over again $100 that is all my tickets

Public land, but maybe you should inform eveyone to the actual amount of area you are hunting. Is it 2 square miles you have claim to or maybe it is just 1 ? Maybe put up some road closure signs sayingTHIS IS MY HUNTING AREA STAY OUT ... and if you busted your butt hiking and are still close enough to roads to be bitching about road hunters you should have hiked off the roads and into wilderness. If there are roads you will find road hunters nothing new there..

There is barbed wire in some of the rough areas in the mountains down there clearly marked interantional border .... I make it a point to piss over onto the other side ... he last time down a BP copter came overhead as I was watering the desert across the fence .... becuase there are also sensorsout there that have them showing up in the damndest places when we are hiking out and they say they just needed to make sure we were hunters ... Never an issue even when hunting with my Mexican frend

Too many to tell , but in every situation when able to call out to Border Patrol and give coordinates or talk to one close to where we were, they were right on the situation...Our group has helped BP locate and take out over a dozen groups of illegals ranging in size from 5 - 30 ... Have helped them locate and take out 4 different drug mule trains, 3 were groups of 5 with one spotter carrying a gun and one was much larger, as we would later discover. We had only seen one of the mules and the black hawk was on top of him within 5 minutes of us calling it in ( thank god for even weak cell signal)... In that last case it was a group of 20 mules and they let them walk out to Arivaca road where they had probably close to 50 agents from horse back to helicopters as well as two drones ... The Tumacacori range gets most of the drug mule and Banditos traffic due to the rougher terrain and a bit less patrols on the roads and it was heading to a honey hole(4 years ago) in that range our trip was cut short by a group of masked banditos with AK's that were beating down a mule and taking his load... If not for the red bandannas we probably would have drove right into them. Instead I was able to catch it moving as we dropped from the top of the well covered canyon taking time to stop and glass through the cover. Watching it go down and with no cell signal we assessed the situation (2 of us and 2 pistols with 6 clips,) and we decided that we would not go back to our spot today. Took an hour of rough driving before we ran into an agent and we gave him the details and locations and his response was that they have been trying to get on this group and another in those mountains for the last couple weeks ... Those Samaritans in my opinion are working with cartels or coyotes or both as we have watched them take out water and supplies several times to caches that would be found only by someone using gps. little to say those caches were not left in tact. despite all the craziness we all still love going down there as plan B and usually go in a group of 6 - 8 guys .. plenty of extra sidearms and ammo, and not once have we had anything damaged or taken from our camp... Have had them bust deer we were stalking and jump out of bushes like fool's quail while out hiking... Have had to refuse helping them and made many calls to BP ... All in all it makes for a fun time on scouts and hunts!

We will see in a couple years when those 500,000 Florida strain Large mouth Bass start hitting the 10 lb range as they have been used in other hatcheries in the country to take care of those dang gizzard shad .... though in all the years fishing that lake and casting to catch regular shad for bait, when with kids and family, I have only seen one and it was about dead !

I am not going to assume anything as I nor you have all the information that they are using to feel an increase is needed... I do know though based off other management models used by other states and used on The WMAT res that the best way to reduce the quality of bulls( especially in a Unit so many look for trophy bulls) is to let the Bull population rise to far.... You know, you may be right, those 15 bulls extra will not make a big difference, but you may also be wrong ... Maybe those tags would not be needed if more hunters were willing to cull Rag horns from the population ... Killing off the biggest best bulls over 5 years while not culling lesser rag horns will turn that unit into just an average unit with more under 300 bulls coming out of it over next decade... Still I will respect those that actually get paid to do the job and are privy to a more focused education as well as all the information to try their best for quality and longevity of the herd....

Again so many hunters seem as the are arm chair wildlife biologists and know how to manage the herds in our state better than others... Some hunters seem to think that ratios are the only possible reason and that it is all about money, but they do not take into account that total #'s of all elk within a range are also a factor... I will not say that G&F does not make mistakes and always make the right moves when it comes to tag numbers, but they often correct them quickly when seeing a negative impact or results not to what the intentions were. If it is all about the money what is better for a business .. Taking more money for a shorty duration or taking a little bit less money for a much much longer duration ... The real answer IMO is following the formula that the WMAT uses at limiting trophy Elk tags , making Rag horn tags ( to cull the bulls) and then cow tags that balance with the numbers to insure higher fawning rates... I know plenty of hunters that would pay a little less to harvest a rag horn in units where many are passed up by all the trophy hunters... Oh and to top that off the quality of trophy bulls will go up over time by such a system ... ( look at Colorado for a good example of what happens to quality bulls when you do not manage the ratios properly, Not too many 380+ bulls coming from there in the last couple decades) ... That being said I think hunters as a whole should stop the BS when it comes to G&F and what they are trying to do to insure a sustained herd for future generations... Some on here just cry way too dang much ! p.s. Do not work for any government agency and despise most as much or more than any of you, but G&F(as a whole) is not one of them I do despise!

If i only had the funds ... My bro has one and they are sweet little guns

Smartwool for most seasons... But for cold look at the JB Icelandic http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049HMMNI/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0049HMMNI&linkCode=as2&tag=thesav02-20 Oh and Always keep Moleskin in your pack and use at first hint you may be getting a blister .... If boots keep giving blisters after more than a few trips and several miles look at the size probably wrong...

BILSTEINS .. NO Questions Asked

Awesome Job and great experiences for all your young hunters ... Good luck on your next hunt, looks like the pressure is on!

Japan, Phillippines, and China on some models

Condition yourself with some Polar bear swims .. then head out in shorts and a few light layers

I like how she says just a few .... Nice looking pelts Of course your Buck speaks for itself ...Thanks for sharing

Amazing Pictures and great read on your experience over there. Good to see, that despite the tough time retrieving your doe, you are not giving up and using it as motivation. I am sure everything will come together and Dec. and January you will be out for redemption. Good Luck on all your future Hunts!

which hunt number I see none saying the 25th and using the find for all the regs typing Oct 25 gives 0 results found... just look at your tag The PDF from G&F is what I checked .. now if you have paper regs in from 2013-2014 the dates would show the 25-31 and you would be holding the old regs