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Hunter11 look for them browsing a little lower in the pick (look in the green areas), But it almost looks to me, as there may also be a small buck even lower and further left bedded on the downward edge of a tree, unfortunately the pic quality does not hold good to zoom and tell for sure.

Way to kick off the New Year... I would not have any problem waiting another year after sticking one of those studs !!!

I think the posting of even a partial license plate on the forums is Wrong... Is it possible that the said archery hunter maybe has spot, blind, or stand down a path that leads to the hole and he is doing what he has done in the past? Is it possible after seeing three guys with shotguns that he thought you were out for quail and he may need to double time it back to where he wants to be before the thunder sticks start booming? Was your buddy standing by the road or actually waving him down? I can see how you feel it is rude, but it is public land and dealing with all intrusions from the likes of hikers, recreational people, and other hunters is just part of the game. I would be surprised if that was the only water close and if you couldn't find those pond jumpers on one of the other tanks in the area. I would also think since it has happened several times in the past that a plan b and c would be in place for such instances. Maybe next time the three of you should walk the middle of the road causing him to slow down so you can share your plans

Awesome way to finish the year on a high note with a nice buck!

Nice buck all the same even shy of that 100 mark ... Way to keep going at it !

+1 not usually too hard to get the approval when she will be salivating over a new one just for her

Looks like a Lone Gray Wolf has moved into California via Oregon looking to start his own new Wolf Pack... Bet he would make a nice hand bag to sell on Rodeo Dr. http://news.yahoo.com/biologists-lone-gray-wolf-crosses-california-001920271.html

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That there is a Beast of a buck ... I would venture in the 132 - 134 range

I have missed taking some shots because of a half mile of nasty country at a real steep angle that would have kicked my butt even trying to work up it. However, this past year I missed a give-me shot(145 yards) right over the back due to not taking the angle into account. It happened quick when he got up, and the white flag began to raise like he was about to bust. Shooting off hand and completely negating the fact that it was a steep uphill shot found my bullet going right over his back and killing the rock above him. I made the adjustments for elevation fine on my second shot as he tried busting out but my lead was a bit forward as I killed the rock right in front of him at what would have been perfect elevation. None the less he was headed the way of Mexico and that was that. It is always amazing how the angles can throw off one's perception of distance and how easy it is to end up high even on a shot that you tell yourself when it is over " How the Frack did I miss that" and it is usually then you realize the effect an angle can make shooting uphill. I told myself that not taking into account a steep angle like that will never happen again, and I hope it does not.

I definitely do not see any issue with this and usually this time of year guys/gals scouting make up a much smaller percent of people than those out running the forest roads with their OHV's.

It is a tragedy to see something like this on the Eve of Thanksgiving none the less... I hope that everyone will have these children and adult passengers in there prayers for all of this holiday season.

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That is fracking hilarious... Where is a hungry mountain lion when you need him

Just reminding all of you guys not to get robbed next year when putting in for the draw. You should all steer clear of the December hunts since they will be cut almost two weeks short ending on Dec. 21st 2012.

Wow Jeremy you must really be butt hurt from elkaholic's comment about you not just packing up your blind. To then try and compare that to a flatbed hitched to a truck in the field is hilarious Taking something that does not belong to you is wrong no mater the circumstances, but we are not talking apples to apples here. I have seen forest service and G&f removing things like blinds, trail-cams, tree-stands, and even just chairs from our hunting grounds, but never seen them unhitch a trailer and take it. I agree with elkaholic on his notion that, if you are going to get butt hurt when you find something you leave in the field missing, don't leave it at all. heck for all anyone knows the blind may not have been secured as well as it should have been and thanks to strong winds is a half mile away rotting in the woods. If it is against the law to leave something in the woods for a certain number of days and then it is removed by an official doing his/her job is that your fault or theirs? The catch 22 when you leave things unattended is, how do you know exactly what happened? Seems everyone always assumes the worst and says it was stolen but that may or not be the case, Right? is it possible that it was taken by proper officials? a simple yes or no is all we need, but we all know that it is not just possible but probable as well, since so many have witnessed the action of items being removed from our forests by officials whos job it is to manage it.

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I am posting for my cousin who is looking at selling his two unused Integral Tactical military Bivys. They are the Crysallis models in woodland camo and retail for $250 and up. He is looking for $170 each but will listen to offers on both to one person. This is the same bivy used in the military. For details here is the link... http://www.integraltactical.com/product_detail.cfm?id=695&CFID=3100118&CFTOKEN=91137410

Well I am back after hunting a rough 5 days in the weather and gusting wind down in 36B. We spotted and glassed up tons of coues, but unfortunately not many bucks. A few Spikes a fork and a missed opportunity (missed shot) on a respectable 3x2 on Monday. Weather made it rough: wind, rain, and hail, but Disrespect from someone sporting the Coues Whitetail.com brand on their shirts is what made me sick for the first three days of the hunt. I have always grown up learning to respect my fellow hunters and give them space to hunt the areas they are in when I come upon them. Numerous times on this hunt, found my cousin and myself driving by desired areas by at least a couple of miles when evidence of a hunter in the area was there (like the truck parked at the base of a hill or drainage). I even drew back twice after hiking into an area and relatively quickly glassing hunters working the same area from the other side. I guess it is a matter of respect, and one that a fellow member has none of, a guy assisting a hunter and for the first three days parking nearly on top of us and trying to position himself glassing between us and the drainage we were working... The first time we made our presence clear as we glassed from the flats up the range, by standing up and watching him look at us from his truck. Our plan to glass from the flats before pushing up an intermediate hill (a spot, we had prepared for glassing from, the day before the hunt began) was short lived as he parked 20 yards down from us and pushed right up the face of the hill that was right in front of our truck. Instead of raising some heck we moved to another location far from this guy. The next morning he beat us to our spot and while still a little pissed, I gave the respect I was taught, that he failed to give us , and we moved on down about a mile and a half to another ridge on the other side of the mountain. He looked back and waved as we drove past him and the hunter. The next two times we arrived first in this area he showed up later only to keep insisting on parking right on top of us and trying to push past us and the country we were working. I Hope the guy sporting the hunters orange hat and the coueswhitetail.com shirt reads this and knows that he is the same kind of jerk he probably shuns when it comes to hunters and respect. He is in the same class as a person that takes another persons downed game or steals the back straps from a hanging elk in camp. If you are the guy that kept parking next to the white Ford Raptor we were driving, know that someday the guys you are screwing with may not be as accommodating as myself and my cousin were with you. Hopefully you were able to get that toad hanging around that area to give you a shot (not really), I actually hope he makes it to next season.

Might be that something came out of adjustment, but if this was last weeks hunt I would bet that those spiraling winds and huge gusts were making most long shots a bit less accurate...

It has nothing to do with the number of tags nor the number of days a hunter chooses to spend in the field. It has to do with respecting others period. I have been on hunts with 800+ tags in many units and never found it hard to move by hunters who are working an area before me and move on to another spot and find game. Sometimes I hike out and sometimes I find areas close to roads ideal for glassing but 36b has no shortage of roads or areas that may limit hunters the ability to respect one another. Nor is it hard to stop and introduce yourself and share your reason for wanting to work close to the same area (something that if done, would have changed my feelings about this guy) making excuses based on number of tags and length of ones chosen hunt is a poor excuse to act in this kind of manner. Like I said, Twice in another part of the unit I hiked into an area (no other trucks or proof of hunters) and quickly glassed up hunters who had not spotted me, as soon as I was aware someone came in from another side I quietly pulled out and left the area. I did not have to go more than a couple miles before finding deer in area with no others around, just no bucks I wanted to shoot. It is a Big unit with good populations all over, and plenty of access. There is no excuse for a guy doing what he was doing. After seeing his actions, and though I would never condone it, I can certainly understand why confrontations and retaliation happens in the field.

A wave back at you Winmag. We did see you up in the hills, that wind must have been cold on your face the morning I saw you standing while your friend was driving back from the back side of that road. Beautiful country back there and a lot of deer just seems the bucks were hunkered down real well. Not an area I would give up on in future hunts. We worked that area hard by foot and glassing the first few days even when the (Richard) kept persisted to be on top of us. Seen some small ones but took no shots back there. Thursday we seen almost no one back there, Friday just a couple, Saturday I started to think there was strip club at the end of road that was responsible for all the traffic. After the Sunday morning traffic and hunters driving their buggies with barking dogs it was time to move on to some less traveled country. This was definitely one of the craziest hunts down there this year with the weather and so many (Richards) on the hills. With that being said we did talk with some awesome hunters many of who had very similar experiences when it came to finding the good bucks we all know are in the area. Good luck on all your future hunts and next time we will say Hi in the field. Chris

The digital camera got left behind without realization until we reached Green Valley. The guy was not hunting, but was guiding (not sure if he was an actual guide) a hunter, and sporting the long sleeve Coueswhitwtail.com shirts. They were driving a pretty specific truck, popular make but in a V10, and had two bumper stickers on the bumper but no CW.com on the window. Winmag most likely seen the truck as we did see him in the area a couple times.

Cool Pics... I have seen plenty of good rams in that wilderness

That is not what he said. He said he believes that some people will voice in public that it wrong to steal and vandalize but when no one is looking they swipe a camera. That is not what he said look at the context in which he wrote it. His reference is that ( Well, looks like a lot of people are out there( i.e. public land) doing this ( stealing and vandalizing) and A LOT( meaning a large part of the action) of it has to be from other hunters who condemn it on a thread. ) His thought is represented pretty clear and is ignorant.