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Like every American, that photo irks me to no end. The "punks" that did that and who are emptying the schools are a symptom of a very terminal disease in our educational system and country. At least they got one thing right : The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property. Our country is in a world of hurt. It is a country that is "on the verge" so to speak. We have a corrupt congress, an administration that has lost its way and society looking to blame everyone else but its self for its woes. Oh Lord we need help! It is very sad and hurtful to watch all this unfold. As a "person of color" with Native American and Mexican heritige I watch with great trepidation. I live in Tucson and was raised in Arizona, dealt with the BP stops and not being allowed to swim in certain pools, etc. I thought I was over this but these types of post really open old wounds. Flammable post, you bet! I in no way condon any of the stuff that is going on in our nation in connection to so called immigration "rights". I only wish that the venom that is being spewed forth on both sides will subside and we can take a collective deep breath and stop in its tracks what the terrorist attacks only dreamed of doing. Illegal immigration hurts all involved no doubt about that, I only pray that we can get the power brokers to have the courage to take this issue on without turing it into a other country wrecking issue... Peace to all and my God continue to Bless America, Ernest

Double WOW and Doh!!! to all the stories... most of this stuff I thought only happened in the "movies". Man... sure makes ya count your blessings if you only had a twisted ankle. DEDICATION and RESPONSIBLITY is what I'm talking about Desertsheep, very impressive and respectful, glad you were able to make it back all the way around.

Wow !! Those are some sick stories. Desertsheep what happened to the deer's hind quarters you left hanging on the tree? I was hunting in 30B with my Dad and brother once. My father connected on a coues and while we were loading it onto the horse, the horse went off and kicked my bro real hard in the thigh. Thought for sure he broke his femur but after the dust settled we were all none worst for the scare, thought he almost lost his nads. Ernesto, you must be a man's man. Cannot even imagine traveling all night, much less after a vasectomy. All joking aside sure glad no tragic endings to any of the stories so far. Thanxs for sharing. Ernest

Aye RR, what do ya know about the Fusion bullet? You made a very interesting point here about the new Barnes. I used the Fusion this past season and am sold on it but would sure like some additional expert opinions concerning this bullet before I'm completely sold. Their(Fusion) website puts on a nice show but that's about it. BTW penny chemistry is very interesting I totally agree , done some experimenting my self on pennies if ya know what I mean. Thanx in advance. Ernest

Doh!!! I bet he's a dentist's nightmare.... sweet LOL !!!! Ern

Know what ya mean "grizzly", the same thing happened to me. I found Chuck Adams to be very personable, heck he even gave my children(5y.o. son and 12 y.o. daughter) a chuckle by noticing them. Great guys and great expo. Picked me up a nice coues velvet rack and fox pelts for under $20.00 courtesy of the AzGF. Enjoy the show.

Wow, how close was he? Do you have any other details. That photo sure looks close or he has a super set of optics. Good luck to you on your hunt. Anyone else noticing how many lion post are going up. No freak'in wonder I saw one deer and no pigs last week. Ernest

Wow, absolutely great deer. Nice to see there are still deers in them hills . Thanx for sharing. Ernest

Wow! That is way cool. Do you ever have any problems with "lions"? Or have you ever noticed any lion tracks around your camps? I'm really interested in how you lead them. You stated that "no lead ropes", do you usually use them? Great set of pictures... I raised a goat once and he was the coolest critter, was a little rough but really was joy to be around with. Thanx for sharing. Ernest

I believe the "purple" prickly pear is known as the "Santa Rita". They are hihgly prized for their decorative value throughout Az. I actually do not know if it is a distinct species or a stressed prickly pear catus. I know who would know, someone who works at the boyce thompson arboretum Ernest

I love that last picture! It made my day, looks like something out of that childrens book "The Three Little Javaliinas". Was there any mistletoe hanging above her? Nice, very nice. Ernest

Aye, what happened to the other 100 lbs of weed? Oh nice Swaro's, never mind. Anyway, super story and awesome photos, good the see and read about another successful hunt. Were you ever worried about the danger that was surrounding you? As I read your story I was like, "wow... " I hope you were packing more than just your rifles and deer. Thanx again for the great story, throughly enjoyable. Ernest

Absolutely first class photos and many congrats on a successful hunt. Great ! Ernest

Thanx for sharing Amanda. In the Torts just north of Tucson there are some drawings that look exactly like the stick man in the second picture. When I find stuff like that and/or pottery shards I often think about the people who left them there. Weird to think that a few hundred years later you stumble on it. Exciting stuff and amazing, thanx for sharing. Thanx for the story Mr. Quimby. Ernest

OH MY GOSH !!! That is one beautiful buck or as my four year old son said when he saw the pictures "that's a bad bull deer!" , I think he was having trouble deciding if that was a deer or elk . Nothing but congrats on a very sucessful hunt. Thanx for sharing, take care Mace. This is the stuff of dreams and why I keep hunting wtd's. Ernest

Man, you guys are too much. Laughed my head off, wife and kids thought I was crazy. Keep 'em coming boyz these comments have made my day! Ernest BTW... looks like az4life had a similar experience. Hope he fared better.

So did anyone else read this : Man Kills Buck With Bare Hands in Bedroom November 01, 2005 9:39 PM EST BENTONVILLE, Ark. - It looked like a crime scene, but no charges will be filed after Wayne Goldsberry killed a buck with his bare hands in his daughter's bedroom. The engagement lasted an exhausting 40 minutes, but Goldsberry finally subdued the five-point whitetail deer that crashed through a bedroom window at his daughter's home Friday. When it was over, blood splattered the walls and the deer lay on the bedroom floor, its neck broken. Goldsberry was at his daughter's home when he heard glass breaking. He went back to check on the noise and found the deer. "I was standing about like this peeking around the corner when the deer came out of the bedroom," said Goldsberry, demonstrating while peering around his kitchen wall. The deer ran down the hall and into the master bedroom - "jumping back and forth across the bed." "I could tell he was really tearing up the place back there," Goldsberry said. Goldsberry entered the bedroom to confront the deer and, after a brief struggle, emerged to tell his wife to call police. After returning to the bedroom, the fight continued. Goldsberry finally was able to grip the animal and twist its neck, killing it. "He was trying to get up a corner wall and I just came in behind him and grabbed him by the horns and just started pushing down," said Goldsberry. Goldsberry, sore from the struggle, dragged the dead animal out of the house. "He got kicked several times. He was walking bowlegged for awhile," Deputy Doug Gay said. Benton County Sheriff Keith Ferguson said that when he arrived he found the deer dead in the front yard. Goldsberry intended to have the deer processed for its meat. Gay said that, this time of year, bucks that see their reflection in windows often charge them, believing the mirror image to be a rival. On Monday in Pine Bluff, the principal of Coleman Elementary School rid his building of a deer by opening a door. Students were preparing for dismissal Monday when a deer crashed through a window and bounded through a hallway. The buck floundered on the school's slick floor for about three minutes exiting via a door along the side of a hallway. Principal Bill Tietz said the deer was slightly injured from the glass and lost an antler. Tietz says the animal leapt a six-foot fence after leaving the school. Got this from the AP wire, I don't know how true or valid but it's interesting.......

Grizzly, sorry to hear ya got stung. Hope it's healing alright. Just a couple of notes on yer comments. A scorpion does not leave a stinger in you when it strikes. Generally the "great" discriptions given here by persons stung by a scorpion are totally accurate. Bee's however do leave a stinger behind and the stinger is attached to a venom sac that continues to pump venom into you after the bee leaves. The key is removing the "whole package" without squeezing more venom into you. The sensation of something "running up" your leg was probably magnified by the sensitive and generous amount of leg hair. The other possiblities include a wasp and/or velet ant which is actually a type of wasp. Both can pack a very painful load. Neither are known to leave a stinger behind. Either way hope yer recovery in going well. Venomous critters are mysterious things and I enjoy working with them as part of my job. As azhuntsman stated be sure to followup with yer doc if symptoms are not clearing up.

Nice one WMK, now that is FUNNY! Where did ya get that, leave it to GC to tell like it is...... esp #1 and #6 Ernest

I was sicken when I saw the looting going on in NO after Katrina. Now I want to puke by this looting. Can anyone explain the difference between the looting on the streets in NO and the looting by "big oil"? I see no difference; I think if enough of us call and write our "reps" in Washington we can put the heat on them which in turn can put the heat on big oil(although most of our "reps" are in big oil's pockets). I've read about the possiblity of windfall taxes but who do you think will end up paying that tax? Someone should go to jail for this !!!!!

Been thinking, with the heated dicussion in another string what better way to cool things down than to find out who yer fellow hunters are. Thought it would interesting to find out what drives your "passion for the hunt". Well here it goes : Been hunt'n since I was ten years old, forty-one now. Missed a few years due to school (went to NAU), got back into it with a passion. My favorite hunt is of course for our grey ghost. I was raised in Bisbee, Arizona and have a wonderful role model hunter, my father. He is 65 and been hunting since he was 13. I love to be out of doors and enjoy God's creation every second I get. My best memories are hunt'n with dad and spending time with family. I know I will not have dad around forever so I soak in every minute I have with him. I have learned everything I know about hunt'n from my pa and great info found here and other outdoor resources (mags, books,etc). I have a 4 y.o. son who loves being outdoors and watching hunt'n shows. The little guy can bugle like an elk, it's crazy! I am passing my passion on to him just like my dad has been doing to me. I also have a 12 y.o. daughter who is asking about hunting and I intend to pass on that same passion if she desires. There is nothing I enjoy more than being with family outdoors. Favorite sites in Az are the desert, the White Mountains, esp Unit 27 and the Mule Mtns. Favorites pastimes include hunting, hiking, taking digital photos of nature, esp. venomous critters. This year I past on the grey ghost in honor of my uncle who died of liver cancer this past June. I will be hunt'n muley in order to see if I can get a nice cape for the set of antlers he left me. All in all, God has blessed me with a wonderful wife and family, great friends and a love for all living things. Added a couple of antler pics: 1) my best Coues and 2) the muley antlers my uncle left me. All were taken in Unit 30B Regards, Ernest

I call them "tasty" and every once in awhile coues whitetail deer.

oops, for some reason, the muley antler pic never attached. I'll try to get it posted somehow. BTW, we've had a similar string some months past but thought we could use a refresher, esp for those "old-timers" that have been hunt'n for over 55 years or more. Thanx for the comment Az4Life.

Mark, I understand you requested info from around SV or Patagonia, but can I suggest Willcox Meats in Willcox? They travel to Tucson and I've had nothing but great service from them, be it a hog or elk or deer,etc. There prices are competative as well. Hope this helps. Ernest

I'm no bleeding heart "leftist" and agree that there are legal methods of coming to this country but I'm getting sick of and saddened by stupid comments that are being made on a great post that is intended to share hunting knowledge,etc. As an American Hispanic with Native American(Hopi) blood, my ancestors probably thought the same thing Az4Life has said, except flip Hispanic and Anglo around: "never thought Arizona or the US would be more hispanic than anglo" - What ?!? Come on give me a break gentlemen, I just couldn't hold back. I've also read this same kind of garbage on other hunting posts. Even made by well known guides/outfitters! I wonder how their(outfitters) compadres on the other side of the border would feel about these post. Or what the reaction would be if the Mexican Ranchers shut down the Sonoran hunts because of hurtful comments made on these post. " Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark". I'm not asking that you extingish the love and passion we all have for our great country, I'm just asking that we are a little mindful of what we post and how it's said. It saddens me that the high number of UDA's are wrecking our hunting spots. I've personally seen the devastation that has taken place in some of my favorite hunting spots in 30B. Then the drug smugglers and coyotes, man forget about it! Man, that is a whole other subject. It flat out sucks! Good luck to the BP, they are stretched razor thin and have leaders in Washington without any "nads" to firm up our borders. You want to blame someone for the fine mess our borders are in, start at the top and work your way down. Our borders without any doubt need protection and should be made secure, esp. in a time of war. Ernesto, thanx for your prayers and great insight. I also wish everyone well and many blessings on their hunts, be safe , be alert and be kind. GOD BLESS you all. Ernest J