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I wonder if this is a warning shot across the bow or if something is really going to happen.... jason

Great job...

Don't know the answer to your questions BUT good job on looking for the animal until you found it... jason

Those pics are great... jason

So I guess my next question is... What can I/we do? jason

GREAT JOB...Post pictures if you have them.. jason

Man.. it was a joke RELAX KILLER... jason .270.. I agree.. I think... That post is LOOOONNNGGGG

Hubba Hubba.... "Are you happy to see me or is that a grunt tube in your pocket?" jason

Nice deer. jason

Tonight the girlfriend and I took a ride around Fort Bayard(I had to pick up some paper work) ANYWAY.... The bucks are starting to chase the does... I saw three bucks... the largest would go ~90 inches... and there was one little sad spiker that looked like he just had his butt handed to him THIS WEEK IS GOING TO BE heck.... jason

"Hey You Talkin' TO ME, YOU TALK TO ME" LETS DANCE... give me your best shot you pile of sticks... jason

Great job..... that thing is a TOAD... jason

Passion about these topics is good BUT at the end of the day we are all hunters and that is the one thing that unites us all.. Happy New Years.. jason

I will take Chef's advise... bottom line is they can and are charging whatever they want... jason

Keep plugging away.... jason

GREAT JOB...Man that is a nice deer. jason

If you don't like it or the way you are treated don't give them your business... They have always been good to me... I once had a warden give me some info on javelina herds... I was on them thick... jason

By Definition.. Gouging is : to subject to extortion or undue exaction GUESS WHAT you don't have to hunt... It is an honor to hunt... How much are your Sheep Tags? Elk Tags? If the tribe is gouging then so is the state of AZ... and to keep you on track.. the issue was the price of tags... if you don't like it don't pay it... Bottom line... You are right we can not see the books... So I can comment and neither should you...Because you don't know the facts.. Remember the dividends go to the tribal memebers not the leaders therefore they can do whatever they want with there cash... You guys are just grasping for anything... GOOD FOR THE TRIBE.... I think they should charge whinney AZ residents twice the going rate... yah that would be great... They would have three rates. Tribal member rates... Non-Tribal member rates... Whinney AZ resident rates.... they can charge whatever they want... Supply and Demand.... jason

Not for the opportunity to hunt some of the largest elk in the world.. Just because you can not afford, that does not mean it is gouging.. Gouging is when you are taking advantage of the situation... Like charging alot of money for bottled water during a disaster... that is price gouging. How much did the Governors tag in AZ go for?? is that gouging? According to you YES. j-

Your theory has one major and basic fault.... The American government agreed to the terms... These terms were not set by the Natives... If I agree to continue pay you for a crime that happened 100 years ago than that is my fault... I can not blame you and I am sure you would cash the check... right? The "Sovereign Nation" is the only card they have... and once again these terms were set by the American government... If the Natives did not take care of the there land you would not want to hunt it... Sure some houses are in disrepair BUT the country side is in prime condition... Once again the best elk herd in the Nation... So they are taking care of what is most important to them.. Mother Earth not some structure built of brick. By charging higher fees the Tribe is becomming self-sufficient... Hunting brings alot of money to the Tribe and its individual members... That is good... If they don't make this money they will never get off the dole. There is noooo way you can call it gouging.... Gouging is take advantage of somebody.. In the lower 48, hunting is a luxury, You dont have to hunt... You say that you want the Res to be a vital nation... Well one of the most valuable thing any nation has is its natural resources...right??? Well, there is demand for the tags... Let them charge the going rate.... Who are you or anybody to say that Capitalism is wrong... Politics on the Res are definately different... But that is not the issue. Nor is the Casino issue... The issue is the price of the tags... jason

That is too funny... Who cares who I voted for.. Nice side step... The fact remains.. It is there land they can do whatever they want... If you can not afford to hunt the San Carlos I am sure there are 1,000's of hunters who can. Remember the elementary rule of economics.. Supply and Demand... Good for the Tribe... I hope the make a pile of cash.... Jason

I agree what happened years ago happened, we can not undo what happend.... With that in mind... Lets just keep things the way the are... Lets continue helping out where we can... The Res is a Soverign Nation.. They can do what ever they want... They don't even have let you hunt.. They do it because they see an opporunity to become self sufficient AND YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT WAY.. That makes alot of sense... You don't want to help them out but you don't want to let them take care of themselves... What is it?? You can not have it both ways.. Overly Generous??? Money does not replace a way of life that was lost... Look at AZ... Even your guides are against the USO situation... Why because the increase revenues can not replace the fact that there childern will have a harder time drawing tags... NR tags in AZ might go thru the roof... and do you hear me crying like a baby? No... I understand that it is a privledge to hunt in AZ and I deal with it... If I don't like the fees I won't hunt.. You should do the same with the Res. You called them spoiled and lazy.. Some stuff can not but unsaid.. Ladies and Gentlemen... This is a perfect example of someones Alligator mouth getting there Canary A$$ in trouble... jason

"All men created equal" You can not even thing about using that, that was blown out of the water when the US government tried to exterminate the Natives....PLEASE... Look at the history... For years the US government wanted to stop the nomadic ways for the Apache... They stuck them on this crappy land because the government felt that it could break the souls of the Natives... If the Natives did not take care of there land you would not want to hunt there.. In AZ and NM some of the best hunting in the world in on the Reservations... The San Carlos has the best Elk hunting in the world... Are the towns messed up? Yes.. but guess what? You don't hunt in town.. Do they get a free education.. Sure but that is a small price to pay for what the US government has done to the Natives.. GUESS WHAT NEWS FLASH.. If you want a free education anybody can do it.. Look at all the scholarships that are out there... You say they overcharge the whiteman.. If you think it is overcharging DON'T PAY IT.. Bottom Line. Spoiled and Lazy... I will disagree with you.. it is a totally diferent culture for you to judge the culture is just wrong. Natives don't value material goods like many in the Western World. Dude you have issues with the Natives.. Let is go... They are a souverign(spelling?) Nation.. They can do what ever they please... Good For Them... jason

Treestand that is messed up... Don't forget it was the white man that put natives on the Res... Why because it was supposed to be the most undesireable land... If you don't like it don't hunt there...GOOD FOR THE TRIBE... With NM going to a draw prices around the SW are going to go thru the roof, the tribe is smart enough to capitalize on this.. jason