Simple Hunter

I think the unwritten rule on this forum is to PM your specific locations rather than broadcasting them for the e-scouters. Also with 33 so close to a liberal paradise (Tucson) its probably not smart to let the antis know where the hunting areas are. I certainly think sharing information is anyone's own perogative but there are folks that have put a lot of time into identifying good areas and out of respect I think that broadcasting the locations only helps the e-scouters. Just My Opinion

Mountain Lion...the other white meat We had some of ours - and I thought it tasted exactly like chicken. We cut up most of ours into bite sized morsels and portioned it into freezer bags. The dogs ate kitty kat for quite a while...they loved it. Scott

Tree-Huggers are at it again...I'm not talking about those in treestands either. The Feds are going to create Critical Habitat for the Jaguar in Southern Arizona which means anything that might harm the Jaguar would be most likely prohibited. This will include lion pursuit with dogs. If you think we wasted money on the wolves, then just wait for this one. http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/324866.php Sorry folks, I have no trust in the 'Obama'nation and with all the lefties in charge - we hunters will ultimately get screwed in this one. Just watch, they will have more federal employees monitoring the jaguars than they will have enforcing illegal immigration. Sorry for my pessimism, but we have lost our land to the lefties.

CLB, you are dangeroulsy close to opening that dialogue on thresholds that has occurred on this forum before. A lion killed with a legal tag is hunting regardless of pursuit. Occassionally yahoos come on this site suggesting that we should have a minimum point threshold on bucks before they are harvested. There are also those of us who detest road hunting, but nevertheless it is a way of life and tradition for some families. Hunting is different for everyone. The reality is that you houndsmen have competition and will have to get used to it. I don't always have a lion tag in my pocket - but 2 seasons ago I picked up a lot of cats on my trail cameras and so I purchased one for my deer hunt. Simple as that - I was pursuing deer and lion and I got both. Next time I see a lion - I will not pursue myself, but I will get on the phone to a couple of good houndsmen down south and see if they want to chase...or when my kids are old enough will let them have an opportunity.

She let me hang it because I had it draped over the back of the couch and she was tired of sitting on the couch with the lions arm around her neck Big dog, when are you going to get a cat ?

Okay - so I went ahead and hung it angled down. What do you think? I'd still like to see others if there are any out there. This is a pretty big southern cat - just shy of 7 feet from tail to nose. The biologist that checked him in estimated he was 3-4 years old based on his teeth. The tooth analysis says he was 2 years old. ??? I believe the former estimate - this cat was too big and beefy to be a 2-year old. This is my son standing below him - my son is 55" tall. That gives a good impression of how big he is. I didn't weigh him in the field or at the taxidermist but based on many years of packing mature whitetails out over my shoulders - this cat was significantly heavier - I'd say he was 120 lbs dressed out - probably 150 lbs with his guts.

I like the slightly angled down head - seems like that shows more of the head than an angled up pose

Do you have a picture of it?

Raised on Coues whitetail hunting I have never had a problem filling a tag, I haven't surpassed the 100" mark, but I have gotten some decent deer. I have always been told that Coues hunting is one of the most difficult and that if you can be successful at Coues hunting you can kill any big game. I never hunted Carp with a rifle before this year. I chased them with a bow many times. I have always just hunted them like I do whitetail. Glass and glass and glass some more and then spot and stalk. I scouted and had two areas with shooter bucks and they were there before the early hunt. 3 days and not even a single deer, not even a doe. Yet reports were that people were filling their tags left and right with decent bucks (This from a very reputable source - the BP checkpoint . We and other people in our area packed up camp after 3 days of no deer. Today, I picked a new area, windy as heck. I finally glassed up a muley and it was a 4x4, not very tall, but ear wide. I glassed him on the top of the ridge and had him for 5 seconds before he went over. The other side was a mesquite thicket. I never saw him again. I am frustrated as heck that I can't bag a Carp. I mean 9 months out of the year, I probably see a total of 20 bucks right off the highway that are so dumb I could throw a rock at and kill. I've got 3 days left and don't even feel like hunting them anymore.

Muley Traits: Big Ears, dark forehead patch, no eyeguards, white face, black tip of tail from side view Coues Traits: Tail, no white rump, main beams curve like whitetail I could be a believer...but I would need to see rear end attached to front end. The trail cam picture does not look entirely like the buck harvested ...however, the deer looks unintelligent which make me think he has a muley brain

You are right - The Mexican government is going to re-introduce mexican gray wolves to northern Sonora near the New Mexico/Arizona/Sonora Border in a mountain range called the Sierra San Luis - see article http://azstarnet.com/article_1e747ca2-ba88...4783761f09.html Just wait, jaguars and wolves, forget the people. The religion of the environment is taking over and is globally accepted by all the one-world government folks.

We used to call mulies stick deer - because certain times of the year, you could practically beat them to death with a stick. However, I must admit that I couldn't even kill one with a rifle this year. I always thought that we called them Carp, because you could practically snag them with a hook and reel them in.

Wow! Who knew that all I had to do was mention jaguars and lefties and we ultimately discovered the definition of "perfect conservative." Amen brother! So with a platform like that are you ready to take on McCain?

I don't know what happened to the link - for some reason my links never work. The link is to an article in the AZ Red Star - maybe someone who knows what they are doing can put the weblink up.

Okay so ... did this guy just jump to #3 all-time B&C for Typicals? Wow! Big Congrats!

Nice Desert Mulie! Congrats!

John, I'll trade you my Rem. UltraMAG for one of your Warbirds. I mean you don't want me out there with that piece of crap. Take pity on me. -- No Really -- I could probably trade you my UltraMag for a Lazzeroni stock. I mean we all want to grow up someday and be able to afford a Warbird but unfortunately I got alot of growing up to do.

Welcome aboard John! It's a pleasure to have you in the forum. Can't beat something from the horses mouth.

CRACK Rock for deer Right bro?

Kevin and Brian, Big Congrats! Way to represent So AZ. From what I know of Kevin you guys really put your time in and it paid off big. The best thing about your double harvest is that you enjoyed it together and the character of those bucks cannot be matched. I'm afraid you guys will have a hard time topping this hunt ever! That's a good problem to have. Will like to see them on the wall someday.

I have said this before...a hunting trip in the border units that is unencumbered by illegal activity just means you are lucky. The odds are better and better that you will have a bad experience every time you go. Whether it is your personal property broken into, your hunt ruined do to illegals spooking the deer, your pristine places being littered, or your personal safety it is not a safe place. Gun fights are increasing on our side of the border, Game and Fish employees being shot at, grizzly discoveries of dead smugglers. Identities are being mistaken, and yours could be next. I understand that many of you are confident in your ability to protect yourself, as am I, if push comes to shove. But unfortunately, I can take the risk for myself, but I dont feel comfortable taking that risk for my boys. If I can't hunt safely with my family and know that they are okay, then there is a problem with the Country we live in. We need to take this country back, we need to re-establish our border AT the Border. I don't care if they kill themselves south of the border.

Amanda, I think you can block the IP address that Muley Man is accessing from. He may actually be accessing from several different locations, but I bet there is an IT guru in our membership that could help you out. After you ban him this time make him give you his residential address and GPS coords and publish them on this site and then let us know when Muley Man season opens.

That is why they are called Carp I guess. You could snag em with a hook they are so dumb.

I have a 6-18 x 40 Nikon Buckmaster with BDC reticle on my 300 Ultra Mag. I took a lion and a deer with just 3 shots last year. You have to limit your shots with .300 ultra mag (so expensive, $3.00 bullet) I like the BDC reticle for longer shots. To me its the best mid-range scope and is second only to a tactical scope in its adjustments.

I sat a tree stand three years ago and had 16 deer come into drink at the water hole - the following day a lion came in (out of range unfortunately) and got a drink. Only two deer came in late in the afternoon of that same day. I heard deer in the trees and after the lion came in, they were whistling. I'm positive they smelled the lion and stayed away, they definitely didn't smell me as the two deer that did come in later that day bedded down under my tree stand