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  1. By day I am a politically appointed official for a Southern Arizona County... I moonlight as a Civil Engineer doing drainage design, and floodplain management. Any developers, real estate folks, that need a hydrological opinion and or a study/report for a piece of property...send me a PM. Just one thing, If you do work in my County or are contracted with my County, I can't do work for you (Conflict of interest).


  2. ...What I didn't mention is the Game Managment Branch is exceptional. They are outstanding and do a great job for our game and predator management. We just need to axe the "Bugs and Bunny" Branch.

     

    No such thing as the "Enviromental" branch. It is the "research" branch. I know the biologist who is running the bear and lion study, who did not even want to deal with the jaguar and wasn't involved with it his people did it with promition from other G&F people, and that biologist is a BIG time hunter.

    To think about axeing the research branch because it has nothing to do with the management doesn't make much sence to me. The bear and lion project first started to understand large carnivor movements between sky islands and the Wildlife Conservation Society got involved and it in turn got the boarder issue involved. We are lucky to have the research branch, most states will contract out that work to private companies.

     

    Call it what you will. I don't think we will agree on this one. The day the research branch makes our hunting opportunities bettter is the day that I will support them. The reality is that research is generally geared toward making a notable find and the popular culture is to find that humans are bad. Axe 'em.


  3. arizona game and fish made a monumental mistake by sedating and subsequently killing macho b and raping us of one of the most beautiful animals in the world and i hope to heck that some of the liberal organizations hold them accountable for their actions of practicing what i like to refer to as “cowboy management” and in this case “cowboy medicine”. i’m very anxious to hear if any personnel accept personal accountability for their lack of knowledge and lack of training in the administration of the sedatives given to macho b. as with any medication, particularly those of which are dose dependant, over-dosing an animal can lead to acute renal failure which is what macho b was suffering from prior to being euthanized. couple that with macho b not being given a reversal medication, which is dang near a must, along with the horrible affects of capture myopathy. i feel for the individual that actually administered the drug (as he is ultimately responsible for the death) as the poor excuse for a wildlife agency more than likely didn’t provide them with adequate training or continuing education on such a powerful medication, including side-effects, contra-indications, onset, duration, pharmacokinetics, pharmakodynamics, accurate weight estimation and on and on. i’m also curious to hear what data our lack-of-science game department used when it determined that the medication was in fact safe for use on jaguars, because I’d bet my truck that the data simply doesn’t exist and if it did the sample size is too small to utilize. it’s time something is done to the joke arizona game fish for their overall lack of science in 99 percent of what they do to manage our wildlife and to force a change in their antiquated management practices for the 1 percent where they actually do use science. as a consumptive user and a conservative, i’d fully support the legislature suspending all state wildlife management operations of every type until the idiots thoroughly explain the science behind their management and thus modify the manner in which our wildlife is managed. i can only hope media outlets and liberal law firms investigate this and take this case long and far to show how backwards game and fish is in their actions.

     

    Brother, you are in the wrong place. "Suspending all state wildlife management operations." Are you kidding me? You don't get it do you? The "Environmental" Branch (arm) of the G&F is the one who is responsible for this. These guys have nothing to do with game management. They weren't snaring bears and lions for population counts, they were snaring them to track them to see how horrible us humans and our "carbon emitting" lifestyles affect them. The results of this study would be used to halt the Fence Project and all Development in Southern Arizona by establishing open space corridors! The average yahoo environmentalist wacko has no idea how they even have a job - they have no idea that the reason they have a job, is because of Capitalism. Idiots.

     

    Give me a chance to tell you how I really feel about the anti-capitalist environmentalist socialist human-apologist wackos!


  4. We all know there is 2 sides to the AZGFD: (1) Game and Fish Management ; and (2) Bugs and Bunny counting.

     

    #1 focuses on managing Game and Fish populations so that the general populace can recreate and harvest animals - it brings in a lot of revenue

     

    #2 focuses on keeping left wingers employed and funding overeducated scientists (as opposed to applied scientists) to do their research and to develop habitat conservation plans for non-game animals. This is a huge expense and brings in no revenue.

     

    I don't understand why our State Game and Fish has to spend time in the Bugs and Bunny counting aspect of wildlife. This should be left to the US Fish and Wildlife, and let our G&F department focus on managing game animals.

     

     


  5. + 1 With Mr. Quimby - your wealth of knowledge about wildlife and hunting in Arizona is always a pleasure to read. Jaguars native range once reached as far north as the Grand Canyon. I think they are amazing animals and would consider it an incredible experience to see one in the wild. It is unlikely that the Jaguar that has been collared is in any way "errant." Researchers have been studying Jaguars in SoAz since 96, many of them the same animals over the years. Last time I was in Ruby, I spoke with the caretaker, Sundog, who informed me that one particular cat that was being studied in the area ranged from the Atascosas to the Boboquivaris and into Mexico. I inquired as to his source of information, and discovered that the Jag researchers actually stay in Ruby, so I assume his info was pretty good. If anyone wants to find out some good first hand info about Jaguars, Ruby might be a good place to start. For many reasons I doubt a border fence will ever go up, I certainly don't think it will be because of Jags. As someone mentioned earlier, the deer don't seem to be having too much of a problem with Jags in the 36's. With all that said, I would still hate to see some know it all, leftist-liberal-dirt worshiping, hippie-muffin group coming in and causing problems for hunters in the 36's or anywhere in SoAz for that matter.

     

    Nate

     

    There has only been one (1) jaguar documented over and over again since 96 and that is Macho B. The jaguar that Warner Glenn caught on camera in the Peloncillos has not been seen repeatedly. Macho B is purportedly in the Atascosas. I have no doubt that Mr. Macho B is all by himself and may be the last jaguar to roam Southern Arizona. What Mr. Quimby says is historically accurate regarding jaguars, but Mexican grey wolves also roamed all of Arizona also. Look at the disaster of bringing them back and introducing them.

     

    Just so you know, I am not anti-jaguar, I love to see them at the zoo in Tucson, but if you haven't lived here long enough to know that environmentalists will use them as a catalyst to further their purposes, which is to remove humans from public land.

     

     


  6. :blink: There are 79 Million Acres of National Park Service Land - currently off limits to hunting.

     

    If Congress was smart they would open up the National Parks to hunting with an average ratio of 1 permit (whitetail) for every 50 acres of NPS land. Now we know some NPS land is not suitable habitat for hunting whitetail like Death Valley National Park, etc. But other areas the density could be increased.

     

    As a result the Fed Government could sell 1,580,000 permits at $200 a piece - they could command that high a price as the odds for a trophy would increase - and the revenue would be 316 million just for deer. Do the same for other species and eventually were talking over $1 Billion dollars.

     

    The trickle down effect of the hunting (ammo purchases, lodging, taxidermy, meals, gas, etc.) would pump huge amounts of dollars into the local economies.

     

    The hunting revenue could be given back to the States for addressing budget shortfalls or as stimulus checks to those of us that PAY taxes.


  7. I'm just glad they havent taken our right to pick them up period, YET. Like NM and so many other states. Ok so I'll maybe have to stick the "fresh" ones in a tree for a year to be able too keep the darn thing? Old rule , now clarified, still don't like it but probly does keep poachers at bay, ohh well. Another BS rule brought on by shady hunters, thanks <_< No guilty concience here, I'm haulin umm out. If they think they can get to the places I go and find mine to see if the "majority" of hair and hide is there than be my guest, I'll lead the way ;)

     

    Guilty until proven innocent, the new American way :rolleyes:

     

    If you look at the rules, it says if not in conflict with federal law...That's why I posted the other topic in this forum regarding the new federal law. It appears it may be broadly interpreted to include antlers as paleontological finds. National Parks already ban antler removal.


  8. The picture looks like that may be the one they call Macho B, who they have photographed off and on in the units 36a,b,and c for the last 13 years, so many of us have had lots of opportunity to see him. He has also not appeared to have affected antler size in those units. Since he and others have been roaming the area for the last 15 years, the Fish and Wildlife Service have pretty well worked out all of the conservation measures for the jaguars already and there probably will not be any changes to management of the areas where they roam.

     

    I hope you are right - however, did you see what the opposition is saying?

     

    AZ Daily Star

    February 2009

    TONY DAVIS

     

    "Environmentalists from the Center for Biological Diversity said Friday that they're not upset at the capture, but they said it will do little good if the federal government doesn't reverse course and agree to do a recovery plan and designate critical habitat for the jaguar, which is listed as endangered. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's refusal to do either has prompted a center lawsuit that has a U.S. District Court hearing in Tucson scheduled for March 23."

     

     

    New York Times,

    October 2006

    SANDRA BLAKESLEE

     

    "But the jaguars in northern Mexico are at the utmost edge of the animal's natural range, Dr. Rabinowitz said. The ones coming into the United States look like transients, which means it would be "foolish" to call them a resident population, he said."

     

    Dr. Rabinowitz is a leading jaguar expert at the Wildlife Conservation Society in New York City

     

     

    I wouldn't doubt the SW Center for Biological Diversity filing suit against the FWS to designate critical habitat including, creating a new wilderness area in the Tumacacoris and Atascosas. They will first seek a ban on all motorized travel. Then they will seek to create a monument or park closed to hunting. Rep. Raul Grijalva (D) has already been trying to close that area for years.

     

    I fear we will say goodbye to 36B - even after Macho B dies, they will then have precedent to re-introduce new jaguars into that area. :angry:

     

     

     

     


  9. What a great opportunity to learn more about these cats that are very seldom seen in the US. Maybe his travels will lead to others, like a mate, being found. Warner Glenn must be downright ecstatic.

     

    I hope you all catch my drift...I certainly have no disdain for Jaguars, I just simply hate the way enviro wackos use endangered species as leverage to enforce their policies on those of us who have been using the land forever. I only envision massive lawsuits being filed by SWC Biological Diversity and Defenders of Wildlife to close off the land to hunting as a Jaguar preserve.

     

    There are several wildlife refuges already along the border - how many more do we need? Buenos Aires and Cabeza Prieta? I just don't trust the present administration, especially the Department of Interior.


  10. Here's the link to the story...

     

    http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/280970.php

     

    I am very worried what the enviro extremists will do with this - ban hunting in jaguar areas? stop the border fence?

     

    I don't see very much difference in a visiting jaguar than I do in a visiting pelican. Pelicans errantly fly into southern Arizona all the time but this is not their habitat. Jaguars probably do not prefer this habitat but occasion to find it when on the perimeter of their habitat.

     

    I say build the fence and keep these illegal jaguars out.


  11. Hey, just saw your pics....nice! Did you just set the cam up in a saddle or was there some kind of water attracting the game there?

     

    Amanda

    It was in a saddle. The pictures span a period of 3 weeks. I had a total of 24 pics. Still using 35mm roll film. The camera was so far back in that it took me a while to get back to it.

     

     

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