I have Lupys, Nikons, and couple of Zeiss Rapid Z 800's. The Zeiss scopes are absolutely the clearest scopes I've ever owned, even compared side by side with the Swaro's my buddy has. Lupy used to be American made but now almost all of their glass (as well as most other mfg's) is made it the South Pacific. Even the last Nikon I got was made in the Asia! For a good price, I usually order them from www.theopticzone.com. If you call them, they will tell you the actual price which is usually quite a bit lower than the internet price. JMHO!