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Thanks, Casey. If that guy continues standing in the road, and doesn't pull his truck off it, there could be more weird deaths than just that turkey on that foggy highway. Bill Quimby

"Kinda" as a contraction of "kind of" is a valid word according to the dictionary software on my Mac. It supposedly originated in the early 20th century as an American aliteration. I'm guessing it began in southeast Arizona with someone named Lark and quickly spread around the globe. As for posting photos, I give up. Would someone post it for me if I email it to you? Bill Quimby

Kinda like this turkey? Bill Quimby

My hunting partner and I found a whitetail buck in Texas and a mule deer doe on the North Kaibab that were both still alive after tangling a leg in the barbed wire fences they had tried to jump. We released the whitetail, but it was so exhausted it couldn't get up. When we returned an hour later it was dead where we'd left it. We ran two coyotes off the Kaibab doe when we drove up to a waterhole, and she still was bleating when we walked up to her. The coyotes had eaten on her rump and pulled out a section of her intestines. She died before we left. I also found the skeleton of a big bull elk that had been caught by a rear hoof in the top two strands of a fence on the White Mountain Apache Reservation near the Big Bonito years ago when AZGFD still managed its wildlife. The fence ran around the side of a very steep hill, and the elk had died stretched out with his rear leg five or six feet above his head. He may have starved to death there. Nature can be cruel by our standards. Bill Quimby

Casey: PM me and I'll give you my email address if you don't have it. Don't know why, but I couldn't send you a PM. Never had that problem before. No matter. Emailing is faster and easier than going through this site, especially with my dialup modem down here. Are there any particular titles you're looking for? Bill Quimby

I've cut prices. Buy all three for $55, including postage. First "I'll take them," gets them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Boone and Crockett Club's 20th Big Game Awards 1986-1988 Edited by WM Nesbitt and Jack Reneau (1990) $25 --- SOLD Listings of more than 2,100 record animals, as well as photos and stories of the 96 trophies receiving awards in 1990 (including six new world records and 52 trophies in the top ten of their categories. The hardcover book is as new, the dust jacket has minor shelf wear. Includes a letter to me from Nesbitt promoting the book. ----------------------------------------------------------------- HUNTING SUPERBUCKS, How to Find and Hunt Record-Book Deer by Kathy Etling $18 --- includes media mail printing in USA Stackpole Books (1989), hardcover with dust jacket, 400 pages with 100 black & white photos. Experts Gene Wensel, Kirt Darner, Russell Hull, Gordon Blay, Bob Zaiglin and others tell how and where to outsmart record-class bucks. Book and dust jacket are very good. ----------------------------------------------------------------- WORLD RECORD WHITETAILS, The Complete History Of The Number One Bucks Of All Time by Gordon Whittington $20 includes media mail postage in USA Oversize, colorful book jointly published by Safari Press and Venture Press. (1998) Stated first edition. 246 pages. more than 100 color and black and white photos. As new hardcover book with as new dust jacket. America’s greatest typical and non-typical trophies taken with rifle, shotgun, bow, muzzleloader, and handgun. Includes the stories behind some of the famous and no-so-famous contenders, pretenders and near misses of whitetail history, including the true stories behind the Hanson, Hole-in-the-Horn, Jordan and St. Louis bucks, along with lesser-known heads. ================================================

AZGFD's fishing update claims ice is gone from Becker and some of the lakes on the Pinetop/Lakeside side of the mountain. There is a photo of a huge trout caught at Becker this week. You might try calling its Pinetop office and ask to speak to the regional fishing specialist. Bill Quimby

http://www.mercurynews.com/sci...r.it&utm_medium=feed Embattled California wildlife official who shot mountain lion refuses to resign By Paul Rogers FEB. 29, 2012 --- The embattled president of California's Fish and Game Commission pushed back at his critics Tuesday, telling them he did nothing wrong by killing a mountain lion on a big game hunt in Idaho. And he vowed not to resign. "While I respect our Fish and Game rules and regulations, my 100 percent legal activity outside of California, or anyone else's for that matter, is none of your business," Dan Richards wrote in a letter to state lawmakers calling for his ouster. Richards also wrote that "contrary to so many erroneous reports," he didn't use a high-powered rifle and "we did dine on Mountain Lion for dinner" that night. In recent days, 40 Democratic Assembly members and Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom have sent letters asking Richards to resign. They've accused him of thumbing his nose at California voters who have banned mountain lion hunting twice at the ballot box, in 1990 and 1996. If Richards, a Republican appointed to the commission by former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, doesn't quit he could be removed by the Legislature by a simple majority vote, which could tip the balance of the powerful commission away from hunting interests to environmental interests. At the end of his letter to Assemblyman Ben Hueso, D-San Diego, who has organized the campaign against him, Richards wrote: "There is ZERO chance I would resign my position." Hueso could not be reached for comment late Tuesday. But Jennifer Fearing, state director of the Humane Society of the United States, said the letter would only increase the likelihood that Richards will soon be removed by state lawmakers. "We never said Richards' Idaho trophy kill was illegal," she said. "We said it showed poor judgment. And this letter is just another example of horrendously bad decision-making and why Richards no longer has the trust of Californians and the Legislature." Meanwhile, Joseph Peterson, the guide who led Richards on the hunt in January at the 5,000-acre Flying B Ranch in northern Idaho, said Richards went to the ranch seeking to hunt pheasants. Peterson said that he asked Richards, whom he had not previously met, if he wanted to kill a mountain lion because the ranch was trying to stem a recent increase in the number of lions as a way to preserve deer and other big game popular with sport hunters there. "He killed the cat as a favor to me, to help our predator management on the ranch," Peterson said, adding that he did not charge Richards the ranch's normal $6,800 fee for a lion hunt. "The cat would have died if Dan was here or not," Peterson said. Peterson said he tracked the lion for 15 hours, and Richards tracked it for about eight hours, through miles of hilly country in the snow. After the lion, a 3-year-old male, was driven up a tree by hunting dogs, Richards shot it, he said. Richards sent a photo of himself holding the dead lion, which he left in Idaho to be taxidermied, to Western Outdoor News, a hunting newspaper. The paper published the photo, prompting an outcry from the Humane Society, Sierra Club and other groups. Peterson said he thinks Richards is being treated unfairly. But he added that Richards seemed to know his actions would be controversial in California, where former Gov. Ronald Reagan first banned mountain lion hunting in 1972 in five-year increments. California voters then made the ban permanent with the passage of Proposition 117 in 1990. "I didn't realize, although Dan may have, that it would cause that big of a fuss," Peterson said. "He knows the people in his state. He said he was going to have that photo in some publications down there. He mentioned it would cause some stir among the environmentalists. He knew it would cause some trouble." Peterson said critics, who have bombarded his Facebook page with negative comments, misunderstand much of his ranch's operation. The ranch kills only one to four lions a year on its property, he said. It also offers fly-fishing and other activities, along with hunts for birds, deer, wolves, bears and elk. And many of the people who hunt lions on the ranch actually consume them as they would venison, he said. "We do eat them," he said. "It's like lean pork. It's fairly common in Idaho and western Montana. I have guests who ask me to send them cougar meat from all over the country."

"Does anyone know when the 2012 draw results will be in by" The Shadow do. Bill Quimby

All three books listed in this thread have sold. TG: I have close to 2,000 books that I collected over the past fifty years. I don't want my heirs to sell everything to the first dealer who offers them a tenth of what they're worth so I'm selling them a few at a time. Most are on international big game hunting, including a lot of collectable African hunting books. I also have a few gun books and some natural history stuff. I don't have that many books on waterfowl and upland or small game, but I do have a few, including three unread Gene Hill books, two of them still in shrink wrap. The Hill books are at our cabin. PM me after about May 1 for them. Bill Quimby

The Boone & Crockett book is sold to Mark. Bill Quimby

"I still think hunting (in america) will not be gone, ever. I think the human race will be gone before hunting is gone. And i will hold to that. I also am becoming more involved in hunting to do my part in ensuring it is still around hundreds of years from now." I can only hope you are right and I am wrong but, as California hunters know too well, our ability to hunt depends upon on a majority of voters and politicians continuing to allow it. Voters can be moved away from us by well-funded and well-executed public relations campaigns, and politicians go where public opinion takes them. You are to be commended for introducing people to hunting. Bill Quimby

Thanks, ThomC. Bill Quimby

Nosajpo: Wish I were as optimistic as you, but there are only 23 million to 44 million hunters, depending upon who does the counting, and close to 313 million people in this country. And our numbers are not keeping pace with population growth. With 269 million to 290 million Americans now who have not hunted and never will, we represent only about 7% to 14% of the population and are vastly outnumbered. When those percentages shrink to 3% to 7%, which is inevitable given the human propensity to procreate, hunting will be in seriously deep doo doo. And, yes, law-abiding citizens will have no choice but to take it when hunting is banned by popular vote or by politicians such as those in California. At first, there may be some like you who will ignore laws and continue hunting. Eventually, though, public opinion will equate killing a wild animal to the murder of a human and demand penalties to reflect that thinking. A twenty years to life sentence for killing a deer would make even the most avid hunter think twice before poaching. We will not lose hunting in what little is left of my lifetime, or perhaps even yours, but it is doomed as we know it. Fortunately for us, it will happen gradually, starting as it did in California, with banning the hunting of a single species, such as mountain lions, without any scientific reason to do so. Next might come bans on hunting bighorns, mountain goats, bears, pronghorn antelope or the rarer species of waterfowl. Species that are widespread and numerous, such as deer and elk, will be among the last to be totally protected. Trappers and houndsmen at one time thought what they do would never be seriously threatened, but just look at the laws that various western states (including Arizona) have passed in the last twenty years. More restrictions will surely come in the next twenty years. As for controlling wildlife numbers, that can be done more efficiently by professional cullers (as is already being done in some places in southern Africa) but the public will demand that culling be used only when absolutely necessary and only after all efforts to transplant and sterilize animals -- or introduce predators -- have been tried and failed. There will be delays caused by trying and failing, of course, and wildlife control ultimately will be done as it was done before Europeans reached this continent -- by starvation and disease or a similar crisis. Bill Quimby

Nosjapo: Unfortunately, although many hunters live in cities, they (and those who support what we do) no longer are a majority in this state or in California. Whether hunting continues ultimately will be decided by folks in cities who are so far removed from the outdoors and rural life that most have never seen a chicken plucked or a deer cut into steaks and roasts. To them, bacon was immaculately conceived in packages. Believe it or not, a lot of them have never thought about where their leather shoes, belts and purses, even their hamburgers, originated. Incidentally, please don't wish for another big earthquake in San Francisco. My granddaughter and traveling buddy is a university professor there, and she definitely is not opposed to hunting, Bill Quimby

Take a look at the circulation numbers for the papers that still report on hunting and fishing news, and whether their markets are urban or still rural. Newspapers in the larger markets began purposely decreasing their hunting and fishing coverage in the late 1980s. Before I retired from the Tucson Citizen in 1994, I was told to reduce the emphasis on "blood sports" on the outdoors page and provide more coverage on "participant sports" such as hiking, birdwatching, mountain climbing and biking, parasailing and ballooning, wildlife and wild flower photography and similar things, including local charro and cowboy polo events. I resisted as much and as often as I could, but to no avail. It was one of the reasons I left after 27 years there. Another was suddenly being restricted to only one day outside the office to gather material for two columns and an outdoor page each week after a new publisher put me to work on the copy desk, editing and rewriting articles by other reporters four days a week. The final straw came when the paper began publishing barely disguised anti-hunting opinion pieces by two reporters as news stories on page one. Bill Quimby

Back to top with lower prices. Bill Quimby

The scary part of this story is that history has shown that as California goes, so will Arizona eventually. We used to be a rural state, but no more. Of the nearly 6.5 million people the Census Bureau counted in our state recently, two thirds live in the cities of Maricopa and Pima counties. Bill Quimby

Hi Mark: Your father is listed in my copy of B&C's 20th Big Game Awards as taking the No. 5 non-typical Coues deer in Cochise County in 1986. Its score was 131 3/8. PM me if you want the book. I can meet you with it somewhere here in Tucson or I can mail it. Bill Quimby

Kudu and gemsbok actually don't need premium bullets, and I've killed springbuck and impala in their tracks with the lowly .222. Eland, wildebeest and zebra are the toughest critters you'll encounter (except for elephant, buffalo and rhino) in Africa, but your 180 grain Barnes should do just fine. I shoot 175-grain Nosler Partitions in my 7 mm Remington Magnum, but it's only because Partitions are all I've ever used on large African antelope. They've always done what I wanted done, so I've felt no need to try other bullets. Best of luck on your first safari. If you are like everyone else, just one won't be enough. It's like trying to eat just one potato chip. Bill Quimby

Snapshot: The animal rights crowd believes that having a pet is akin to slavery. They believe that humans cannot possess an animal, and that animals have as many (if not more) rights that we do. Bill Quimby

Congratulations. Bill Quimby

Don't know why anyone would be surprised that animal rights freaks want to kill humans who don't agree with them. The death threats I got from my hunting and fishing columns in the Tucson Citizen in the 1970s, 80s and 90s were downright scary, especially when they also included my wife and daughter. Bill Quimby

... and many more, Scotty! Sorry we didn't get to talk at the SCI show in Las Vegas. Bill Quimby

If they are in a thicket and you can hear them, sit where you can watch the escape routes. One will eventually show itself. You also could try getting above the thicket and tossing a few SMALL rocks into it to try to get them moving. If you're impatient, try using a mouth-blown varmint call. Call continuously and shrilly. If you see one or two, don't stop calling until you feel you have time to grab your rifle and shoot it. Sometimes a herd's first reaction to a call is to bolt in the opposite direction, but if you keep calling, the herd usually will stop, turn around and head back to you. Another tip: If you miss a shot at an animal that is on its feeding ground, don't move. The herd may run off, but it often will return to the same spot 15 to 30 minutes later. Good luck. Bill Quimby