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Glad to hear you're getting that worked out. I beleive I'll be taking my business there as well....a solid reference means more to mean that a fancy shot and website any day of the week. You better get out there soon and arrow a good buck speedy.....represent the mesa boys!

It was a great weekend. Got the wife and kids out for some fishing and looking for deer and elk. The little ones and the wife caught some fish during our picnic. Drove Unit 22 thereafter and saw about 30 cows and 3 bulls: two of them were 4points and then one spike. Saw a bear too and it's been haunting my dreams...too far to get too but he was a monster (his pic was taken through some swaro's at about a mile and 1/2 distance). I can honestly say the outdoors are much for fulfilling when you got the family all with you. It was a great weekend and a great tease for the hunting season!! Enjoy the pics, they are a little poor quality. They were taken through a cell phone.

Only about 20 min...the sun hit him and he was on the move. Smart bear...hoping to bag him by the end of the year. Actually my cousin is looking to get this bear....I hope that he has a bigger older brother waiting for me

Hey speedy can you PM the link? If this is a "rule" then I have broken it!

haha touche

123456: "one of them managed to arrow 2 coues deer in 4 months in Arizona." Did these guys know there is a bag limit of "1" in a calendar year?? Sounds like baiting is not his problem

haha nice. He looks more like Golem from Lord of the Rings holding his Precious

get some of that 3-d camo clothing. Its mesh and completely breathable yet can cover your whole body and keep the bugs off. If you are hunting in the desert then there is not much you can do about the heat however this may be a good option for you. You can wear shorts and a t-shirt underneath to keep cool. I like thermacells but they do not seem to work as well as they advertise....not to much else you can do about bugs...I know there is a desert bush that is a natural repellent as well. Anyone remember the name of it??? I would say check out 3-d camo cover clothing though. Bass pro, cabelas, sportsmans all carries it

+1 And that's the rest of the story- Paul Harvey Great info thank you

As others have said I appreciate the professionalism and the information shared however I do not agree. CWD may be a worry but it sounds more like a weak political platform to limit hunt numbers. If the CDC cannot even identify how the disease is actually transmitted why is G&F so sure baiting will curb the spread. There are not many documented cases as previously mentioned. If it is actually spread through saliva or bodily fluid then you would have to get rid of water, natural limestone licks and even keep the deer from humping eachother during the rut. 22 & 23 are a couple of the most popular coues units in the state...of course we are going to see more hunters etc especially with the growth in payson over the past 20 or even 10 years. Further more I agree that it is ridiculous to base solid game management off partial reporting numbers. Take any successful business....do you think a 40% accuracy benchmark in reporting will fly???? It wouldn't in my company and if I tried to convince investors otherwise....I'd be out of a job pretty quick.

now that is a great spot! good luck!

Awesome pics and story...congrats on the great hunt!

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Looks like you guys had an awesome trip! That Dorado fish is crazy lookin'

Those coues are huge!!!!!!!! Hope you get one on your wall this year. Looks like you got a great spot...that elk sure seems to like it haha.

Great job!!! There are hundreds of deer thanking you

Opticnerd: I will not speak for DesertBull (althout I imagine he would agree) but the reference to letting people hunt the way they want did not include illegal activities. My reference did include baiting however as this is what the core discussion is about. You used an interesting analogy "Golf tournament." Suppose we do use this...when playing golf every participate has the option to use the club he/she wishes and it is up to them to judge what is most effective. I would not tell another person what they are doing wrong unless they asked or I felt that it could better their experience. In such a sitution I would do it in the manner that would not ruin their time of enjoyment. Furthermore, just like hunting I do not tell other hunters how to hunt. Whether it be over water, in a treestand, over salt or even a pile of corn. It is up to them as long as it is done legally. In addition to this we (in the West) we have a different culture of hunting versus that of the East. We have an abundance of open area and networks of roads for access. Many area in the East hunt exclusively over bait, plots or farm fields....are they any less ethical than we are? I would venture to say no they have just adapted a method of hunting that suits the area and they do it quite well. There is law and case law to everything....I think we can agree its not all black and white. As for your baiting effectiveness question....I love putting blocks and corn out and have never seen a difference nor has my family who run cattle ranches/hunting outfits. Animals may become wary of areas perhaps there is excessive calling or hunting pressure but they will always come to food eventually especially when it is scare. Just like the watering hole concept.

I'd say its on about a 1/3 of the patrol vehicles but that is only city. I do not know if highway patrol is equipt with them. I would venture to say less than 400 yards is the effective pickup range. No offense but putting a lo-jack system (as is) is basically worthless especially for game cameras unless you have the receptor, have the sytems constantly activated and stay close to the camera. You would be better off putting in your iphone and picking up the gps signal from a desktop computer. It would be funny though to see a swarm of patrol cars converge on a home thinking there is a stolen vehicle in it only to find a trail camera that a theif picked up.

Using a helicopter to scout/take game is illegal anyway in AZ. +1 DesertBull Although I might still voice my opinon I would voice it with the understanding that it is worth what it cost me to give $0.00 and would be mindful not to ruin another hunters experience.

My money is on a mt lion. Great buck though...good luck!

Like huntjukie I agree that gay marriage is a distraction issue when it comes to politics however for me it is fundamentally important. To each his own but as long as the fight continues I firmly support that the family unit consisting of a Father & a Mother and will ensure that my children understand this as well. Yes, there are many issues like our poor econmony, hunger and health care but none of these compare to the breakdown of the traditional family unit in my eyes.

Great info, I appreciate you sharing this. I have been looking into the Vortex PST myself but it'll take me more time before I can afford one. Thanks

If you plan on shooting over 700 yards I would look closer at a 75+ MOA adjustment. This nikon reads as follows: Max Internal Adjustment 20 MOA Thats not alot. I have a vortex viper 4-12x40 and it has 54 or so MOA and I can't get out past 600 yards so I upgraded to the PST 4-16x50 EBR-1 MOA that has 75 MOA adjustment and put a 20 MOA base with Nightforce rings so maybe I can get past 800 now. My .308 requires 20.50 MOA at 700 yards and when you mount the scope you will use some MOA (i used about 30) just to sight it in to a 100 to 200 yard zero leaving only around 17 or 18 MOA for me to adjust. Look at the MOA adjustment if you are wanting long range that will make or break you desicion. This is a novice questions but you brought up a good point- Can you just buy different Turrets which can give you 75+ MOA or is this something that is built into the scope itself?

Ohhh now I see..... Its Roswell New Mexico...no doubt. You see, in pic #2 the deer is clearly eating the alien inside the spaceship. Then, in pic #3, the deer is now possesed by the alien- note the glowing eyes. Hope you bag one of those bucks this year! Leave some for me though....want to start hunting down there next year!

great post. I hate how hypocritical the libs are. They cry that they have the freedom of speech and can say what they want yet they pounce on anyone who speaks out against gay marriage. I am sure that all the tree huggin' hippies in the media have a role in this.