bonecollector777

Your opinion has no value here if you're not over 45 and have hunted at least 20 states. Until then keep your opinion to yourself. it doesn't matter that you grew up in AZ and have hunted it your whole life and could possibly know more than the game and fish about what's going on out there in the forest. If game and fish says it's good to give 600 late 27 tags then it's good dang it! Just trust them. They know everything.

You actually said you would give thue honor to game and fish for having big animals. to which I responded that that was funny and it was due to genes. Then you went off on your rant. Get your story straight. So we have come to the conclusion that genes and habitat/feed play a role in big animals. tell me how in the heck azgfd is controlling the habitat and feed? (I guess you could argue they are wiping out the animals so there is more feed for the ones that have survived. But then that would prove my point which you don't want to do.) Therefore azgfd have nothing to do with AZ having big animals. If a private organization was hired to control our hunting and fishing they still wouldn't have anything to do with us having big animals. AZ has big animals because of natural reasons. Genes, habitat, feed etc. Not because game and fish is managing them to be big.

I'm waiting for an experience based argument, do you have one? I'm sick and tired of everyone bashing our g and f department, and if you can't handle a fact filled argument, then why are we even discussing this. Just go back to hating in general if you want ,it's all good, but please have some facts or observations based on experience, please. Seems like it's easier these days to open mouth and insert foot without any facts to back it up. Sorry i've actually been out there to witness in person what i'm talking about.Your "fact" based argument is "I've been everywhere and hunted more than you and I'm old and your young so I know more so listen to me and stop bashing game and fish." Haha I love the hypocrisy.

If I recall I didn't mention anything about comparing other states. You brought that up and went on a rant. I'm talking about our state. Az. Not Colorado or Montana or utah. AZ. If you think 3c is anywhere near the quality it was 5-10 years ago you're in LA LA land. It's understandable if you think 340-350 bulls are big. But I'm talking 375+ bulls. BUT what do I know. I'm only 24. And have lived in 3c my whole life and been out there every day.

I also enjoy the conceded attitude of well since I'm older and I've hunted longer I'm right and your wrong. Listen to me because I'm old and have hunted everywhere. You're young so you don't know anything. Haha classic

Haha man I love seeing the guys that think kissing a$$ on a forum is gonna be good for them in the long run. I'll give credit to the genetics and habitat but there's no way you're gonna convince me that azgfd has caused our animals to be big. The only reason 3c doesn't have top tier animals anymore is because of azgfd killing them off. They are doing the same in 27 and 1. Give it a few years and quality will be down big time there. The Arizona strip has huge deer because of genetics. If you argue with that I don't know what to tell you. The strip is some of the most rough and desolate country you'll see yet every year there are monster bucks. That's not because of mild winters. But continue on. . Keep worshipping them and praising them. I get a kick out of seeing which one of you guys have your noses stuck up azgfd's butt.

giving the honor to game and fish for having big animals? Hahaha that's the funniest thing I've heard all year. We have big animals because of genetics.

Also it upsets me at how incompetent our game and fish is. They can't get a simple investigation right. Makes you wonder if they didn't botch it on purpose. They couldn't convict 4 guys that were blatantly guilty of multiple serious offenses but I guarantee they wouldn't screw up our investigation if one of us shot 1 too many quail over the limit or shot from the road etc.

Haha you might want to know what you're talking about before you post prowlerman. All that means is that an attorney can't use it as precedence in future cases, because it's a memorandum decision. It won't be published in a case reporter. And for the record I understand he sued because he feels he was treated unfairly. The part I find ridiculous is they all got away without any punishment for the things they did wrong yet he sticks it to the company he works for that does something wrong to him. They could have punished all of them severely for what they did but like always they stick up for their wardens no matter what they do and then they get sued. And who does that money come from to pay the wannabe law enforcement officer? From us.

I think draw results need to be posted soon so everyone can get some stress off their backs and chill. Haha its all azgfd's fault!

I know a few guys that are picking up around 5000-600 pounds a year still. But they go out every day every free second.

haha man, gonna traumatize the kid.

call the Cops and I bet they can look up who owns the vehicle in about 15 seconds. Not too hard. Trying to figure out who it is by yourself is next to impossible.

Hey I remember seeing that blonde bear die! Nice rugs Keith . .

Went out with my wife after church today for a couple hours and found these bad boys! There was sign everywhere in the area so I knew it was gonna happen soon and bam found one off a little trail and circled to find the other side but no luck. As it was getting dark we were headed back to the truck and topped a little rise and bam there was the other side! About 400-500 yards apart. Not the biggest bull but I'll take it. Also found this ancient little coues deer antler. My wife is six months pregnant and did great walking the hills with me and was as excited as I was when we found them. It was her first time being out when we found something so she was pretty happy.

Pretty sure nothing has been loaded into the system if guys are still getting calls and charges. That new website is nice but could use some organization.

Yes, it's just a 10% cap. Technically if it worked out NR could get zero tags for a certain hunt.

If you draw and there aren't any tags left for NR but 100 tags left for resident you both get kicked out and don't draw.

If you apply with a NR you're basically treated as a NR too. No matter who is applicant A or B.

Sad part is nearly every one of us would pass out our credit card info to anyone calling from azgfd due to the excitement And losing our minds. Be careful. I could see some losers taking advantage of this and costing people a lot of money. But as for doing the above to a friend. That's totally fine haha

(I have nothing to do with the Heber Overgaard Chamber of Commerce. I am from Heber and am simply passing this on to anyone that might be interested. If I'm not allowed to post it please erase it.) Heber Overgaard chamber of commerce is putting on a raffle for a brand new 2015 Powerstroke, 32 foot camp trailer, and $30,000 cash to the first prize winner. Second prize will be a 2015 ranger with $4000 cash and third prize is a 2015 aluminum boat with $2000 cash. All of the money goes to help fund activities in the area such as the fourth of July celebration. Here is a link to the website for all the info if you want to buy a ticket. $100 each or 3 for $250. Only 3950 tickets will be sold. http://tallpinesraffle.com/

Haha I love all the different stories from people. " I called and they said they are done charging" "I called and they said they have 800 cards to charge", " I called and they said they have thousands of cards to charge still", " I called and they said results are out this week.", I called and they said results are out middle of April", "I called and they gave me three elk tags!", Ever think those ladies down there hate everyone calling them so much they decided to give a everyone a different story to drive people crazy?

How many points she have for that?

Calling BS, thousands of people? if they had 2000 people to call and could call someone every 5 minutes all day long that's 120 hours of straight calling.

Don't we all