bonecollector777

Smokin' deal! Just bought some 12X 50 razors or I'd be all over it.

Gonna charge the poor kid $100 an hour to show him how to skin, flesh, and stretch a cat? Pretty steep . . That's attorney wages right there.

Little late comin' in with that one. . I think maybe 5-6 guys before you said the same idiotic thing. Good try though trying to say something worthwhile. Maybe next time.

They are public enemy #1, #2, and #3 in my mind.Amen to that!

Just curious what everyone thinks about this. . Game and Fish depends greatly depends on us hunters and fishermen to function. To be exact the receive around 28 million dollars just in license and tag fees (That's before the price raise this year) plus another 17 million from taxes on hunting and fishing supplies. Basically around 50% of their money comes from us just because we love to hunt. They know that and have obviously been abusing their duties. 1.They work for the people (US) yet all they care about are themselves and their new trucks and government retirement plans. 2.Their website for the draw has about as many problems as the healthcare.gov website. Yet they don't improve it and it crashes every year. 3. They have supported introduction of Mexican wolves simply to make money from the federal government. They know Mexican wolves will do absolutely no good for the other wildlife here in the state. 4. They have given out so many tags in some areas that the population of certain animals is so low you can't find a decent buck or bull. 5.They feel they are above the law because they are the law. They do what they want without any fear of any consequences because they know nothing will happen to them. See Shawn Wagner case just for one example. 6. They don't even have enough people to answer a phone call at their offices. 7. They waste millions of dollars every year driving their commissioner and employees to expos and banquets and hunts. 8. They kill Jaguars with snares and are killing bighorn sheep on a daily basis (Catlina Mountains) 9. To sum it up, They are just plain worthless, money hungry, and selfish. So what I'm trying to get at is if there anything we can do to stop them or make things change? They obviously don't listen to us at public meetings and it's not like we can vote them out. So do they have us by the ba**s and know we can't stop them? If something doesn't change soon were gonna lose our youth hunters. I already know a lot of people not putting in because even if they put in and don't draw it costs their family $250+. And if they get drawn it's way over $500 per average family. All the while azgfd is buying their new toys with the cash and paying their retired employees more than we make at a regular job. Just wondering if there are any ideas to get something done. An all out boycott of the draw would be practically impossible due to losing bonus points by not putting in. Any other ideas to let azgfd were tired of it?

This whole argument is about how expensive tags are for us in Arizona. A couple of people have posted quite plainly that arizona is higher in licenses and tag fees compared to other states. Those other states like Wyoming have just as much wildlife to manage yet they manage to do it will much less money. How does that work? Your argument about having to leave to hunt in other states or on reservations is ridiculous. I have hunted in Texas and paid around 100 bucks and was able to kill four turkeys and as many varmints and hogs as I could handle. That's out of state prices that are cheaper than in state prices here. And I would only get to kill 1 turkey here! Obviously you and azgfd have the same attitude. . If they want to hunt they will have to pay whatever we say they will pay and if they don't like it they can just quit hunting. Well guess what? There are already a lot of guys not putting in and we will lose them and their kids that would have been hunters. As they raise them and raise them more and more people will stop. Which is what you want it sounds like. As long as your odds are better to get a tag screw everyone else.

Completely stupid comparison. If I don't like jack in the box I go to mcdonalds, burger king, sonic, taco bell, Carl's jr., kfc, dairy queen, wendys, panda express, subway etc. . . If I don't like the prices of azgfd and still want to hunt elk in my state I go to. . Wait there isn't anyone else to go to. So therefore it's I pay whatever price these idiots come up with or I don't hunt. If I don't like jack in the box I have about a hundred other choices for a better bargain. Azgfd knows they have the power to charge whatever they want and we will pay it if we want to hunt. That's what the argument is here.

That was fast. . Sweet rifle!

http://www.azgfd.gov/eservices/BonusPointProcess.shtml

Haha where do you find all of these GIF's trphyhntr?

Is the 7.62X39 a box of 20?

JUST in case youre talking to me I understand that rule quite well according to the ARS: "Fur dealer" means any person engaged in the business of buying for resale the raw pelts or furs of wild mammals.

I erased the post but as for messing with the bobcat god hyper sorry I won't stop. Thanks I'm slightly confused though how when I state a law straight from the AZGFD about buying fur I'm suddenly the bad guy?

Heck now I even have people getting mad at me for trying to obey the law. I can't win here. Lol

Now now hyper don't go breaking the law buying people's furs without the proper license Wouldn't want you getting in trouble!http://www.azgfd.gov/eservices/special_licenses/fur_dealer.shtml

Thought azgfd didn't support the whole wolf thing jcubed? They seem pretty interested in the pack in the story they posted on their site.http://azgfd.net/artman/publish/NewsMedia/Plan-announced-for-2014-Mexican-wolf-releases-in-Arizona2.shtml

Are they skinned and stretched? If so your best bet would be to take the cat up to the Kingman sale or have someone take it up for you. You would get the most money that way. The coyotes you can take to a buyer in Globe and he will give you a good price. pm sent

First post I have ever seen of yours and I think you need to learn how to spell 😯And please don't hurt my feelings like that 😭 I can't take one more person saying something about me on here! Hahaha

Buy the best and cry once. .

Hyper why you trapping out people's back doors? That's what got everyone in trouble over in california. Try and blur out the houses a little better next time. You can still see the trees and grass in the backgriund. Gonna ruin it for all of us if you catch someone's pet.

Except you are trying to kill Bobcats when they are in traps. You're not trying to get elk tangled up in some rope or wire possibly killing them just to try and get their horns pulled off before they are ready to drop.

The full bore from Easton is a great pack. I bought one around Christmas time and I love it. You can load a lot of antlers on it without having a problem I'm sure. And can't beat the price for 89 bucks on camofire

Last years bobcats I did see. Very small and average put up. Sorry but that's my opinion. I can and will admit your placement at the very end of the sale could have impacted sale price. I did not consider that you was at the tail end. My apologies on not taking that into account. 348-352 were my lots. I purposely came in at that time and even let some guys go in front of me in line. I will still make the stand that a trappers put up is a good portion of the price. Sorry if my comments came across as offensive. I post like that a lot and need to work on it. I averaged 790 dollars on 8 cats in Globe hyper. Not sure what cats you were looking at. I had 3 over 40 inches and none under 35 so if those are small I'd love to see your 50 inch cats you catch. Kingman I had some worse cats but still averaged 450. I had one cat under 34 that I called in and the rest were 36+ with 2 cats over 40. Post up some pics of your 50 inch perfectly stretched cats please. I'd love to see them.

Dude I'm a college student that drives a 2004 toyota corolla. And I spend about 100 days in the woods whenever I can. I would love to have a 50,000 truck though. Maybe I should become a g and f warden so I can get one! And believe me I know G&F doesn't care about what I say or what you say or what any of us say. That's my point. A lot of guys here do care about it because it affects us. Apparently you have the 50,000 truck judging of the truck in your avatar. And must have plenty of money to throw around to the azgfd if you don't care about the increase at all.

I think you two above are missing the point here. Game and fish doesn't give a shizz about what you say to them. They know what they are gonna do and they are gonna do it. And a few guys like yourselves get warm fuzzy feelings inside thinking they are listening to what your saying as if they are thinking about changing their minds.