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Air Gun coming to archery seasons in AZ
bonecollector777 replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
I have no idea who made up the number of 2-300 yards. It's literally just a made up number. 100 yards maybe 110-120 is the max you're gonna get out of one of these. A regular crossbow shoots the bolts the same speed at 450 fps. Just because it uses air instead of energy from a limb it suddenly can launch the arrows 200 extra yards?- 98 replies
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bonecollector777 replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
If you can't walk is it you either get out of the truck and off the road to shoot or you don't hunt?- 98 replies
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Air Gun coming to archery seasons in AZ
bonecollector777 replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
life isn't fair but there's nothing wrong with letting more people in on the sport. The percentage of people with crossbow permits vs regular archery hunters is miniscule. If a couple guys get to go have a good time when they otherwise couldn't and can enjoy the woods like the rest of the archery world what's wrong with that?- 98 replies
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bonecollector777 replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
Pope and youngs positions on the crossbow is. . . Not during archery season. So let me know when these groups go after crossbows. Send me whatever I need to sign. Thanks- 98 replies
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bonecollector777 replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
Would you like me to pull your buck from P&Y... among other reasons? Ed F If that's pope and youngs stance on the subject too, absolutely. I have a brother that has never been interested in trying bowhunting due to a medical condition. Until this proposal came out and he's over the top excited about it now knowing he has an equal chance of taking an animal. If an organization is against that I don't want to be a member. I appreciate what pope and young and ABA does for people in our sport and if that's their stance that's fine. I just don't want to support it when it hurts my family member.- 98 replies
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bonecollector777 replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
Crossbows literally shoot the same speed and Noone is crying about that? If you can shoot an airbow 200 yards you can shoot a crossbow 200 yards as well. You'd think doctors wouldn't lie in a medical form to get guys a crossbow. There's nothing game and fish can do about that. You may not have typed anything regarding the pope and young and crossbows but it's in the file you attached from the az bowhunters association. I'm curious if you have something to do with the association and if that truly is their official stance on the subject and if BIA record book has the same stance. If so please contact me so I can withdraw my membership and any animals I have entered.- 98 replies
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bonecollector777 replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
Make sure to go after crossbows all together rather than just stopping airbows. You know because pope and young says so.- 98 replies
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bonecollector777 replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
Just read your proposal you attached. Crossbow killed animals have never been able to be entered into pope and young anyway so who cares if pope and young says you can't enter airbow kills? Also according to your definitions crossbows aren't considered "bows" because it's not made or one strip of material held together by a string at two ends. Your proposal makes it sound like we're arming regular perfectly capable hunters with airbows to have an advantage over the animal and other hunters. You forget the hunters using these weapons generally have several other issues normal hunters don't have to deal with regarding walking/stalking/drawing a weapon.- 98 replies
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bonecollector777 replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
So you want to punish people that already have a hard time hunting. Get outta here. There are strict guidelines on handicap people being able to get a crossbow permit. This simply helps them have another option of weapon to use that helps them enjoy hunting and make it easier to hunt. Instead of using energy from limbs to launch an arrow it's letting them use a weapon that uses air to launch and arrow. Big deal. Hopefully you just misunderstood what you read and don't truly want to punish those that already have a hard time hunting due to no fault of their own. If you did understand that and still want to stop them from being able to use pneumatic weapons then you need help.- 98 replies
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Haha you kill me..
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Don't know where you live but up north at Heber and Taylor snowflake and Show Low Timber Mesa they are always sending crews out in the summertime. Many times they don't have enough people to staff a truck and they may be able to use him. Like mentioned before he would be working off an engine or occasionally a type-6 truck. It would get him some experience. I'll have to check into it but some departments could possibly require him to be an EMT if he is going to work under them so that could be a problem.
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where did you pull that info from? what info you talking about?
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What scopes do you have together to make it?
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Seeing the elk transplant to West Virginia I was curious if it would ever be possible to transplant moose to AZ? Up by Flag or Alpine seems high enough for them to live. I understand West Virginia had a prior elk population way back when and AZ never had a moose population but just curious if anyone thinks that would be a possibility.
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There are actually going to be more now. instead one at the water there will be one or more on every trail leading to the water. Not possible a quarter mile out without using 10+ cameras per water source. There's too many trails going to water when you're out a quarter mile from the water.
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Pm me I live here in 3c and helped a few guys last year on this hunt. I can give you some pointers on areas to check out and areas to avoid.
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Cabelas military discount program seems to be going liberal P.C.
bonecollector777 replied to hoghntr's topic in The Campfire
Toughen up big guy no need to get your feelings hurt or let someone get on your nerves on an internet forum. Also curious what I lied about? I was about as upfront about the whole deal as you could be. But since I paid a fine and didn't end up going to prison over an $80 camera I somehow deserve to be shot to please you people. My question is how does someone who is one of the main guides of the outfitter (who I'm sure you're affiliated with or buddies with) that involved my camera deal takes a client on the reservation, gets caught, things confiscated and he's still working for them. Little bit of a double standard when it involves them breaking laws. -
My money says Blake made that profile so he could victimize himself ... 😃 Got me!Needed someone to feel bad for me on this site.
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According to my records I show 8 bucks taken last year in Unit 10 over 80 inches out of 170 tags and only 1 over 85 (maybe 2). For comparison, in 2016 I show 32 bucks over 80 inches and 7 over 85. That's a huge difference in quality from one year to the next even if I missed a few bucks. And 2015 was similar to 2016. In 2015 we guided to 4 bucks in Unit 10: 90.500 84.500 87.750 86.250 In 2016 we guided to 3 bucks in Unit 10: 87.000 93.000 92.250 What the numbers don't show is that 3 of the bucks we killed in 2015 were our backup bucks! It's tough to outmaneuver a crowd of 100 people on that rifle hunt and if you don't have a lot of great backup bucks your hunt could turn south pretty quickly. Last year the backup bucks were much smaller overall than previous years so we chose to wait another year with our hunter. Do you personally agree unit 10 can handle that many tags year after year? I know there are a lot of antelope but I'd imagine that many bucks dying year after year quality was bound to drop pretty quickly isn't it? Is that what's finally happening?
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Man I can get blamed for hating game and fish even when I'm defending game and fish. I can't imagine what I have ever done to anyone to deserve my whole family getting cancer but it sounds like you have some issues you might want to get checked out. Especially coming from someone I've never even had contact with.
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Your mother would disagree. .
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If you go back and read earlier posts you'll see I was one of the few actually defending azgfd on this subject. I'm simply saying azgfd could have just realized hey we screwed up but there's no way to fix it now so let's make these guys happy that are pissed off this happened and say we're giving the tags to who deserved them next in line. Then simply erase them off the list and repost the list. Not angry with azgfd at all actually. Pretty impressed with the draw process this year.
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Swarovski ATX 95MM- price drop
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I'd like to hear from someone if they know anyone that actually got some of the tags they removed. I'd bet they just said that to appease the mob and erased them off the list and reposted it. Would be much easier.