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The answer is....well, it's complicated.... From your picture it looks to me like it would be a normal tine coming off the main beam and therefore the mass would be taken between the two points and thus the buck would be penalized for it's lack of symmetry in tine number and mass measurements. However, if you think that tine is a branch off the 3rd and doesn't come off the main beam, then it's a abnormal point and you would take your circumference 1/2 way to the end of the main beam as you mentioned. There is a special rule for a situation called Common base points also that may apply here. Common base points are points that are somewhat joined near the base and share some webbing between them. In order to determine if they are common base points, you have to take a look at the cross section of the base and see if it would form a clear figure eight. I am not sure if this link will work ok, but I did a search for common base points boone and crockett and you might be able to read all it about it here: http://books.google.com/books?id=OhFnqfEqIC8C&pg=PA31&dq=boone+and+crockett+common+base+points&hl=en&sa=X&ei=P2UgT6D5KuarsQKPwt2pDg&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=boone%20and%20crockett%20common%20base%20points&f=false

Looks good! nice work.

I think one of the legal issues is insurance and that has held us back from doing more tournaments. In order to get a permit from the agency that manages the lake, you will likely have to provide liability insurance. I believe that with regard to tournament payouts, you have to pay out all the money you take in.

I am all for a CouesWhitetail.com bowfishing tournament, neat idea! Let me know what I can do to help with it. I probably can't attend, but if someone agrees to organize it, I can mass email members periodically to keep everyone informed.

I honestly do not know, I don't know how to measure antlers. Maybe when I see Amanda at the Women's Javi Hunt she can measure it for me! Thanks everyone!!! Bring it and I will measure it for you!

Congratulations!! That's a bummer you didn't get to make it happen with your bow, but congratulations on your buck! Looks like long beams on that buck! Javier will be donating the same hunt to the AZ Deer Association banquet again this year, so you just might get your chance to go back.

Wow, congratulations!! Thanks for sharing your story and photos, great hunt and ram! and what a blessed person you are to have drawn two sheep tags!

Very nice tribute..sorry you lost a friend.

Actually, as I posted before, I haven't decided on this yet. When making a decision about this, I think it's important to get as many facts as possible. I think it's important to hear from lots of hunters, the AGFD commission, other sportsmens groups as well as the people who created this bill. I expect to be attending a meeting next week with the sportsmens groups to discuss this issue. Just wondering if you did in fact attend a meeting on this subject. If so what did you find out. Thanks! No, I didn't. As I understand it, the meeting was cancelled since the bill was dropped.

Looks good!!

Hope you guys are out in the hills somewhere having a great day!

Hopefully most of you have seen the banner ad at the top of the forum promoting this contest that Sportsmans Warehouse has been holding. Well the deadline is coming up in a couple days and so if you want to enter your buck or bull, the time is now! You have to enter your trophy by Saturday. Call the mesa sportsmans warehouse for more info or just stop by the store with your trophy and fill out the entry form. Basically you leave the trophy there and they will have them all SCI scored the following Saturday and announce the winners. Top winners get a few hundred bucks to spend at Sportsmans! I stopped by the store the other day and saw some GREAT trophies! There were some excellent Coues, Muleys and Elk. The trophies are displayed up on the ceiling and it's hard to get good photos, especially with just my cell phone, but here are a few pics. Check out the coues in velvet!! It's hanging upside down and was really hard to get pics of, but it's a brute. some stuff had just come in and was still in the manager's office...some nice muleys and coues: and some pics as they turned them in:

Just wanted to remind you all about this camp....if you know any ladies interested in learning to hunt, please have them contact me. All the hunt info is on this page: http://www.coueswhitetail.com/womens_javelina_hunt_2012.htm

Congratulations!! AWESOME job! Don't forget to enter your buck in the Coues buck contest...here is the link to info about the contest: http://www.coueswhitetail.com/Coues_Buck_Contest_2011/coues_buck_contest_2011-12.htm

LOL!! While I do indeed expect hunters to follow the law and not drive quads off road or leave trash at campsites, I certainly see it all the time and it's very dissapointing. This post raises the issue and I am glad to see that but blaming all AZ hunters? really? I pretty much always come home with more trash than I started with because it's my opinion that I should leave a place in better condition than I found it whenever possible. I hope a lot of you do the same because we can't completely control what others do but instead can control what we do to help the situation.

Did you get video of him rutting the does? That would be fun to see him chasing around mule deer does. It certainly does happen often enough that a lot of people have witnessed whitetail bucks chasing muley does.

Wow, Congratulations on the double!

As Darr pointed out in his first post the regs show they left the 40 lbs for buffalo, but 30lbs for most anything else. There seemed to be a typo for the turkey part of the regs where it said you could use a bow with a pull of 40 30 pounds....

Craig, Are you still looking for more DIY stories or is your next edition full already? Amanda

Cool!!!! Thanks for posting.

Which raises the question....should there be different draw weights for different big game? Maybe 30 lbs for deer and javelina but 40 for elk?

Good story!! There can't be too many cases where a guy meets an ER nurse during his hunt that takes him out to a great hunting spot! LOL!! Glad your dad is recovering and congratulations on your buck!

Thanks for the info Darr! I had heard they were considering the change but didn't know it went into effect already.

I actually think that seeing lone javelina or smaller groups (2-3) is often due to herds being broken up due to hunting pressure. Some hunter goes in and makes a shot and the javelina herd scatters and although most make it back together, for others it takes awhile to get back to the group.

The SW contest has several sponsors and they just sort of naturally divided them up as sponsoring a particular section but really all major sponsors are supporting all parts of the contest. So feel free to bring your elk down there. I believe the elk turned in will have a sponsored by the AZ Elk Society sign on them.