Big or Bust

Here are some of the deer he has as well. All low fenced Texas whitetails -

Unit 24 coues for me...

Guys - The pig issue at some of my brothers land is becoming out of hand. This is from him driving around tonight. If anyone wants to have an affordable hog hunting trip and shoot literally a ton of pigs, give him a call. Website is above. He's a good ole dude. Thanks -

Free bump for seller -

Seriously? Give you a gun for free? Come on...

And I got a cc hit.

I just created a portal account and nothing has been uploaded to it. Wth?

Yeah, I agree with lawyer. IMHO, the most accurate load data (read most unlawyered) is from Nosler...

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SHV. More likely to track properly if spinning turrets.. I'd get a 4-20 SWFA before them both...

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I'll take this rifle from you Scot.

Very nice. One of my rifles is this exact gun. I can shoot silly groups really far with it.... What a sweet setup and good luck with sale.

Easy there! I am 5' tall and drive a big lifted truck......and shoot a .300RUM.....guess I need to buy a .338 Lapua Mag Ackley Imp. now. Maybe even a .408 Cheytec. Lance, that's the only logical next step...

You literally have proven your own BC preaching nothing but a way to impress the road hunters. Until you started preaching to the wrong crowd. Lark is right, it never was about the BC. Funny stuff. I'll let you keep digging that hole now...

You're arguing against yourself bud. Hook, line, and sinker for sure. You'd make a super Gunwerks spokesman. Again, the ballistics 101 lecture not needed unless you need to keep hearing yourself say it. You didn't say you need the highest BC bullet possible on THIS thread but every cartridge thread that comes up in my limited reading on here you say something to that effect. Keep relying on that BC my man. It'll bring the critters to you. I'm not sure I'd brag a whole lot about that 1200 yard AMax shot. You'll impress the road hunters likely but that bullet at that speed even with the BC is a disaster waiting to happen in that cartridge... In all seriousness, this is all in good fun. Take a deep breath and go load up some 250 grain Bergers so you won't have to hike to that next hill, just shoot over it!

PS - Vortex does indeed suck. They gave a warranty for a reason, as does Leupold which can't make a scope that RTZ or tracks worth two craps...

Knowledge on deaf ears like plugging numbers in a ballistic program? Whew, that's a toughie....

grin...take a big deep breath chief. This is all fun stuff. Don't take it so seriously. Not sure what my IQ is but owning my own business and getting to hunt and shoot steel 4 months a year must mean I'm doing something right, right? you've bought into the long range hunting deal hook, line and sinker. I love me some BC but come on...Congrats? Trust me bud, I burn just a scootch of powder as well and get in the woods just a fair "bit" and even shoot at pretty far distances regularly. You can do your ballistic lecture on 99% of the folks here but there are people out there that you don't know who are pretty savvy cats as well. No need for the ballistics 101 lecture. I asked velocities simply because I was in traffic and typing on phone. Thank you so much for those hard to calculate numbers. The numbers you cited earlier are misleading simply because no one should ever shoot a Nosler Partition at a critter with an impact velocity slightly above 1400 fps. That's just irresponsible and way below the mimimum for bullet function which makes the wind drift look worse than it should be. But now that you mention it, you may not care what a bullet's impact velocity is. Didn't you shoot a deer at over 1200 yards or something with a 140 Amax from a 6.5-284 a few years back? I'm not on here a whole lot but remember you typing a big story about it and me shaking my head. With a 2950 MV, that puts the impact at under 1400 fps. Perfect. The Partition load you cited is a 600 yard load at most so compare the drift numbers at the NP load at 600 with the Berger load at 700 (approximately where I'm guessing it falls below 1800 fps and the performance that Eric at Berger recommends as minimum impact (guessing as my ballistic program just took a dump on me and am having to reboot). The drift is far less of a practical difference which any reticle/turret combo of today's golden age of optics can easily account for. And you still need to read the wind regardless of BC although a higher BC can allow you to be a more sucky wind reader. Yes, BC matters a lot but when tags are being punched it is no way even on the list of things that will make someone successful. Not even close. The point is that BC is so far down the list of what someone needs to worry about when going to kill something it's not even funny. You think that everyone who doesn't shoot the highest BC bullet possible is just not very smart while giving the impression that a bullet's BC makes up for lots of hunter incompetencies. This is simply not the case but it seems like you are trying to make up for something. Here are just a very small sampling of critters from the past year or so that weren't shot with the highest most bestest BC possible. Happy Shooting! .338 and 250 Berger .270 and 140 Berger .280 Ackley Improved and 140 Accubond A muzzleloader! GASP! 7-08 and 140 Bergers Even my wife can do it! With a 7-08 and a 140 E-tip. This deer never left his bed... dang, she did it again this year! Pink guns make the bullet drift at least 10% further..grin...

Yeah - way under the impact thresholds for optimum performance for both so the drifts are misleading under a hunting circumstance...

Yeah - way under the impact thresholds for optimum performance for both so the drifts are misleading under a hunting circumstance...

What are your 800 yard impact velocities for both comparison loads that you left out?

A bullet's BC is simply a hunter's tool. Just like good bins, a knife, or a tent. It absolutely doesn't make up for hunting know how or a fat azz not wanting to hike half a mile because he thinks he can shoot that far... Some people think that a bigger cartridge or a high BC bullet makes up for them sucking as a hunter. It absolutely does not regardless what they have read in Field and Stream magazine or how high they scored at their last range match on their beanbags...

Neither...

I guess I'll bump this one back up if there is any interest.