MULEPACKHUNTER

Tent. Made a pack trip for 4 days ounce and forgot the tent. Lucky it didn't rain. Slept under stars on ground old school 4 days.

Jay scott outdoors has a good one as well for the video.

+2 on caseys in flag, I will go out of my way to take meat there.

I am thinking I would have taken the shot, it was just the way I like it. Off the roads on the mules and I did the work and found them.

Headed up top with the mules and had some close encounters. Hard to photo while in the saddle and hold a pack string but heres one of 20 Turkeys in the area. Lots of goblets. Now for the elk pics This was a big guy and I was still mounted. He moved off and I didnt get a good shot of his antlers but he was 300 plus easy. This guy posed a bit as I waited to get the big bull on film. What do you think on the score for him? 240 maybe? There was one great moment not on film, I had a pack mule and then my wife with me and we rode into the middle of about 50 or more cows and calves and I am still getting chills now. We got right on top of them and then the forest erupted with calls and bodies in all directions. Amazing. For 10 minutes they were all around us talking back and forth so we backed out and then my wife says, why didnt you take pictures? OUCH, I was in shock still, I have never seen something like that. The mules did great and stood still as if they knew we were sneaking or something. LOL

Hey madx are those lamas in your avatar? Very cool I like lamas.

I understand on the score but since I am new to this I was figuring it for comparison. So if its was archery would you shoot that bull? I hope I would pass but I like the saying don't pass something the first day you would shoot on the last day.

How did you learn to take care of animals in the field? I have heard suggestions on learning the fine art of skinning and caping I have a few videos and have seen and used the gutless but does anyone have suggestion on what taxi shops are most open to teaching a guy how to do some butcher work, Trophy prep? I would hate to get scolded by the processor or Taxi.

Ok thanks, I also found the draw odds deal. (hunters trailhead)

Need huge favor, My boss has 15 points for elk and is looking for early rifle bull in unit 1. What is the guaranteed points to get the tag? Or if not that what is that calculator you can buy to figure it out? Thanks a bunch.

Very good work. Why do so many services leave out pricing? Really anoying not to have even rough cost structure.

With all that work I would go with the turret. Did you do your work up with the ladder test theory? I went to this recently and it made a difference for me at long range. Look it up and read, there are a few ideas there but i went with some of both. Uptick is one and accuracy is the other. I like the random load grab myself. Don't forget about time of year you do your testing, hunt time is usually way different in conditions and you would be surprised how that can change your velocity. I love long range but don't agree with hunting past 300 yrds myself, make sure you know whats between you and your target and whats beyond. Just saying.

Tony put up some good links and info on this and I commented there but here is a question for all who hunt unit 10. What conditions of the land have you seen in recent years? I.E. fence , road, damage,, trash,, roads tore up by vehicles on and off road? Basically is the areas you go getting trashed???? If its not bad and this money goes to pay for ranch infrastructure I would say good for them if they can get away with it but I wouldnt give them my money.

I read up on this today and this is great info Tony Thanks. I have only been in unit 10 one time and did not plan on hunting there but some freind's drew December elk tags there and it is a little shady they now have this fee. I think implementing could have waited at least for the fee part until next draw cycle. I know they said they would not have put in for the hunt had they known this ahead of time. Sounds like it will improve hunt quality IMO. What might the penalty be for not having proper permits? Just curious. "the pain to change must be greater than the pain not to change"

Down to my last 2 lbs of Javi, here are some memories.

Had some fun with the powder coating set up and a few sips of crown.

I was up on the rim all week from eastern 3C to 5A and all the bulls and spikes had full velvet. No fresh rubs. Man is it beautiful up there right now. Found one old deer rub close to the ground that looked like a chain saw hit it. Like a 6in diameter trunk with thick bark and it was bare on one side. Maybe a bear but it looked like deer.

AZ Pred, I sent you a pm, I am interested in going with you. I have 2 weeks off and am hunting deer here in AZ but would sack my week 2 to go up and help on your hunt and split cost. Let me know I can call, video, pack meat, cook. I am organized and game for any hunt situation.

I missed out on all draws this cycle so I too pick this tag up. I am hitting the archery season hard this year but if by chance I am not tagged out I would be interested. I have only researched the area and will most likely not make it down to scout but I will hunt hard for 4 days by backpack most likely. I will let you know by PM later if I will be going down there. I already have a plan of attack and base camp planned out and have been on the phone with the Rangers down there. I have maps on order and will scout all I can form home and by map.

Really bad deal to hear, extremely sorry to hear of this. Hope it all ends up better than it feels right now and it will. Maybe if you can stand it, you could let us know some of the security or lack there of that you had so we can all learn. I am paranoid since this has happened to me on a small scale so I have security cams recording, security monitored system on the house and I have a very large bolted down safe. MOst valued items are in safe deposit box. Nothing is full proof but we do what we can. I was leaning into another gun purchase a while back and decided I needed to get my guns and ammo out of the closet and went for the safe instead of adding more guns that could be grabbed with no resistance. One other item is I video and computer cataloged all items including serial numbers so the insurance idiots cant screw me like in the past. This includes all items in the house like furniture and cars and everything.

I reload about 100 pcs of any and all calibers weekly and only use magnum primers in everything for my rifles. I got tired of looking to see what was what and switching primers around.

i got the unit 29 nov 8th rifle we will see how August goes.

Thankfully my lifestyle before hunting was fitness all the way. I live by the rule to do something everyday no matter how big or small. My new rule is I don't get dinner if I don't work out in some way that day. It works pretty good but if I miss a day it throws me off and motivates me to get it done. Recently I went back to the basics, push ups sit ups pull ups squats and then I do triathlon style regimen with swimming biking and running throughout the week. One day a week at the gym I do a mini triathlon swimming for 30 minutes then biking for an hour class and then running 4 miles on the tread mill. Works for me. The main thing that really got me in this mode was the removal of television. We only watch movies on the dvd now and very little of that even. This gets me out working or working out instead of on the couch. Of course no fast food for the last 8 years helps and zero soda for me. Whiskey while in the saddle is my downfall. Every year a group of sudo freinds gets together for the canyon hike so this motivates me to keep going on fitness so I am not hurting down the canyon. Last year 4 of us did the double, rim to rim on friday then back on saturday. I was really ready for some backcountry after that one.

Anyone looking for a NOV 8th unit 29??? I didn't get drawn so I sent in for the leftover down there. Never been down that way even to visit but I have done some research in the past and have wanted to go for a while. Going to be a backpack trip for 4 days if things don't go as planned in August.

If I put an app in for the leftover on the 22nd I dont lose points correct? The regs say after the computer draw but it sounds like they will "computer draw" again if you send the ap in on the 22nd?