MULEPACKHUNTER

I can't imagine there being a good reason not to allow cameras. I have been in almost all of the larger wilderness areas in az and rarely do I see any humans and have never seen forest service personel. The only sign I see are stupid cattle and signs of lazy outfitters or hunters or backpackers. Usually there are no footprints at all for months. For the workin man its too much work to use cameras in wilderness anyway so there's not a lot of arguments I'm sure.

Ya the E model is the same plus some minor changes and new reticle option that has windage. I found an E model brand new for 199.00 so I may hit that one. 3x9x40 retail online is 259.00 on sale from 358.00 so 199.00 sounds good to me. Thanks for the info

Makes more sense now, Thanks for the review. I was leaning that way and you knocked me off the fence.

The issue is in the wording where it says intent. Meaning to me if a hunter brings in something salt or mineral for hunting its not legal but if there are blocks brought in by rancher for cattle you can hunt it. Bottom line ask game officer if you pack in salt and place it for hunting is it ok? I am planning salt to hunt or get pics until I hear otherwise

Dont have television so cant watch but if anyone was able to watch on the internet let me know???? I voted anyway based on association.

It looks like overall I will be happy with the changes other than the application fee of 13.00. That one will generate a ton of extra money for AZGF but at least they are dedicating the 3.00 and 5.00 portions of that fee to hunter access and such. I was planning on hitting them hard on that fee for phase 2 meetings and emails but now I am conflicted.

Sad day for those who enjoy nature as it was intended, I think all 4 digit fr should be closed myself but that's just me so I am bummed but congrats to those who need or like to sit on their motorized couches and plow through the world.

Looks like you should start guiding the way you get on them!!! Awsome work.

While out pig hunting many days this year we saw a ton of quail. I think this may be the year to drop one of the 4 pounders my neighbor has been feeding.

JMO all the ones looking at the cam appear to be sows. I am not very knowing on this but from what I have read thats My guess. Great pics though, my heart would be racing if i got those on my cam.

There were 12 torn up trees in this area total. Also 14 to 15 bear scat piles about 40 yrds from here. Unit 4B lookin good. Too bad I don't have a tag.

Unit 27 I put int for early archery bull and I have my spot already, there are trees that look like helicopters have landed in them.

So my cell phone would be off limits, because it has a camera built in it... I am guessing its the leaving it in the area deal at work. Funny though, I guess I better not set my video cam down or they might grab it.

I do understand the abandoned property deal some but I know there is allot of grey there. I did get ahold of forest service and they said game cameras are not allowed in wilderness areas. I did read this somewhere but cannot find any written information on it, only the phone call gave me the answer. The ruffuges are written as restricted but not the wilderness. I have had my cameras up several times but they are so remote it would be 1 in a million for someone to run into them. I dont have any now and I guess I wont anymore. Not sure what it hurts but rules are rules. Would be nice for them to list this on the web site. It is actually difficult to get all the information needed when heading into the woods for anything. Full time job just leaning all the regs and rules.

I only have second hand information on the wilderness thing but was told my cameras could confiscated if left in wilderness area even one day. I will find out and post specifics

Have not done much research but the San Carlos web site says 3 different seasons all 700.00 for non tribe members. I think if you stopped into Ross Outdoors they would know, I believe they go in there alot. There looks to be limited tags though and I am not sure how it works. Going to look into it though. Cant afford an outfitter so high bear numbers would make this type of hunt good odds for success.

Some were low but to the left out of frame were some 5 ft high ones, with all the elk tracks in here I was guessing short elk. LOL

Don't forget wilderness areas are off limits to cameras, I had an issuue in this area.

My buddy saw 5 cubs in one day so that 700. Res tag might be worth it next year. Yes there may have been a few beer as well. Lol

Got lost, hiked wrong way, no fish, lots of bears. The end

Thinking I am going to put my daughter in for doe hunt way north but with the hwy being shut down how do you get up there now? Planning on hauling the mules up and heard there was a long dirt bypass through the res? Will most likely end up in the saddle mtn wilderness but not for sure yet. Need to look over the unit map

MULE- saddle mtn wilderness is in 12e. this is a great hunt for youth. you should not need horses . 23 per cent chance; if you get drawn you will see plenty of deer. ron Ya I saw that right after I started researching the unit, bummer that area looks good. One thing I have noticed so far is the road situation is bad up there. The one thing I really think in my opinion that really needs to change in AZ is there are way way way too many roads and too much access. I look at the maps and it looks like the human vascular system!!! Nothing worse than riding along or hiking along and you are thinking how beautiful the area is and how quiet and serene and then bam there's a road. Oh and then guess what another road 200 yards up. I know as I get older and cant run around in the hills I will be happy to have access with roads but even then our wild areas usually have a truck driving around in them and able body or not that is depressing. App has been sent in so I will be so stoked if my daughter gets a tag and we will spur on the AZ economy and head up for some family time on or off the road.

What exactly is this deal? I would be interested but web site doesn't explain

How can he state that change can't happen without the people and yet the people spoke and all gun measures were shut down and yet he still trys to move forward with more palns. I say that is ignoring the majority. The admin is wrong on this one.