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Right back at ya Lark. Well said!

What specifically has worked out very well for you? After reading your posts, (8 of currently 31 that were just periods bumping the page to the top) I am still not sure what your angle is? What are you trying to prove? SD has its place. It is not the only thing to measure a projectiles ability. It is just single measurement in the equation. No one here has stated anything different. Unless your definition of everything is different than mine... When EVERYTHING is held constant, everything WILL stay the same.

If I was home I'd be there in a heart beat. I have seen several nice rams in the Castle Domes. I have even spotted them from the few roads in the unit while passing through. Some Yuma boys will surely help. If you don't get a crew together hit me up and I can give you some starting points. KOFA also puts out basic maps that list many of the water catchments. Good luck to him and you if you get the chance. Post some pics!

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Heard that! Let us know what you decide and what was the final tipping point. If I was around, you would be welcome to check mine out.

Absolutely zero issues with mine and those shooting them in my circle. After picking the correct sight tape I was amazed at how accurate the adjustments were. It sounds like you really want a Spot Hogg though

In the market for a tough bow case that can take beating (airports, truck beds) while protecting the goods. Interested in what you have found that works well or particular models to steer clear of.

I'll be very interested to hear your findings. Both good and bad.

Thanks for sharing the story. Congrats to you and her.

What speeds are you getting with that setup? Grain of arrow?

I have nothing but great things to say about my Montana Black Gold sight. Mine is single pin but they offer it in many different pin setups. Plenty of adjustments including the 3rd axis, but simple enough to be tough in the field. I was on the fence for a SH or MBG sight this year and after setting it up and getting it dialed I would make the purchase again. I'm very happy with it. If you go to their website or S&S you can custom build with the features you deem important.

Any bullet has a limitation (speed) at which it will expand. No matter it's type or speed you launch it at. It will become less effective as it reaches a certain range (has slowed down enough). It is likely that he is approaching or at that threshold for his set up, given the repeated results he experienced. The questions about point of impact are just to understand the situation better. The pictures of his recovered bullets would tell different stories depending on what they hit. Guts vs bone.

Stick to your guns! That is a great caller and a heck of a price.

In these scenarios it's easy to wonder if a different point of impact would have yielded different results. It is important to remember that these animals we shoot at are less than ideal target mediums. Soo many variables as to effect the terminal performance. Hitting a rib on the entrance, a shoulder blade, a spine, a rib on the exit, a particularly tough tendon or sinew, or simply passing through hitting nothing but guts will have vastly different results on the projectile and associated wound channel. It is also important to understand the mechanics of the bullet you choose. The Bergers are a basic cup and core bullet. A thin jacket cup is filled with lead and the open tip is swaged shut to form an aerodynamic shape. The hollow point in the tip is simply a by product of the manufacturing. At no point are they "bonded", "interlocked", or "corelokt". This old technology doesn't lend itself to beautiful mushrooms and they generally come apart dramatically after entering the target a couple inches if/when the velocity is adequate. It is old technology but still works if you understand its limitations. Many times in situations we use Bergers (heavy for caliber, long range scenarios) the bullet passes through its target while it is still expanding/coming apart. There seems to be a happy medium. Too close and the bullet quickly and violently expands without the desired penetration and too far (lack of velocity) the bullet pencils through potentially breaking the tip off as it tumbles (heavier base upsets the hollow nose). Berger has always been a match/target bullet maker. It was by coincidence that hunters seeking their accurate bullets discovered their effective terminal performance. Berger recognized it and eventually marketed the original version as "hunting" after developing the "target" line with a thicker jacket to deal with issues mentioned earlier. Shoot what you like but understand its limitations. I have had great success with the Bergers and AMAXs but I am also exited for the ELD-X to come out!

^ I will say this. Any smith worth his salt can figure out how to make it work without issue. I've got (3) 5R barrels and all shoot lights out and clean up like a dream.

Pretty cool! Thanks for sharing.

LOTS of variables here , but we can guess pretty close on your given case/bullet weight combo. Without knowing your barrel length I would venture to say you are in the 2750-2850 fps range. Your .404 is likely not exact either. Lots of manufacturers are very generous in this area. It's merely a great place to start. Use them together to get on target and the adjust one or the other in the program until the ballistic curve matches what your rifle is shooting with actual range data. The distance your scope is "zeroed" at will also affect your data. Make sure you are speaking the same language when comparing drops or corrections. @ 300yds your 10.5" will be close to 3.5 moa.

I would keep it. Hard to beat the barrel you ended up getting. Kreiger does make 5R. My most recent build has a Krieger 6.5mm, 8.5 twist 5R on it. Seems like I remember a smith grumbling a few years ago about the 5R's being more trouble to chamber. Something about the reamer chatter on the different lands and grooves? Maybe that's where his recommendation is based?

Long story short... Work has made sure to keep me out of Coues country for the last two seasons and one more. This is really killing me but also allowing me to review my gear and make some upgrades to what I feel are my weakest links. I was very fortunate to be able to take some leave back home between assignments that coincided with Kansas archery season in mid October. It wasn't gonna be rut and maybe/hopefully just the beginning of the pre-rut, but I wasn't gonna miss the opportunity to hit the woods in the area I grew up in. It's always hard to be successful when I go home and hit the woods looking for a mature deer with zero scouting, no stands hung, and a very limited timeline. Sometimes I end up frustrated and spending too much time in the woods when I should be with friends and family. This year was no different. It was a whirl of checking cams daily and adjusting my plan of attack while fighting the winds and warm temps to avoid pressuring the areas too much. Seven days later all the hard work and ground covered paid off when an old bruiser came in to the tickling of some rattling horns! He was an absolute tank with a 2"+ layer of fat over his hindquarters. Thanks to those close to me for understanding my addiction. I'll let the pictures tell the rest. Couldn't be happier! 100 gr RamCat through the pump station Pretty unique with twin 9" daggers growing out the G2 bases. Icing on the cake!

Normally I pull into town on a mission and hit the woods hard with my family and friends playing second fiddle. This time I tried to do better but the timber pulls so hard. Harvesting this deer mid trip allowed me to actually relax with my family for the last half. I was truly grateful for the time I got to watch my son interact with my wife and I's parents. Definitely put things in perspective for me, even if it was a bit late. I had hoped for a morning kill so I could drag my father and my son to the woods for some photos but ended up sealing the deal near last light with a recovery in the dark. Momma had put the boy to sleep and said he couldn't come out and play. Best I could do was a picture with a cleaned up skull the next day. He lives to "look at deer pitchers" with me and was pretty pumped to hold some antlers.

Congrats man! You're a good dude and I'm glad you got it done. Great story

Willhunt, that's fine shootin anywhere! My thoughts are identical in regards to effective killing ranges. Those critters look mighty small at a grand even through 22x. My intitial comment was mainly to emphasize the focus and practice on the basics of the discipline before worrying about that "1 click" at a 1000yds. I've been a student of the wind for long time and she still seems to school me regularly. This forum has some great folks. Would love to bump into you guys at the range someday.

AGREED 100%

Your Creedmoor will be less than 308's as your velocity is faster and your likely higher BC will shed that velocity slower. We are talking maybe one click on a 1/4 MOA turret.