WampusCat

LOTS of variables here , but we can guess pretty close on your given case/bullet weight combo. Without knowing your barrel length I would venture to say you are in the 2750-2850 fps range. Your .404 is likely not exact either. Lots of manufacturers are very generous in this area. It's merely a great place to start. Use them together to get on target and the adjust one or the other in the program until the ballistic curve matches what your rifle is shooting with actual range data. The distance your scope is "zeroed" at will also affect your data. Make sure you are speaking the same language when comparing drops or corrections. @ 300yds your 10.5" will be close to 3.5 moa.

I would keep it. Hard to beat the barrel you ended up getting. Kreiger does make 5R. My most recent build has a Krieger 6.5mm, 8.5 twist 5R on it. Seems like I remember a smith grumbling a few years ago about the 5R's being more trouble to chamber. Something about the reamer chatter on the different lands and grooves? Maybe that's where his recommendation is based?

Long story short... Work has made sure to keep me out of Coues country for the last two seasons and one more. This is really killing me but also allowing me to review my gear and make some upgrades to what I feel are my weakest links. I was very fortunate to be able to take some leave back home between assignments that coincided with Kansas archery season in mid October. It wasn't gonna be rut and maybe/hopefully just the beginning of the pre-rut, but I wasn't gonna miss the opportunity to hit the woods in the area I grew up in. It's always hard to be successful when I go home and hit the woods looking for a mature deer with zero scouting, no stands hung, and a very limited timeline. Sometimes I end up frustrated and spending too much time in the woods when I should be with friends and family. This year was no different. It was a whirl of checking cams daily and adjusting my plan of attack while fighting the winds and warm temps to avoid pressuring the areas too much. Seven days later all the hard work and ground covered paid off when an old bruiser came in to the tickling of some rattling horns! He was an absolute tank with a 2"+ layer of fat over his hindquarters. Thanks to those close to me for understanding my addiction. I'll let the pictures tell the rest. Couldn't be happier! 100 gr RamCat through the pump station Pretty unique with twin 9" daggers growing out the G2 bases. Icing on the cake!

Normally I pull into town on a mission and hit the woods hard with my family and friends playing second fiddle. This time I tried to do better but the timber pulls so hard. Harvesting this deer mid trip allowed me to actually relax with my family for the last half. I was truly grateful for the time I got to watch my son interact with my wife and I's parents. Definitely put things in perspective for me, even if it was a bit late. I had hoped for a morning kill so I could drag my father and my son to the woods for some photos but ended up sealing the deal near last light with a recovery in the dark. Momma had put the boy to sleep and said he couldn't come out and play. Best I could do was a picture with a cleaned up skull the next day. He lives to "look at deer pitchers" with me and was pretty pumped to hold some antlers.

Congrats man! You're a good dude and I'm glad you got it done. Great story

Willhunt, that's fine shootin anywhere! My thoughts are identical in regards to effective killing ranges. Those critters look mighty small at a grand even through 22x. My intitial comment was mainly to emphasize the focus and practice on the basics of the discipline before worrying about that "1 click" at a 1000yds. I've been a student of the wind for long time and she still seems to school me regularly. This forum has some great folks. Would love to bump into you guys at the range someday.

AGREED 100%

Your Creedmoor will be less than 308's as your velocity is faster and your likely higher BC will shed that velocity slower. We are talking maybe one click on a 1/4 MOA turret.

Those are similar numbers to what I see as well. At 308 velocities we are talking 3" at a 1,000yds and less when a faster chamber/projectile is used as the time of flight is reduced. What I really wanted to make clear to folks (without sounding like I was arguing) is that there are much more important things to correct for (wind and spin)

Love that Seekins bottom metal! I'm running the same one.

Interesting. Is that spin drift and coriolis? with 308?

Thanks all, I'm still on cloud nine. The emotions on a hunt like that can be some real highs and lows. Seeing a monster cruise a field edge 100yds across a bean field knowing you cant do anything but sit in your stand real rips at a guy. I'd walk miles of nasty country to get a chance at a buck like this one but sitting a stand seams so much harder. If you pressure a mature buck with hard horns but before the rut you can almost guarantee he is not going to stick around. I grew up hunting that way and I love it but it has been replaced by spot and stalk western hunting at the top of my list.

Congrats. That dark face reminds me of the swamp deer in South Carolina.

Fact: I wrote it backwards somehow when speaking about the effects at the poles vs the equator. Good catch and thanks for the keeping me honest While the rest of your information looks good I still don't think any of this will be a factor at hunting ranges. Even at 800-1000 yards with modern high velocity projectiles. I think Coriolis gets turned into a buzz word that gets thrown around in shooting circles. It absolutely exists and is necessary for an extremely small niche of extreme distance guys. The kicker is do the gadgets discussed in the thread actually calculate (correctly) for the equation(s) necessary to make an absolute correction? At what range (distance) have you experienced Coriolis alone shifting your point of impact more than 1 or even .75 MOA?

Interesting that the die, when properly adjusted wouldn't bump those suspect cases back into specs. If yours is working fine with un-modded case holders and dies then I'd just carry on.

The good news is that is a great place for a first time hunter. There are literally deer all over the place. It will be a great place to learn western hunting. Tips will be the same for any other unit with similar terrain. Get the best optics you can afford, get on a high spot and let your eyes do the walking. It may seem difficult at first to spot them but once you pick up a deer, your brain will have a reference and you will find them easier. The downside to hunting the base is areas will open and close at random for training and your honey hole might get locked down the week you want to hunt. Good luck and post up some pics from your adventures.

Thanks fellas mattys281, I just read your Nebraska post. Good luck on your Dec hunt if you get back up there.

I can vouch for parshal. We had a smooth transaction.

Lots of studs this year for certain. Bad year to miss the season!

Incredible! That is one of the coolest looking Coues I've iver seen. Congrats!

Yes

SOLD

TTT

3+ weeks and no payment from the "buyer" means they are back up for sale. These will ship from Kansas.

You 308 guys out there should hop all over these!