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    4 minutes ago, AZAV8ER said:

    The Creedmoor is very different. The main reason why is accuracy from off the shelf rifles like the Seekins Havak and Bergara Premier line, rifles that shoot off the shelf Hornady ammo sub .4MOA. The secret sauce is Hornady built the Cartridge from the ground up to be accurate with the 140/147 grain ELD-Match bullet. The SAMMI specs call for a twist, chamber, throat and lead that fit those bullets like a glove and support it with decent ammo. Heck even their bargain bulk "American Gunner" ammo would shoot sub .5MOA at 100 yards.  Yes its only so fast and the bore is only .264, but t's accurate as all heck and carries easily to 1000 yard hits on steel or paper. I know it's a "target round" but velocity that is still over 2000 fps at 400 yards and sufficient energy for deer hunting covers a lot of territory. It's not magic, just more accurate than any other off the shelf setup. I do not know off any factory match ammo 7-08, 243 or 260 that you can put in a $1000-$2000 dollar retail rifle and kick but with it.

    If Hornady was really wanting to be helpful, I think they could have accomplished all of that with the .260, 6.5x47 and maybe the 6.5x 284.  If they improved upon existing cartridges or chambers I would accept that.  Now they have to take up shelf space and manufacturing lots to make something we already have.  I get that new bullets and powder will keep getting better, but wish they would make those bullets to adapt to stuff out there.  Like I said, I’m guilty too.  I’m not disappointed I bought the 6.5 Creedmoor, but I’m a long ways away from saying it’s better than the other three I mentioned.  Seekins and Bergara could have built those to keep up with the new bullets out there, a lot of that is chamber specs and twist rate.  I see that other makers are keeping up with the bullets out there since we all have to have the heavier bullets now.  Ruger and others are making faster twist barrels in their off the shelf rifles that I didn’t see a long time ago because of our heavy bullet craving.

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    8 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

    Right, I was thinking he should use the 3006 just because everyone else isn’t. 

    I keep thinking the 30-06 will make a comeback.  I’ve been thinking that for years now.  I actually like it and I will have a 30-06AI built in the next few years.  But now I think it’s done.  Like one of the guys said, go find your grandpas 06.  The younger people will grow up thinking the same thing.  The makers like Hornady, Nosler and the others are great at marketing and know we will eat up a new cartridge if it’s talked about in the press as the greatest new thing.  I’m all about freedom, do what you want, but be careful calling it the best when the difference is minor between each one.  Especially the capability of each one.  Take a close look at all of the 30 caliber magnum types.  Just to name a few, the RUM, Weatherby, Win Mag, PRC, and Nosler only have minor advantages or disadvantages and not enough for anybody to say one is better than the other, and someone that’s had one for only the few years it’s been out can’t say it’s better than any of the others.  What it amounts to is the load development you make of each one that makes it special, not the name of the cartridge or +- fps and it seems like it’s the name we latch on to.  This is not uncommon for a certain cartridge to become popular.  When I was young, Sako, And Ruger made the 6mm PPC and it was a hot new item.  Now, probably no one knows WTF that is.  We all saw the 7-08 become the best thing for kids and when I was young, it was the 270.  How many people buy a .270 over a 7-08 now?  Not many I bet.  The .270 is another grandpa’s gun.

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    14 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

    What’s wrong with a 30 yacht 6 

    It’s name is kind of worn out.  I bet if it had a few minor changes to it and a flashy name like the new trendy ones it would become instantly popular like the Creedmoor.  The Creedmoor can’t lose.  People are now making it 22, 25, and 243 caliber and can’t seem to get enough of it and if you look closely at each one, they are no different than existing cartridges like the 22-250, 250 savage and 243.  But we get bored easily and need to have something new to talk about.  I’m guilty too.  I had to have the 6.5 Creedmoor when it was new almost 14 years ago and I didn’t know any better.

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    If you think about it, this would be a great con to get into if you were that type of person.  You would just have to come up with a better method.  From what I’ve seen here and other places, is that we want nice stuff dirt cheap.  You see that with a lot of WTB posts of people wanting something like a Ruger American when a new one is $380 expecting to find one for less.   So if you dangle a Swarovski in front of us and ask to make an offer, we almost can’t help ourselves.  

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    I would stay with the 30-06.  Some of the reasons are that it is more available than the newer sexy cartridges out there in everything like brass and even quality brass like Lapua.  I have lots of 30-06 brass and I don’t even have one.  That tells me I would never run out or have the need to find some if I did. I get leftovers from people that don’t reload and there’s more that shoot the 06 than the newer ones.  I’m sure I won’t get any leftovers of PRC or Nosler cartridges.  It also keeps getting better and better with some of the new powders coming out, at least I notice more of a gain than what it was capable of 20 years ago.  30 caliber bullets keep getting better.  You can reload for it and get about 125 cartridges out of a pound of powder and that’s better than the magnums where you will get about 80-100. The argument that it’s not a 1000 yard rifle is crazy.  It’s still supersonic at 1000 yards.  Also, I think it’s just cool.  I plan on a 30-06 AI soon and it will be a long range/target rifle that will never go on a hunt.

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    17 minutes ago, HuntHarder said:

    Did they convince you to live in Holbrook too?  I'd cancel the just for that.  

    No, that one was entirely me.  If they had an opinion it wasn’t vocal, however I feel they would advise against it.  I got burned out working 16 years in the valley and wanted to get back to enjoying more of the outdoors on more than a weekend or two here or there.

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    I think they removed you from the running.  The link goes nowhere and when I go tō the site, your name isn’t there.  It got me interested.  Can you tell me more about the competition?  Not much description on the website and some contenders look like they collect likes for a living.

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    Congratulations on the purchase.  It looked to be a good deal.  I have one on backorder and real excited about it.  A few things I learned when watching videos and reading up on tips from other Labradar enthusiasts is that you may want to consider a few more items to go along with it.  Things like a carry case, good tripods for low and bench height, trigger sensor, battery pack, & aiming devise.  I bought the orange carry case but I think I screwed up.  An instrument like that deserves a hard case like a Pelican or equivalent.  

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    Most of the new stuff out there is only available in 18-24 inch barrels.  My model 700 223 is my favorite rifle of all time, I can’t get enough of it.  I bet you will enjoy one too.  Take your time looking for one and try to find one with at least a 26” barrel.  For some reason they made them before when target/varmint rifles were taken seriously.  I’m not necessarily recommending Remington, but I love mine.  
     

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/916472432

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    It might be a good idea to get less than lethal weapons if you are the type of person that has a victim complex or otherwise can’t seem to avoid situations like this.  It might actually be fun to taze someone, blast them with bean bags or douse them with mace. Although sometimes that turns deadly and that wouldn’t be fun at all.

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    It’s hard to have sympathy for the dead dude.  He was 37 and should have known better.  I’ve been there plenty where both drivers are mad.  I usually make the next turn and get away from it.  I’m usually armed when driving although not every time.  It’s nice to go home at the end of the day.  It feels good when you don’t have to waste someone over something stupid too.

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    They have a hard time with scores.  I’ve seen plenty where they talk about the buck being 180 or bigger and that’s from them looking at it and not measuring it.  Elk are much more inflatable to the point you need to subtract 20” right away from what some of these guides are claiming.  A 180 Net typical is a very big deer.  Many times it can gross over 180 and the net is much lower than that.  I have a set of antlers from NM from 1974 and it grosses 191 and nets just over 180 officially.  When it comes to the final score after drying, that’s something that you usually never see or ever hear about unless it actually makes the book, then they most certainly post about that, but a lot fall short and they never mention that again.  It’s human nature to overestimate things and whenever I hear a score I’m skeptical unless I see a score sheet with an offical scorer’s name after the 90 day drying time.  That is probably what we see a lot of, the overuse 180.  From a guides point of view, it doesn’t hurt to claim being around lots of 180 deer.

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