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That was a great thread. The ones where you can actually learn something are the best. Outdoor Writer is one I really listen to. I wish he would post more. There's so much to learn from people like him. There was a thread either here or on another forum from him that talked about the history of other things about Arizona that I really liked. He would talk about something and someone else would add to it or remind us of something else from the past and others would go back and forth with stories and interesting facts. I was a lurker then but I would have a lot to add to it now. The thread was a lot of talk about Phoenix in the old days and stores that are now closed like Yellow Front and other changes and the way things were in the state that was real interesting.

Some of the Anschutz models come threaded. https://www.anschutznorthamerica.com/sporting-models.html if you order from Cooper, they can thread the barrel as an option when you customize it.

A few more models to think about... Anschutz 1710 Cooper model 57m Winchester model 52 Remington 40x the Remington and Winchester can be found in either sporters or target models.

Believe me, us old folk don't hate you guys for wearing them. That's what wisdom teaches us. We do like to complain about the young people, It's kind of the law when you get a lot of years behind you. You guys are hunters, you can't be that stupid. If you like those hats, fine, own it. As long as you believe it's a good idea to wear a hat like that, then I'm fine with it. Like I said, I'm trying to believe it's a style like we have so many others that come and go. But our parents seriously would have thought we were retarded if we wore them like that. They might even have taken us to the hospital to get us checked out.

Well it official, I'm old. At 40 years old, I can't help but imagine how disappointed my dad would have been if he came around the corner and saw me in a flat brimmed hat with my ears tucked in. My younger years, he would have just knocked it off of my head. I'm trying to understand that it's just the culture or style now just as those silly Lincoln hats were back in the day. It's scary to think that it may become such an accepted style that Law Enforcement will soon start wearing them that way.

This is the first year I didn't see any. I've been going there for 12 years, always see plenty, not this year. The Freeman was about the only place I didn't go, at least not from the Barkerville to the 79. Less quail out there too.

I have a 2011 f250 diesel and a 2016 GMC 1500. I drove a 2003 f150 for 13 years. The 3/4 ton is not a hunting rig remember that. Nothing will out perform a 1/2 ton on 2 tracks, sand, and rock crawling. With the 3/4 ton, you will have wheel hop that straight up doesn't happen with half tons. You also won't turn as well as the half tons. They're just a rough riding vehicle out there. The solid axle is stronger, but how strong do you need to be? Are you driving the Ribicon or mostly highways? Unless you're towing 30 times during the year, keep a half ton. Let's be honest, we work most of the time and hunt only a small amount of time. The only thing positive about diesels is the buku power.

I agree with PRDATR. It's kind of funny to listen to us Gen Xers talk about their kids like they're disadvantaged. There are other ways to hunt that don't require a big game permit.

I side with the police. I'll save my sympathy for innocent victims, these clearly were not. When will people learn to comply? It's not that hard. If you have a problem with an officer, fine, get a badge number and take care of it at a better time and place. I somehow never find myself in situations like this.

It would be interesting to count how many arrows were actually in it. The first time I saw the tree was in 1998. I had a seasonal job with the FS out of the Clifton RD. There were a few locals from Clifton/Morenci that were seasonal as well. One of them told me that they would shoot an arrow at the end of the season if they didn't get anything. Also they said the idea is to hit as high as you could on the tree.

as far as the younger generation its of no interest to them unless it is Tactical or black. That's true. They just don't know what's out there. I spend most of my time reading and learning the history of guns past and present. If I'm reading a book, it has something to do with guns. It all started when a girlfriend gave me a book about guns for a present once and now I can't get enough. A good gift for a gun guy is a book and they can see what their missing. To me, there's nothing wrong with used guns. Sometimes that's all you can get if you want a nice pistol like the Python or Sig Hammerli or a good lever action center fire rifle. I remember I went shooting with a young 20 something guy a few years ago and brought a Winchester model 52 rifle my dad had sporterized and let the lad shoot it. He had no idea there was a 22 out there like it. He loved it. I explained that he doesn't have to buy Ruger, Remington or the like. And there's others like this one and Remington 40x, Anschutz, and Cooper that make good 22s. And to keep an eye out for a good used one and he should have a real nice rifle to have forever.

I think it's because tastes in guns have changed. 15 years ago you spent around 700-900 dollars for a quality bolt action rifle. Now it's about 300 dollars. Most don't make the quality versions anymore. The younger generation sees this and think it's silly to spend $500 for a used rifle. If you look a pistols, a quality revolver from the 60s or 70s is laughed at when they can buy a brand spanking new M&P striker fire pistol for $300-$350 on special. It breaks my heart to see this. The one country in the world that should be proud of its guns has made just about all of them discount, dime store versions of what they used to be. I stopped buying new from the manufacturer about 5 years ago.

54' wide and 40' long, that's a big airplane, it will be interesting to see the crash site when it's found. I still can't believe it hasn't been.

I was thinking about this today. May is a long time to go undiscovered. There have probably been a few dozen trips trying to find it both by the owner and his pilot buddy community by air, trophy elk hunters scouring the area, and others that know of areas that can hide a plane. The fact it didn't start a fire or send up any smoke and hasn't been found yet, makes me think it's under water. But where? Not a lot of water out there but that's where I'd look.