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Thanks for sharing. I've had some fun times on a Mule in county like that. I'm not a cowboy and know very little about horses or mules. My boss knows plenty about both and when he takes people like me, he puts them on his Mule and all I have to do is speed her up or slow her down. She follows the horse in front.

I spent a lot of time there when I was young. My Grandparents had a place sort of near Lemon Lake. They sold it one day out of the blue. Our family was very upset about it. We would have bought it from them. I can't comment on the hunting there since we never did any of that and were always there in the summer time. There was a store called Hellen's Store along the way we would always go to for candy. It had an old Coors beer sign outside it. Someone sent me a picture of the place about a year ago and it looks like a completely different place from when I was young, except for that Coors sign. I'm glad whoever owns it kept it there.

That's the problem with this country. Here is a person, who I don't know other than this video, that clearly isn't a violent person, would be taken to task for this situation. It should be a very quick investigation to clear him and I hope it is. We have 350,000,000 people in this country. Let's get behind the good people that work for a living and don't protect the losers.

The media really screws things like this up. If the man broke the law, fine, talk more about that and less about the stash. People really latch on to stories like this. Mostly the people that aren't "gun people" enjoy these reports. I love to argue with these people in a friendly way. Usually they are left leaning. The best arguments are with the left leaning that have guns. They have guns but can't be called "gun people". The difference is that when you talk to a real gun person, and ask "what gun do you want that you don't have", they have about 4 answers instantly, there's no thinking about it. They're also the type that can understand a person having a few thousand rounds of ammo lying around. They just understand that a fun weekend can cost a few hundred rounds of 22lr and a few hundred throughout the month of the others so to hear a person has thousand rounds of ammo isn't shocking. The best thing to say to them is quote Obama... "Ignorance is not a virtue...it's not cool to not know what you're talking about".

That was a great thread. The ones where you can actually learn something are the best. Outdoor Writer is one I really listen to. I wish he would post more. There's so much to learn from people like him. There was a thread either here or on another forum from him that talked about the history of other things about Arizona that I really liked. He would talk about something and someone else would add to it or remind us of something else from the past and others would go back and forth with stories and interesting facts. I was a lurker then but I would have a lot to add to it now. The thread was a lot of talk about Phoenix in the old days and stores that are now closed like Yellow Front and other changes and the way things were in the state that was real interesting.

Some of the Anschutz models come threaded. https://www.anschutznorthamerica.com/sporting-models.html if you order from Cooper, they can thread the barrel as an option when you customize it.

A few more models to think about... Anschutz 1710 Cooper model 57m Winchester model 52 Remington 40x the Remington and Winchester can be found in either sporters or target models.

Believe me, us old folk don't hate you guys for wearing them. That's what wisdom teaches us. We do like to complain about the young people, It's kind of the law when you get a lot of years behind you. You guys are hunters, you can't be that stupid. If you like those hats, fine, own it. As long as you believe it's a good idea to wear a hat like that, then I'm fine with it. Like I said, I'm trying to believe it's a style like we have so many others that come and go. But our parents seriously would have thought we were retarded if we wore them like that. They might even have taken us to the hospital to get us checked out.

Well it official, I'm old. At 40 years old, I can't help but imagine how disappointed my dad would have been if he came around the corner and saw me in a flat brimmed hat with my ears tucked in. My younger years, he would have just knocked it off of my head. I'm trying to understand that it's just the culture or style now just as those silly Lincoln hats were back in the day. It's scary to think that it may become such an accepted style that Law Enforcement will soon start wearing them that way.

This is the first year I didn't see any. I've been going there for 12 years, always see plenty, not this year. The Freeman was about the only place I didn't go, at least not from the Barkerville to the 79. Less quail out there too.

I have a 2011 f250 diesel and a 2016 GMC 1500. I drove a 2003 f150 for 13 years. The 3/4 ton is not a hunting rig remember that. Nothing will out perform a 1/2 ton on 2 tracks, sand, and rock crawling. With the 3/4 ton, you will have wheel hop that straight up doesn't happen with half tons. You also won't turn as well as the half tons. They're just a rough riding vehicle out there. The solid axle is stronger, but how strong do you need to be? Are you driving the Ribicon or mostly highways? Unless you're towing 30 times during the year, keep a half ton. Let's be honest, we work most of the time and hunt only a small amount of time. The only thing positive about diesels is the buku power.

I agree with PRDATR. It's kind of funny to listen to us Gen Xers talk about their kids like they're disadvantaged. There are other ways to hunt that don't require a big game permit.

I side with the police. I'll save my sympathy for innocent victims, these clearly were not. When will people learn to comply? It's not that hard. If you have a problem with an officer, fine, get a badge number and take care of it at a better time and place. I somehow never find myself in situations like this.

It would be interesting to count how many arrows were actually in it. The first time I saw the tree was in 1998. I had a seasonal job with the FS out of the Clifton RD. There were a few locals from Clifton/Morenci that were seasonal as well. One of them told me that they would shoot an arrow at the end of the season if they didn't get anything. Also they said the idea is to hit as high as you could on the tree.