HuntHarder

Guilty, but I must admit, I will probably look for muleys instead!

I have Kenton turrets for both wind and elevation. I find them to be plenty accurate enough both in the valley and up north. If you shoot out past 700 yards is when I notice a difference. But even then, it is manageable. In all of my calculations and testing, I find that my bullet drop is 5 inches different at 700. The windage turret from Kenton is awesome. I highly recommend it for quick windage adjustments. It is set for a 10 mile cross wind and you adjust according to the current conditions. We just knocked down 3 bulls all using the Kenton turret and all 3 were smoked. Farthest was 590 yards with an 8 mph crosswind.

I think it is really easy for a guy with money to say double the price of tags. This is NOT a good solution. I have never had a problem paying for my tag, and I feel fortunate to not have had that problem. There are many, many families that do have problems getting their family's out to hunt because of funds. So, does this mean that only people with money should be able to hunt? heck NO, that will be the demise of hunting. I am from the belief of more trophy hunts vs. opportunity hunts. I know I am in the minority for sure. Let's get serious, most guys that go online to discuss hunting, probably take their hunting more serious than the average joe. Not aimed at you Average Joe. LOL. With that being said, the majority of the hunters in this state would rather hunt every other year than wait 8 years for a tag. A tag is exactly what you make it. Trophy caliber animals can be taken on ANY hunt. Do you homework, put your time in, and the results will speak for themselves. Look at some of the more well known guides. Is it a coincidence that they seem to take trophy animals on their own tags? I guess I am just sick of everyone saying to increase tag prices and cut tags. I wish AzGFD would do this and watch those same guys piss and moan until year's end. You think not having a tag every 10 years is bad, well, if they reduce tags, it will be every 15 years. In an average healthy life, you MIGHT get in 4 bull elk hunts. Those who complain, keep putting in for the top 10% tags in the state, and then wonder why they never get drawn..... It is not rocket science, look at Tjhunt2, he hunts elk darn near every year. Go to commission meetings and actually speak up if you have a problem with the current guidelines. Too many keyboard cowboys with the solution to all the wildlife problems.

I haven't used him in a while either, but he is THE MAN when it comes to smith and Wesson wheel guns!

Kid's name is Boner???

0 restrictions on ML hunts in AZ. Game and fish usually alternate every other year on the 12AE ml deer hunt.

Does anyone have a link? The pre-archery muzzleloader sounds like a good tag for the bow hunters. Let the muzzy guys chase them when they are pre-rut..

Firestone TransForce Ht Size: 275/70/R18 Dimensions are: 33.2" tall and 10.83" wide.

I have decided to upgrade my tires to some more aggressive mud terrain tires, so these must go. They came off of a 2014 ram 2500 and have 4k miles on them. They still look pretty much new with no signs of wear. The cheapest I have found them are on tirerack.com. New, tirerack sells 4 for $719.99 + $75.00. Tire spec is 275/70/R18 Load range E. I will sell them for $500.00 Reduced to $450.00, and trades considered. Tire dimensions are: 33.2" tall x 10.83" wide.

I would much rather have a sportsman's warehouse gift card vs. cabelas or basspro. Prices are considerably lower at sportsmans. But yes, a giftcard would work too.

TTT Price drop and trades considered. New price is $450.00.

Love my Kifaru DT3 with grab-it 2. Pack out ability is amazing. I was able to haul more meat this last elk hunt than ever before. 2 front quarters and meat with ease. First and only pack I am able to comfortable pack out 75+ pounds. Very durable pack, great customer service and made in the USA. Can not beat it. When you get a pack to custom fit your body, you will be amazed at the difference.

Swarovski anything usually does pretty good. Outdoorsman's tripods and backpacks also usually have big interest. G7 rangefinder would be great. Yetti ice chests or Canyon coolers. If you are looking at guns, Benelli semi-auto shotguns always have big interest. A custom rifle by gunwerks or one of the other big name guys in long range shooting. Just a few ideas I had.

Let the riots begin!!!

Firstcoueswas80- I am a little skeptical of using a VLD too. Over the last 6 years, I have helped harvest 15 bulls on the late hunt, and all were shot with the VLD. We have not lost a bull yet, and I hope our luck continues this year. I built my gun this year, and it loves these 185 gr VLDs. I originally started with barnes TTSX, but my gun despised them!! On paper, my mind tells me that hollow points and rapid expansion does not = a good elk round. My experience and many others, tells me differently. One of the bulls from last year, literally had no blood trail from 500 yard shot. The bull only made it 40 yards, but has an absolute MESS inside. 2 years ago, 2 of the 3 bulls shot were front shoulder shots, and both fell over, like a ton of bricks hit them. If I recall right, one was 200 yards and one was 450. 200 yard shot was a 30-06 shooting 168 gr berger and the 450 yard shot was a 300 rum shooting the 210 pills.

Yeah, it was not a battle. I would not choose to go to battle against Lance on long range shooting/ hunting. He really seems to know his stuff, and has lots more experience than I do. It was merely a difference of opinions and that is what makes these forums great.

Yeah, no doubt they will kill animals, just not the preferred tool for the job. Same principal of why FMJ ammo designed for military use is not legal for hunting or why LEO's carry hollow points instead of match target ammo. All will get the job done, if the shooter does theirs'. I did notice in your picture of that nice muley, you say you used Berger VLD hunting. Nice Buck! The thicker jackets on match bullets are just not ideal for hunting in my opinion.

First time I think I have disagreed with something Lancetkenyon has said. I would never use a match bullet for hunting. Berger does not recommend it, nor does most any other manufacturer. Reason is, they do not expand like a hunting bullet. Sure if you hit an animal in the lungs and or heart, it will die quick, but in the event you do not, the damage will be minimal. I do not like to plan for a bad shot, but in all reality, it happens, and you should take steps to ensure a humane kill. The Berger VLD hunting bullets are great, and IMO shoot very close to their non hunting versions. HSM loads them commercially, and I have heard nothing good about them. Another option is to see if one of the reloaders on here is willing to help you get started in reloading. Huge advantage when you start shooting long range.

TTT with pictures and price

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I wish more people thought like you Twigsnapper. Free bump. Good luck with the sale

3rd's are freaking awesome!! Nice Bull!!

Hand and butt? What was he doing?