Titanium700

I wish they would go back to checks and paper....... sure would weed a bunch out.

2 words 1 company. Fort Knox

oh sweet!!! either my son got a tag or maybe me....! Lol ......in my dreams .

Leupold 3.5x10 with cds turrets to match your muzzleloader's ballistics. hubble telescopes are not required.

10th for cards and 17th for my yearly disappointment. :-(

Guys, the method below is the way my taxidermist does it. Bleaching skulls 4-6 hr process Take all skin off can leave bottom jaw Get shallow (6"-8" deep pan) 18" dia. Fill with water till it reaches top of eye sockets put rag over top of skull to protect antlers. Get water to a boil add 1/4 cup of Super Washing Soda (sodium bicarbonate) Boil for 2 hrs or so (do not let water get too low) Keep adding water to maintain water level. Let dry for 1-2 days Get 40 volume Hydrogen Peroxide from Sallys Beauty Salon. Paint Hydrogen Peroxide on skull with a 1" brush completely covering it. (not horns) let dry for 1-2 days. Rinse off with a gentle spray of water - if not white enough you may reapply Hydrogen Peroxide over again. Go to Hobby Lobby and (from puzzle area) get Modge Podge Semi Gloss glue....cover everything except horns with 1" paintbrush. Let dry. * Every skull gets new water. All done. Btw, it's the way I do mine and it comes out perfectly with all nose bones intact. Also will suggest the tinfoiling of the antlers.

As promised the CHAMP hunts: Unit 6AN - 10% Unit 10 12% Wow! Sweet....lol his odds are like 1200% better than mine for getting drawn. Thanks for running the numbers man. I hope he gets a tag.

That's fine flatlander, were good. I had already applied but was wondering what my sons odds were. Hope you get your tags for the help you gave everybody on here. Thanks.

I haven't ever run the champ hunts before, I guess I just haven't ever been asked. I will try to work up specific numbers later but at first glance you will be shy of 10% on his first two choices. His last three choices are irrelevant, none of those hunts can be drawn beyond the 1-2 pass. cool, looking forward to see what you come up with . thanks

Just in case my post got overlooked accidently. I was wondering like everyone else if you would be so kind as to run some numbers for me, actually my son because my odds are probably zero. Lol He is a nonres with a CHAMP permit and currently 1 bp, also 10 yrs old if that matters. I put him in for hunts 3103(unit 10 champ), 3102(unit 6a champ), 3101(unit 1 champ) and then 3062, 3064 Youth Thanks again.

My 10 yr old son has a Lh Rem 700 youth in .243 with a leupold 3.5x10 scope with the cds dial on it. Right now I got him shooting barnes 80 grain ttsxs, im going to make him up a 100 grain partition load in case elk is on the menu.

Muledeer33, My son Matthew was drawn for an arizona youth deer hunt and I had high hopes for him to kill a big mule deer buck because I know where they are usually.......well for some reason this year I couldn't find them, I searched high and low talked to many other people in the know and everybody was saying the same thing. "Can't find any racked deer" Oh I was finding does all right, to the tune of 30-40 every day but with those odds you would figure I'd run into a buck but no it wasn't happening. I finally gave in and asked Matthew would he be ok looking for a coues buck and he said yes so we searched for a coues buck but did not find a racked deer there either...frustration was starting to set in and I can tell it was starting to take a toll on my son. Let's just say I pushed a 10 yr old kid with a prosthetic leg pretty darned hard to get him a chance on a buck. I drug him up mountains to nearly 6000' and back down to around 3000' in one day and he was getting flat wore out. (To be honest so was I) We had a few misshaps and one was he fell on his rifle full force scratching the crap out of my leupold scope ( :cry: ) and I was nervous he might have knocked it off a bit so I took a test shot at a white rock at 375 yds away and busted it so I knew we were still good. We saw tons of bear scat (which made Matthew very nervous) lol and saw some of the most beautiful country there is also saw a dozen coatimundi which is also a first for me. Matthew wanted to shoot one but it would probably have taken me a few hours to retrieve one if he did because of their location and the rugged terrain. I convinced him that we were here for deer so let's concentrate on that. Anyway second from last day of his hunt getting late into the evening I think I about pushed him to the brink after dragging him up a mountainside he said "dad, I can't go any farther" I saw a rock pile a little higher up and wanted to glass the other side so I told him to wait there as I was going up for a few minutes for a looky doo. I go up to the rock formation and put up my 15 power swaro's on my tripod and instantly find javalina and right above them I find 4 deer one of which is a small spike. I looked back at Matthew and show him the antler sign...I could tell he got real excited and started coming toward me, I left my binos and everything there and ran back to meet him, helping him back to the rock formation, I showed him the little buck through the binos and he says dad I think I should shoot him. I agreed because of our lack of buck sightings and the fact the next day would only be a half day hunt due to thanksgiving. I ranged the deer and got 350 yds, got him set up with his rifle and was a bit hard but he finally located the buck, I kept telling him I want to make sure of which deer to shoot as there was a couple of doe and didn't want to shoot one of them, by the time he was finally ready to pull the trigger the little buck was now at 402 yds and I dialed the CDS on his scope and told him when he is ready and the buck was broadside let one fly. Just a few seconds go by and he says dad here goes.... At the shot I heard the bullet hit him and the buck humped up (little far back) and walked off by himself and laid down, still alive I told Matthew to send another, when he did I again heard the bullet smack the buck and down the hill he rolled. By the time it was so dark and the fact I left my headlamp back at the truck we had to leave him there overnight. Matthew was pretty upset and started to get misty eyed because I stupidly made the comment that I hoped no lions or bears get to it overnight. But I assured him everything will be allright. Next morning we went back and found the little buck right where we left him untouched by any animal, and I have one very happy little hunter. I'm very proud of him of what he had to endure with me as I know I pushed him pretty hard but made sure he had a good time doing it and didn't make him go too far and have a bad time. Also very impressed with his 400 yd shooting ability smacking that buck twice in a row. Oh and btw the second shot was a great heart shot. Here's the happy hunter. Matthew deserved this deer and more in my opinion and I have to say he was proud because how hard he fought to get this deer. Can't say enough how proud I am of him.

Hi flatlander, was wondering like everyone else if you would be so kind as to run some numbers for me, actually my son because my odds are probably zero. Lol He is a nonres with a CHAMP permit and currently 1 bp, also 10 yrs old if that matters. I put him in for 3103 3102 3101 All champs and then 3062 3064 Youth Thanks for doing this for everybody, I appreciate it. Oh yeah this is my first post but certainly not last as im a past arizona resident and still hunt there all the time. As a matter of fact last year my son got drawn for youth unit 33 any deer in November and busted his first coues (spike) deer at 400 with his .243, making me very proud of him.