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  1. So... I see most of you all are advanced members, kudos to you. What I am really interested in is becoming a "premier member" seems like their opinion matters more than the "advanced member". I was wondering do I have to pay to be a "premier member"? I saw someone say its like a one time membership fee of 69.99? Seems like a good deal.......... anyways anyone have actual answers, not looking for any bs


  2. both sides are right in their own respects, genetics has a huge influence, so does habitat and environmental conditions. Now to say g&f is responsible for creating trophy animals, that's also partially correct. they haven't issued an insane amount of tags for units, which would definitely hurt the trophy aspect, and they definitely haven't had super conservative amount of tags that would surely help with trophy animals produced.

     

    You need to look at what the g&f goals are, which are two: have the healthiest wildlife population possible to ensure hunting for future generations and have the most opportunities (tags=money) for success possible. G&F doesn't give 2 cents about managing for trophy animals. They manage for a healthy population that will continue to make them money. Trophy animals are a byproduct of having a healthy population.

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  3. Absolutely against using mechanical heads for elk..... but have been hearing a few good things about this BH. Has anyone used this for elk and if so what were the pro's, con's and would you use it again. Currently going to be using a slick trick but was curiosity is gaining for the hypodermic


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    What I am finding interesting is I haven't seen hardly anyone claim that they drew a tag of "whatever" in my back yard unit #27? Perhaps AGFD decided to eliminate hunting in that unit this year since the wolves are getting more than their fair share?

     

    Congratulations to all that were successful drawing this year. Unlike last year, that had about the worst horn quality I had seen due to the dry spring, its setting up for fantastic horn quality this year. Four successive days of rain in Alpine last week has made it the greenest I can remember for this time of year. Excellent timing for those rains with the horns now hitting the ground.

    I drew an 27 early bull archery with my dad. im headed out after easter to start scouting

     

    Try to take out some extra large coyotes on those scouting trips.

     

    SSS!!!


  5. What I am finding interesting is I haven't seen hardly anyone claim that they drew a tag of "whatever" in my back yard unit #27? Perhaps AGFD decided to eliminate hunting in that unit this year since the wolves are getting more than their fair share?

     

    Congratulations to all that were successful drawing this year. Unlike last year, that had about the worst horn quality I had seen due to the dry spring, its setting up for fantastic horn quality this year. Four successive days of rain in Alpine last week has made it the greenest I can remember for this time of year. Excellent timing for those rains with the horns now hitting the ground.

    I drew an 27 early bull archery with my dad. im headed out after easter to start scouting


  6. I dont know how many of you do this, but i have had resounding success with a certain method. When a yote gets hung up , however far out that may be, i always lip squeak, pretty much a high pitch kissing noise made by puckering your lips and sucking in a touch of air. 9 out of 10 times makes the predator come in on a line. Also a great way to let your partner know you have a yote coming in and to be still


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    Access to public and state lands is a problem in AZ and accross the west. This GF policy may not be the answer and I don't know what the answer would be. But my way of thinking is it is not fare that a member of the public not having access to a chunk of public or state trust land and yet a rancher leasing that land from the government and who is denying the public access to those same lands can graze his cattle and let only his family or friends access to hunt that public and state land. I'm not suggesting the rancher

    must allow hunting on his private land but he should have to allow access to those public and state trust lands he is leasing.

     

     

    Exactly... who would argue this point and why?

     

    Who would argue this point? Any and every private landowner who has an ounce of common sense, thats who. You ask why? Because the government should never tell you who can and cannot be on your private land, period.

     

    And to think if hunters were allowed access to public land through private, what makes you think they will not hunt, litter or camp on private? even if it is on accident? You open private to allow acces to public land you are essentially opening your private to hunting as well.

     

    I wouldnt expect you folks out there to understand this if you have never owned any amount of private land that is adjacent to hunting areas.

     

    Maybe work harder so you can own your own private or make good relationships with landowners to gain trust to hunt their land and maybe even (Oh My) learn to hike and not be road hunters

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  8. In the end who does this hurt most? Hunters.

    Who does it hurt second? AZGFD , why?

     

    Let's say theoretically majority of landowners don't profit from letting hunters or outfitters hunt their land ( which is more realistic than theoretical) and deny LEO access. AZGFD then in turn denies hunting in these areas. Tags in each unit is drastically reduced and AZGFD loses a ton of revenue generated each year.

     

    Landowners no longer have to worry about hunters on their land or trespass issues and G&F will now help them enforce what they wanted in the first place

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    I suggest if G&F want private landowners to allow access to public land, they should pay the private landowners more. I only say this because formerly being an employee of Arizona State Land Department I have seen what ASLD charges to allow access through right-of-ways, and in some cases its MILLIONS.

     

    I believe private landowners shouldn't be made to allow access soley for wildlife management , whether it's hunter or LEO access.

     

    If G&F wants to close public land that is landlocked, let them. Those areas will probably get hunted anyway since there is no fear of being caught (since LEO has no access).

     

    Seems like G&F is trying to strong arm ranchers, good luck , those are the most stubborn people you will meet.

    So a landowner should be able to block the public and government from thousands of acres public lands. I guess they are now...

     

    I disagree,

     

    Strong arm the ranchers for what? access to public land?

     

    If all that happens is that they close those portions locked by ranchers to hunting its a good thing.

     

    you know they could close all of the ranches to hunting too....

     

    Maybe the animals will get bigger, one might wander out of locked up and closed to hunting public land, wander through private land and I might get it.

     

    Unless its herded back by a helicopter.

     

    normal hunters if we get drawn are screwed


  10. I suggest if G&F want private landowners to allow access to public land, they should pay the private landowners more. I only say this because formerly being an employee of Arizona State Land Department I have seen what ASLD charges to allow access through right-of-ways, and in some cases its MILLIONS.

     

    I believe private landowners shouldn't be made to allow access soley for wildlife management , whether it's hunter or LEO access.

     

    If G&F wants to close public land that is landlocked, let them. Those areas will probably get hunted anyway since there is no fear of being caught (since LEO has no access).

     

    Seems like G&F is trying to strong arm ranchers, good luck , those are the most stubborn people you will meet.


  11. To the person who said that meat at the store is a different color because of the " unnatural nasty stuff added to the animals diet" is not only an opinion, but a very uneducated one.

     

    Do your research, read the hundreds of studies done, and you can't find one that shows organic, all natural, grass fed hormone free beef (this also goes for organic anything, fruits vegetables etc ) is more healthy than conventionally raised beef.

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