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Even a private party would have to have a gnf license an permit. I understand that but they are friends or family he knows and are paying HUGE $$$ to hunt his property. He gut shot these elk in PV because they were competeing with his cattle for graze. I was told he hated the elk and thats why he did it. He was quoted saying that G&F did nothing to help him and his cattle were going hungry. Those elk were there LONG before he leased that land I say.

Anyone that disrespects the law and all legal hunters by doing this is should always have the book thrown at them. I totally agree with Joe Hunter. It sets a presedence that anyone can try to do this and get a small fine or even get off without having to pay the piper. I remember the story of the A*%$ hole that lived in Prescott Valley who had been gut shooting elk so they would die off his property. He was caught and I don't rmember what his punishment was but I know it wasn't enough. This guy now owns a huge amount of acres in unit 10 that is extremly prime property with a herd of elk second to none. How do I know? I have seen the herd and talked to a guide that knows about him. He hates Game & Fish and will not let anyone hunt there except private parties. If you are a hunter he will prosecute you if you step a foot on his property because he knows you have a G&F license. I was told this by my friend who is the guide who lives in Williams. What does this show us about how these lawbreakers are handled? That you can break the law and still come out smelling like roses. G&F needs to set a presedence of their own and make it so bad that people won't try this again. It's just like the death penalty in our country. If you are sentenced to die then do it. Don't make everyone else pay for your mistake for years. We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It's time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for their actions. Ronald Reagan

Thank you ringer. I will do that.

Hello all my friends and fellow hunters and fisherman. I'm not sure if this is the proper place to put this. Let me know if I am out of line. My name is Dan and I have the honor of hosting again the 20th annual "Valle Luna Mexican Resturant / Q Bar & Grill" fishing tournament at Lake Pleasant on Sat. April 18th at Firemans Cove. This is one of the best times anyone can have. Hospice of the Valley, or HOTV is a 501 C not for profit oranization and they help thousands of families and friends going through the impending death of a loved one or friend. They are without a doubt one of the greatest charities I have ever been invovled with. I really don't know anyone that HOTV hasn't helped or that you may know someone that has needed their help. What I am asking for is, Anyone that would be kind enough to donate the following for a HUGE raffle & live auction would be greatly appreciated: Hunting or fishing equpiment, Gift cards (resturants, automotive, ..etc) Services of all kinds, Cash of course, anything that would be a great raffle prize, or you can be a sponsor with a donation in cash ($100 for T-Shirt or $200 for Dock sponsor. We will put your company banner up on the dock for advertisment or if there is still room, your company logo on the back of the fishing tournament T-Shirt. All of the donations are tax deductable and I have the tax ID number for you. The donated items will be in a raffle and live auction and all the monies will be given to HOTV. Also anyone that would like to enter the tournament is more than welcome. I have all the details and info for you as far as cost, weigh in specs and number of fish you're allowed. We also have a trophy for Biggest Stringer along with cash, and a trophy along with cash for Biggest Fish weighed in. Entrants will get fed after tournament, raffle tickets, T-Shirt, Food ticket with their entry. Anoyone not in the tournament can purchase a food ticket as well as raffle tickets for one of the BIGGEST raffles you will see. We also have an on shore golf putting contest with 50% of the winnings going to HOTV and 50% going to winner. When the sun goes down a live band for all your dancing needs. This has become one of the best tournaments to go to. Please consider that someday or someone you know may need HOTV. Thanks in advance for your time donations. This is a great web site I am proud to be associated with. Sincerely, Dan PS: You can PM me for all info or to enter or donate. I can give you a phone number then as well. Also as a sponsor or donater I announce EVERYONE during the raffle and auction that has helped with this charity.

Pulling his license for a long time is NOT what this man needs. BANNED for life from hunting, confiscating ALL of his hunting items, thousands of dollars in fines, and a lot of jail time. I am an Arizona native with only 1 Ant. tag in my 30 years of trying. These are the people that keep tag numbers down and people like me waiting for years for a legal chance to havest a buck. THROW THE BOOK AT EM"

I shot this deer in 1991 after months of scouting high desert areas. Put him and 4 other bucks to bed the day before opening season. 7:30 the next morning he was hanging in camp. The reason I posted this is not the fact that the photo is vintage, but the fact that when we were checked in camp by G&F officers Dan Diamond and at the time rookie Mark T. Quigley, They looked at him and commented on the weird antler growth out of the bases. Dan asked me if he had both or any testicles on him as he said that may have caused the extra horns. Well, he had them both and I believe from hunting the same area for years he had passed his genes on as I have seen bucks there with antler growth like this one. They estimated him at about 13 years old. WOW! To me that was a vintage deer. If you look at his left ear it's kinda chewed up. They said probably from a mountain lion attack he survived. Also the left main beam was broken off. I was told he was 160+ buck with the broken left beam. Thanks for looking.

I don't understand. Are you saying that you were on the application with the original poster, and that you guys didn't get the tag he thought you got. Or, are you talking about your own situation, separate and apart from his? To the response above about drawing the 23 Dec. tag with only 2 points, yes that is possible and happens all the time for residents, but a non-resident can only draw quality deer hunts by picking up one of the first half of the bonus tags offered in the bonus pass...which in this case meant having 11 bonus points. Yes. I was on the app. with the original poster who put down the wrong hunt number. Hew thought he put us in for 21 Dec W/T. We drew the oct. W/T

After looking at this for a while and doing sone research i have come to the conclusion that it's a......DEAD SPIDER lark

Agree with dustin25. I have the same gun and it's been put thru the ringer. Still looks and shoots great. Older Wingmasters are the best all around shotgun I have ever used.

I say we find em' Gut em out. Have them mounted and hang them in some ANTI's house when they are not home. lark. Really ticks me off to hear this stuff. I just can't handle a thief. Sorry about your friend being violated.

My friends son Zach who I helped raise from when he was 3 years old, now 35, Put me, his dad and himself in for deer this year unknown to me. He got my info from talking to his father. He made a mistake he said after we found our we were drawn for deer. He said he put us in for 21 Dec WT hunt. Well, we drew the Oct 23 WT hunt. From what I see on these posts, this must be a good area but I have not spent much time there. I was a true unit 21 hunter with 13 bucks taken out of it over 30 years. Anyone with a little honey hole info would be greatly appreciated. I would love to see this young man get a nice deer. He has grown up to be a wonderful father and dedicated hunter. Thanks to all the great people that use this wonderful website.

ELOY! It's a drive but if you talk to some of the ranchers or farmers there and they give you permission you limit out in about 20 minutes. One farm down there is called MountainView farms. They grow cotton. One of the best areas I have ever hunted.

I posted a comment a few months back about my rancher friend who was attacked by wolves released down north of Safford. I saw pictures of the so called wolves released and I guarantee you without a doubt they are not purebred. They are dog cross and they need to be killed. They were hand fed by the wolf experts for quite some time to try to get them adjusted to their surroundings. WELL..it didn't work. All they did was kill cattle and Dean was told before they could do anything he would have to prove it was a wolf kill and not bear or lion as there were multiple track around the kills. My friend, Dean Warren of the four drag ranch lost numerous cattle from theses pests. He was told many times that he couldn't shoot them if he saw it happening. Finally they changed the law but by this time his ranch had been sold and he never was compensated for them as far as I know. I even had 1 of the so called WOLF recovery ladies admit at our campfire one night while she was trying to catch them, that they were mixed breeds and were raised in the Minnesota zoo before being released here. Good luck to the ranchers in Prescott if they release them. I dang sure will help control the population if they need it.

Drew a 2014 Unit 23 tag for Coues in October. Never really spent much time in this unit. Any successful hunters that have info on a place to check out there would be greatly appreciated. Not looking for your secret hiding places. Just an idea of where to maybe go to scout. Thanks for the help.

I have a 2000 GMC 1500 Sierra Z71 4x4 for sale. Best truck I have ever owned. Finances force this sale. My mechanic says it needs a new valve body in the trans. and would cost about $700 to do. Unemployed and can't afford it now. I could use a good job and maybe be able to keep it. I have pics if anyone wants to see them. Everything else works great. Heated leather seats. Power everything including seats. BFG's all around with 2 spares. It has a couple dings in the bed and a crack in the front window. This has been a great truck and hate to sell it. 227000 miles and the engine is still strong as ever. e-mail, text or call for info and pics. Asking $2850 Reduced koda1234@centurylink.net 602-471-5292

Ever heard of "Honeymoon Campground" The 4 drag is 1/2 mile west of that. You go thru Safford and then back up the main road that goes to Hanegans Meadow only you dont go that far. You take a road off to the west and follow it for approx30 miles I guess. I never went that way but once coming from the valley. I always went across the rez just out of Globe-Miami.

Don't know if anyone remembers reading or hearing about this, but I was working the 4 drag ranch down by Safford. I worked for Dean Warren. He was the cowboy who was attacked by 4 wolves. He was working his cattle when a 2 yr old female, 2 yearling pups and a 3 year old male wolf attacked him and his dogs. I wasn't with him that day but hooked up with him 3 days later. He said he fought them off for 3 miles until he got to his line shack and was able to back his horse and dogs into the coral corner. Finally they left. He had been on his radio to the forest service as he was the honorary sheriff at the time in that area. He was told when they were to release the wolves that it would be 1-2 years before anyone ever saw or had contact with them. 2 weeks after their release his neighbor had pics of 1 running thru his pasture. Dean left 1 of the dogs during the fight hoping they would kill and eat that one and leave him and the rest alone. Well, the dog he left made it back to the ranch in bad shape but lived. At line shack that night he showed me some pics of the attack as he had a disposable camera in his saddle bags. As i was looking at them in came the "Wolf Recovery Girl", a forest service officer on their mules. She had placed traps to catch them. I looked at the pics and there was no doubt in my mind that these were not pure bred Mexican Grey wolves and Dean agreed with me. She confessed that they weren't. They were mixed with dog, raised in a zoo in Minnesota and had been hand fed since their release as they were not making kills on their own. (except Dean's and other ranchers cattle) He had fired his 40 long colt in the air, on the ground around them with no results. This is not how the story was supposed to go as far as the wolf experts claimed. They were protected then and Dean was not allowed to shoot them. That has changed since but still makes me mad as I could have lost a very dear friend of mine due to ignorance on some other peoples part. This is NOT a fairytail as I was there and saw the results of what the animals can do to a ranchers operation. If they release them then start selling tags. Or beware of the repercussions you will cause.

Great pics. What I like if you look at the camp pic you can see the metal ice chest and water jug and that tent..wow..NOW that's vintage

Do you have any info on the name or manufacturer of the product? That would be great.

As we get older I guess some of us need glasses to read the paper, books or just about anything. I have found that when I have taken my rifles or bow out to sight them in or just practice, I find it harder to focus on the target. If I don't use reading glasses I can't see the crosshairs but I see the target. (farsighted I guess) If I use them I see the crosshairs but the target is somewhat blurry. I have tried to adjust the back focus on the gun which helped a little but I really have to physically push my self to see the whole picture. I shoot with a very good scope, Nikon Monarch. This is quite disheartening as I don't want to miss or wound a good animal or paper punch a group and wonder is it me or the gun. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I see a lot of you in your pictures wearing glasses so there must be a remedy. Thanks all.

I guess all you need is a bird feeder and some wrought iron fixtures. OUCH!!!!

I've seen yours 5guys...it's not a ROLEX...................... It's a Rolodex HAHAHA Sorry..had too

Why's that..Are squirrels protected there?

Wow..Don't know if I could do contacts. I have a real aversion to having something in my eyes. Never tried them but I guess it's worth a shot..or miss lol

I will try these suggestions,,lasik may have to wait,,I guess thats the price we pay for getting older. Thanks all for sharing.