Zeke-BE

Funny!!! The exact opposite for me

Well its been many weeks since I shot my rifle last in January. Im still in load development but with javelina hunt, sickness, bad weather, and crazy work I still haven't finish a load yet. ELD-x bullets really don't like to group for me on this rifle. Only if its right at 3000 fps can I get 1/2" groupings. I switched it to Bergers 140 HVLD on H-1000 but at full capacity of powder I would hit 3,200 fps. Tried a side option 3 shot grouping from that powder and got 1" MOA at 3200 fps but still looking for that 1/2 if I can. Went out today and fought off 2 rattlesnakes and did a ladder test on a different powder H4831 OAL 2.666 140 grain berger Hybrid From 320 yards My first 3 shots were 0.828" at 320 yards, thats 0.258" MOA ---Wow!!! Looking good so far for just a ladder test 1-58 grain shot 3038 fps 2-58.5 grain 3138 3- 59 grain 3158 Then it jumped up as you can see on the picture to a new grouping, ending up being 2.195" or 0.685" MOA for the second group. It would of been nice to see it closer to the first group. 4th 59.5 grain shot 3187 fps 5- 60 grain 3236 6-60.5 grain 3224 pressure slightly creator on primer but nothing to much to worry about just yet 7-61 grain 3265 (i could smell it right away that I blew a primer) Sticky bolt and primer pop out. Usually I can see the primer creator noticeable and I would stop but there was a big difference between 60.5 and 61 grains. But over all this is some of the best groupings I've seen with those velocity's. So Im going to work on shot # 2, 3 and 5 and see what I can get. I really wanted to be shooting those ELD's but Berger Hybrids are shooting nice with this H4831. And for those who are saying don't worry about the velocity just pick the best groupings. Well this rifle was a .270 and I had it at 3,000 fps at .80" MOA. There is no point to have a 6.5-270 AI 26" barrel shooting at the same speed then a standard tikka 22" barrel .270. The goal is to get a close 1/2 grouping cruising at 3150-3200 fps

What is "inexpensive" to Lance?? We all know you are a top tier guy 2500-4000 dollar scope range, inexpensive scope to me is a 150 dollar to 400 scope does that sound right? Or is that a 700-1000 dollar range? Maybe look into the Athlon ARES BTR 4.5-27x50 FFP 600 dollars or the 400 dollars Midas 4.5-27x50 SFP

I was 100% on board to plan to hunt antelope in Wyoming for 2017, but I heard from another hunter that they are having a 90% fawn death rate because winter is lot harsher this year. I think that is the right wordage. But I did find a link in January that Game and Fish announce that there will be more antelope and deer death this winter. They stated more snow and colder weather this year. Any body else hear anything about this. I don't want to blow my preference point on a bad year

Problem with eastern Wyoming is all the private land and checkered board. I notice your from Worland. Been through there a few times. Welcome to the site

I was quite pissed off at myself for the first 4 rounds. I thought I had a good shooting lane picked out at 600, and dialed for elevation, held for a 2.2mph L-R wind and allowed for a bit of spin drift. First shot was about 2' high and 2' right......WTF? Second shot was low and left....WTF????? Third shot was low and 3' right.....WTFFF?????? I now this is strange to you Lance but this is how the rest of us feels when we shoot long range :)

Wow just wow

Think about it.....HOW would it be possible for the camera to remain upright in a bullet traveling 50-100k revolutions per second?And think about this...20 cartridges for $100???? A camera on each bullet?? Come on guys... I saw this a mile away. Very true it had me at first. But I wouldn't be surprise if they did that. They do have artillery that have GPS in the round. (Future weapons TV Show) They shot it 5 miles off course and the fins act like a plane or rocket and brought it back off course and hit the target. They said their biggest design struggle was to create the software that can handle the extreme G Force once it was first fired

Agreed!!! I think it's great though. More choices, more rifles, more shooting, more fun. I remember when the creedmoor came out. For the first 3 years I wanted one bad. Everyone on shooting forums was saying it will disappear it's only a fab. Hornady did a great job in promoting it. I think they are in the belief it can happen again. It's funny the 6 mm Remington and Win 243 came out he same time or close to it. The Remington will beat it with velocity by 150-200 fps. But Winchester did a better job promoting it and Remington stop making it because of lack of sales. This will be fun to see happen if someone can get their hands on it

Good Luck! Welcome to real hunting!!!

I was planning on Central to some of those units west of Casper. Should that be ok? I wasn't going to be putting in for the prime Units like 60 and 61 but it sounds like those got hammered?

I saw it this morning. Didnt realize it was April fools today. If they keep taking about it afterwards I guess its real

West Fork might never open. There are talks but not sure. You can hike in there but no vehicles The valley in there and camps didnt get touch. But the surrounding areas burned bad. Very depressing coming from Big Lake down to West Fork. (been camping there since I was 6 months old according to my parents) With all rain it floods into some areas in the First crossing. If you remember where the Camp Host camped at that whole area is under boulders and rocks. But the rest of the camps are perfect. Still kind of neat going through there and seeing peoples stacks of fire wood still there since the fire

I have the 8 power Cronus binos and the 4.5-29x56 Cronus scope. They are wonderful

Im having a hard time with mt 143s as well

One of Wyoming Educational youtube vids on the site for 2017 stated fawns, old deer, and weak deer and maybe some mature deer would be the victims this season

Thats good to know. Wish 2 hunt thats what I thought. If your going to hunt it, it be better to do it know before you feel the long term affects

Once you get his number log it in your phone! Adam is helping everyone his box is often full

77 grains of H1000 Im thinking 2800 fps right.

We now live in a day in age that kids don't commit to things. Its very common for children to want to play a sport and through mid season they are burnt out on it and want to quit. If he was committed at first they need to follow through when its over. Every sport i played mid season I was done mentally. Next year I was doing it again because of the love of the sport. On such a big hunt Im the type of person that says you are going! Everything else Ill go at their speed of desire, but if they commit Im making sure as a parent Im doing my job!!!!

I think in the 90s there was a bull elk on the news that got stuck in the canal. They had to saw the antlers off for travel safety while they took him back up north

Budget? How often will your wife shoot it? If its just the wife's and she shoots it 20 rounds a year before the hunt and not reaching out past 350 yards a standard 250-500 dollar range scope will work. If she shoots 4-5 times a year roughly 60-150 rounds a year maybe look into a Sightron, vortex pst or something in that 800-1000 dollar range.

So what can we do right now?

Early rifle bull in unit !?????????!!! Country thunder can wait, might take you another 10 years to get that tag again

Maybe Ill try some 200 ELDx.