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Ranching uses are specifically protected under the Federal Land Policy Management Act, which govern the use of the national forests. Don't forget that the forest service is a branch of the USDA. Hunting and fishing are not specifically protected uses on national forest lands. They almost were, but the Sportsmans bill got shot down a few months ago because Ted Cruz and some of the other congressional extremists got greedy and tried to amend the heck out of it to satisfy their political agendas. Also, from what I recall from my training on federal land use, it's perfectly legal for the service or BLM to allow the continued use of grazing rights in areas that have since been designated wilderness (which, practically speaking, is all wilderness area because grazing was going on pretty much everywhere long before anyone even thought of designating wilderness). Thanks for the info. We should start a petition to gain equal access rights.

It states multi unit area. But it applies in general to the special treatment USFS gives to the ranch industry. A little off subject yes.

A lot of rancher abuse the system and the forest service lets them. Not g&f but I can show you many examples of ranchers bulldozing roads onto national forest that border their land and then having the NFS close all trails that go into that area only allowing the ranchers access. They cut down live oaks and build ponds all over the multi units. But get caught back there on foot and it's almost a gunfight.

Oh by MY I mean I pay taxes= national forest funding..not trying to claim anything per say.

I wish they would pass a law that any domestic animals found in wilderness areas are to be considered feral. Ranchers get away with to much and $5 dollars a head per month to destroy MY forest is not worth it.

Why don't they transplant them there was more of what I was thinking..

Oh.. I made a mistake, I will start a new thread in the Bourbon drinkers section lol!

Sounds like a good spot to show up and show off our trophies in the parking lot. Maby tailgate some wild game wearing a deer skin loincloth...

I hunt alone, but when I do hunt with others it's only my family members. I learned a long time ago that showing the wrong person an area can ruin it after they tell a friend who tells 3 friends who....

Were can we find said stories about g&f officers committing offenses? Just curious..

Thanks everyone. I don't require to much advice I'm to hardheaded lol.everytime I want to know something I load the pack and put my own boots to the ground. I have found that to be the best way to learn..do it yourself.

There are a fair amount of elk in this hunt area. But it is also a lot of country for them to hide. The biggest herd I have seen in the area was 6, most of the time it is either a lone bull or a cow with her calf. If you find track stick to the area even if it is only one or 2 sets. Good luck my brothers and I filled 4 out of the last 5 tags we have had on this hunt.

It's always a good idea to have a copy of the regs in your vehicle when out hunting.