Red Sparky

My take on it is this for those that will listen. I eat 100% free range, non-growth hormone, non-antibiotic meat that has a chance to get away. Might have gotten this to you too late but work has been about 80 hours this week.

Thoughts and prayers sent to you and your family.

buffhunter--I don't think archery is ranch assigned so I would see if there are landowners that would let you on. I see lots of antelope out on the San Augustine Plains, N. of US 60 is unit 13. I have seen them in downtown Datil and just west of Magdelena right when you are getting on the plains. Let me get ahold of my cousin that lives out there and get some more info. for you.

I got the archery carp tag in 23 and my third choice elk. Wonder how that happened as I put 23 archery in as my first elk choice so I could chase elk and deer at the same time. I bet I was low on the list and all the tags were taken by second and third choices. Will wait and see what the draw report tells me. Well time to go start scouting the San Mateo Mountains, at least it is a closer drive to my house.

I would just make sure I have some jerky.

Bugling and cow calls are becoming overused. I love it when I hunt the first two weeks of Sept. and you have hunters blowing like it is full on rut. The elk that were starting to talk shut up. Read as much as you can, talk to other hunters to learn as much as you can. Read as much as you can about elk biology so you can find the elk. Then observe and try to use what you have learned to help you while hunting. Every year I learn at least one new thing the elk teach me.

That area code is definitely NM. Cell phone from T-Mobile out of Lovington, NM. EDIT: I guess being that close to TX everything is bigger down there.

creed-I responded several time on there but I don't go by Red Sparky.

It is all guess and speculation. When I checked on my applications to review it deer was still in the 123 order the way I put it in. I have never gotten anything but my first choice on deer and they always review 123. My elk app was in a 312 order, same as when I got my third choice two years ago. Last year when I got my first choice elk it was in the 123 order I put it in. I put my daughter in for all rifle hunts in the Gila, not expecting her to draw, and her order was 321. I think that is the killer you don't want to see. The thing I have heard is now all apps are in the 123 order so G&F may have shut down the review way to see it. So I am not sure if this works or not but I will tell you in two days if my guess was correct. If it was I missed two standard hunts and drew a Q/HD hunt as my third choice. Go figure!

Bob- If what I have found out to be true is correct I will only have a carp deer tag in 23 this year. Not many elk but I loved elk and deer hunting at the same time with my bow. Now it looks like I get to hunt the San Mateo's in unit 17 for elk this year. Another unit I will have to learn but it is only about 1- 1 1/2 hours to it from my house. The thing that bugs me is I put in for 23 1st and 2nd choice to elk and deer hunt at the same time but I drew my 3rd elk choice which had much lower odds to draw. The reason I put in for the carp is that is all I saw last year in 23 where I was, at about 40 yards for 20 minutes on multiple occasions.

Well here is my experience. Three years ago I drew a unit here in NM as my third elk choice. It was a unit I had never set foot in. First thing I did was pull up Google Earth. Second thing I did was buy topo maps of the unit where I wanted to hunt. Third thing I did was go to the unit and put boots on the ground. I never went on the net and asked.....Drew this elk tag and never set foot in the unit, where do I start. Then the hunt started. Plan A had way too many hunters too few elk so I went to plan B. Ran into a really helpful guy. We were both sitting a waterhole and he was going to AZ to hunt in about 3-4 days so I would have about 6 days after he left to myself. Not much pressure in the unit at that time. I told him he could have the waterhole as long as he was there so we wouldn't be fighting over it. He told me of a park 1/2 mile from camp to look into for elk. Was in elk the last two years. In a week will have the "official results" to hopefully be able to say 3 years in a row hunting that unit. Told somebody on here gps directions for deer in there through PM and had an awesome experience. Figured we saw eye to eye on that and I was right. He was looking at scouting with somebody else that posted here for help and contacted me first and asked how I would feel about the two of them hunting the spots I gave him. Hopefully one day we can hunt together or maybe just camp out. The reason I did it was I got to read numerous post and get a feel for personality. How can you do that with somebody that has 1 post?

Well thanks to one person in this post I found out where the ignore button is.

The time I have seen it was on deer that were um.......only had one part of a two part set.

Wussies using tranquilizers! Get a catch pole! That cat is not the size of a German Shepherd, maybe when mine was about 8 months old, she was that big. I have had 120 lb. Rottweilers and 100 lb. German Shepherds on catch poles. Hang on for the ride!

I wish I was out in the woods but I will settle for this from my front porch last night.

I think he might have been sighted. Read the post in the elk forum under elkalope: Anyone ever seen elk with a pure white rump? Was up in rim country this weekend and driving out saw something with a pure white rump (no it wasn't a whitetail deer - way too big and no flag) running through some thick ponderosa pines. Didn't get a real good look at it, but it looked like a cow elk to me size and shape of rump. My buddy thought it was a antelope, but I've never seen antelope in that area before so far south. I joked it was an elkalope.

That was the big white girl who had the call of nature and you startled her. Glad there was no red flag.

Vacation? That is what sick leave is for. Know a good Dr. to write you the excuse.

Or spinach. Always happens to me wonder what it did to poor Popeye.

I use to hunt there muzzleloader every year with my uncle and cousin. Killed many mule deer there. Saw a few coues does but not many where I hunted. Now that I am into archery I put in for deer in the same unit I put in for elk so hopefully I can hunt both at the same time.

Never really hunted turkey until my daughter wanted to start when she passed hunters ed five years ago. I am a NM native and always thought it was illegal to shoot turkeys on the roost here. I am not 100% on that though. I do remember when we use to buy deer, bear, and fall turkey on one license for $10.50. That would have been late 70's and early 80's and roosted birds were illegal back then. I am talking about NM here and not AZ. I was responding to IA Born's post, #12, on the first line in the yellow.

Yep. We often talk about this in Hunter Ed classes with kids. Some states have "...30 minutes before sunrise...30 minutes after sunset..." but Arizona's shooting hours law is more gray, just like it states above. I always print out a NOAA sunrise/sunset table for the area I'm hunting and then plan for about 30 minutes either side of what's listed for when shooting light starts/ends. That's usually a good approximation, but there's usually a few minutes either side of 30 minutes. the GnF could simplify it all by making a law like many other states where it is illegal to shoot a roosted bird. I agree wholeheartedly! I really wish AZ and NM would make that illegal (unless NM already/finally has and I missed it). A few years ago in NM, I know of a hunter in a group (from AZ) who walked in and shot a roosted bird at first shooting light. He walked right past some other hunters' set up and shot the bird right out of the tree as soon as he could see it clearly. I've seen plenty of birds still on roost at first shooting light and I know people that have shot them off their roost as soon as they could see a good beard. It is illegal to shoot a turkey on the roost. Here is the state law, section J, but I could not find it in the rules. 9.31.16.10 TURKEY MANNER AND METHOD REQUIREMENTS AND RESTRICTIONS: A. Season and hours: Turkey may be hunted or taken only during open seasons and only during the period from one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset. B. Bag limit: It shall be unlawful for any person to hunt for or take more than the number and type of turkey during the current license year as specified by the hunt code printed on the permit or license unless otherwise provided by regulation. C. Seizure: Any conservation officer or other officer authorized to enforce game laws and regulations shall seize the carcasses of turkey(s) that are improperly notched. D. Proof of sex: It shall be unlawful for anyone to transport or possess the carcass of a turkey without proof of sex. When the required bag limit is a bearded turkey, the beard and a small patch of feathers surrounding the beard shall remain with the same turkey carcass until arriving at a residence, taxidermist, meat processing place, or place of final storage. E. Use of dogs in hunting: It shall be unlawful to use dogs to hunt turkey. F. Use of baits: It shall be unlawful for anyone to take or attempt to take any turkey by baiting. G. Live animals: It shall be unlawful to use live animals as a blind or decoy in taking or attempting to take any turkey. H. Use of calling devices: It shall be unlawful to use any electrically or mechanically recorded calling device in taking or attempting to take any turkey. I. Killing out-of-season: It shall be unlawful to kill any turkey out of turkey hunting season. J. Roost shooting: It shall be unlawful to shoot a turkey while it is located in a tree or structure used for resting. K. Legal weapon types for turkey are as follows: shotguns firing shot, including muzzle-loading shotguns; bows and arrows; and crossbows and bolts. L. Non-toxic shot use is required on all state game commission owned lands. M. Areas closed to hunting turkey: The following areas shall remain closed to hunting turkey, except as permitted by regulation: Sugarite canyon state park; Orilla Verde and Wild Rivers recreation areas, including the Taos valley overlook; all wildlife management areas except Humphries, Rio Chama, and Sargent WMAs; the Valle Vidal area; and Rattlesnake canyon in sub-unit 2A. [19.31.16.10 NMAC - Rp, 19.31.16.10 NMAC, 4-1-15]

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