40-year-AZ-hunter

My wife drew an early rifle elk tag after 15 years. Now we need to get her shooting a rifle larger than her trusty .243. I'm thinking of installing a muzzle brake on one of our rifles to cut the recoil for her. Even tho i've shot many rifles over 50 years, I've never owned or shot a rifle with a brake. Can any of you tell me the difference between the ones I see that look like they are added to the end of the barrel versus the ones I see that look like holes in the original barrel? Pros and cons? What is the rough cost of having one installed and do any of you have suggestions about gunsmiths that do it? Any info will be greatly appreciated! Bruce

Thanks guys for all the input! I guess I have some more studying to do. Noise versus kick is surely a consideration. I've long been aware that recoil is generally not felt when hunting, but sighting in some guns can sure be torture.

Depends a lot on how original it is and condition. $500 and up.

All M70s were factory drilled and tapped. 300 H&H improved is very similar to the .300 Weatherby without the radius-ed shoulders. Quite f few of the old 300 H&Hs were re-chambered for .300 Weatherby. While it hurts the value to a collector, it is a much better round for the shooter.

Sent you a PM.

Have for sale a very nice Remington 788 in .222 Remington. Bluing is near perfect. Stock very nicely refinished. Has Redfield type base and rings, and site holes with filler screws. Unknown round count, but bore looks perfect. Sorry, I can't figure out how to post pics, but can send via text or email. Listing for my best friend in Phoenix. Thanks for looking. My number is 602-633-5208.

Updated with Pics (I hope).

I was under the impression that you didn't need to ship From one but the gun needed to be received by an FFL. I believe you only need an FFL involved if it crosses state lines, but I'd double check before shipping.

Interesting thread. Lots of commitments that aren't don't pan out. More like Backpage than CWT.

Nice talking to you Tom and THANKS. I sent you a PM also. Bruce

Somebody with an 11M archery elk tag should come kill one of these pests . One raghorn bull, one 2-pt and lots of cows and calves.

Neighbor kid, about 11, with an 11M permit shot one of these calves this AM.

I see a few bricks on Backpage for $40/500 today. Maybe, hopefully, this shortage will break and the gougers will have to put Mayonnaise on all their stash and eat it! Sort of like all the crazies that got caught with tulip bulbs in Holland in the 1600s tulip mania.

Walmart in Flagstaff has a few 50 and 100 rnd boxes. Limit one.

Nice! Glad you figured out a solution. Hope your scope has the required adjustment. Please let us know how it works out.

Yeah, lever actions like the 88, semi-autos, etc make the old school method just about impossible. Considering the joke about the 26 yard dowel rod, I suppose a guy could use a long piece of string stretched out, but it's hardly worth it with the devices available these days. On a more serious note, I hope your new scope has enough adjustment to bring it on target. A foot low at 10 yards is 10 ft low at 100 yards. Most scopes probably dont have that much adjustment. In the old days we would have to shim a mount to get such a setup on target.

Yep, as area33 said, assuming you are using a rifle that you can look down the bore from action to crown, just point it at something about 25 yards away (it's not critical) and adjust the scope until the reticle and the center of the bore line up. It's been done that way since way before folks started selling tools to do it. Shoot it once at about 25 yards and you likely will be within a few inches, adjust the zero and move back to your desired range. Good luck. PS, you dont need a vise. Just a steady rest while you are looking down the bore and thru the scope. Try it at home tonight over the hood of your truck and looking at a light across the street or some such.

Thanks Nick. It's been a while since I've seen you. Hope you are well and the tag fairies have teen good to you!. That pic was taken last night from the back yard. That herd spends its days up on the hill behind the house and evenings/nights down in the valley. The bulls are just starting to get interested. The raghorn would chase the little 2-point away as soon as he got within 150 ft of the cows. Bruce

From the pic on Backpage, that looks like one of the post-64 Winchester M70s that they made for third parties. If so, its a solid rifle, tho cant compare to the earlier or later M70s. A good buy.

I have a safe queen Ruger M77 in 7mm Remington Mag. It's one of the classic tang-safety models with walnut stock. The bluing is perfect and no scratches in the stock. I'm not the original owner, but from the looks of the gun it has not had a box of shells thru it. Serial number puts it at 1980. I'd like $500 for it. I've not advertised it and am not anxious to sell it so please be kind. I really doubt there are many nicer Ruger 77s around. I'm in Flagstaff.

Regular adult size. Thanks.

Anybody got a cheap single shot .22 they want to part with? Preferably in Flagstaff or the Valley? Alternatively a cheap clip fed bolt action? Thanks, Bruce 602-633-5208

I dont think he said he sold them. He merely pointed out the recent sale at auction on a national venue. Listed as new in Reno, NV and sold for $1200.50 with 6 bids. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-Ultravid-HD-10x42-Binoculars-/281392160457?pt=Binocular&hash=item4184479ec9&nma=true&si=dcGCkYVHFcZnxUKFwuV%252FTDt7AqE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Lots of them on eBay for hundreds more, but they don't seem to be selling. For instance, here is a pair with a starting price of $1600 that has no bids so far after 5 days. Perhaps it will get bids at the end. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-Ultravid-10-x-42-HD-Binoculars/301256022091?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D24142%26meid%3D8695199188675036254%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D10240%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D281392160457 Good luck with yours.

257 Roberts is easy to neck down to 6mm Remington and of course .244 Remington is the same thing as 6mm Remington.

This is the first thing I thought of when I read this proposal. I have no problem with a tag surrender policy, as long as it is available to everyone, and any surrendered tags went to the next guy in line ONLY. Allowing someone to turn it over to a so called "nonprofit" org, while retaining their points, is outrageous, and should be TOTALLY out of the question. All points should be lost. Anything less would be a way for corruption to work it's way in. Such a policy would grossly cheapen everyone else's points, and cheat those next in line. Hunt of a lifetime? Really guys, there lots of worthy organizations who deserve surrendered tags and already get them. . No doubt. Some of us would like to make sure it stays that way. Some of us remember HB2072 that would have allocated a bunch of premium tags to AZSFW ( never mentioned by name in the bill but the only 501C3 that met the criteria outlined therein) to be sold at their discretion. By the way, some other folks thought that bill allocated tags to a "worthy organization", just a difference of opinion about what constitutes "worthy". By the way, as I remember HOAL opposed HB2072! Some of us would just like to see this tightly controlled to prevent big money interests from getting another leg up on the masses. Some of us worry about abuse of any government system by folks who learn to play the system.